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2015 Schedule

I taste throw up in my mouth every single time I see/hear Norfolk St on our schedule next year.
 
Originally posted by FlyHawk98:
I taste throw up in my mouth every single time I see/hear Norfolk St on our schedule next year.
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Yea, after last seasons, we've got to seriously minimize our FCS games. Now's the time for us to step up our OOC scheduling. For several years, I've always said we needed to start rebuilding with an OOC that looks like this:

Ohio1 mid-low level, regional P5 program1 historical G5 rivalry (think Miami OH, ECU, UCF, etc.)1 high level G5 game (Boise State, Cincinnati, Northern Illinois, Arkansas State, etc.)
Now that we've taken that proverbial step forward, we need to move on to another tier of competition such as:
Ohio2 mid-low level, regional P5 programs1 high level G5 game (I think ECU/UCF falls into this category, as well, and would be the best choice if available)
So far, we've actually laid the foundation for this type of improvement in OOC. 2016 is shaping up to be a perfect OOC schedule for us with Akron, Louisville, @ Pitt, and 1 more game TBD. I think if we can get a home-and-home set up with UCF (who still needs a home game that season) starting that season, that would be perfect. Pitt may have taken a good step forward by then with Narduzzi at the helm, but Pitt will always be a realistic potential win. Now that Louisville has moved to the ACC, that'll be a tougher game than it was when we beat them, but it's still do-able.
 
I basically like your approach Red, but I also want to note . . . I don't think it would hurt us to schedule top tier P5 opponents either.

In the BCS era, it worked better to schedule respectable, mid level P5 teams that we had a reasonable shot at beating, because if we hoped to get a BCS bid, the system rewarded being undefeated more.

Now it's a little different. What used to be a "suicide" game for us against a top 10 team wouldn't necessarily hurt us as much now, with the emphasis on strength of schedule. See Boise's loss to Ole Miss this year. It might actually give us a better argument against our G5 competition for the access spot.
 
Originally posted by arkherdfan:
I basically like your approach Red, but I also want to note . . . I don't think it would hurt us to schedule top tier P5 opponents either.

In the BCS era, it worked better to schedule respectable, mid level P5 teams that we had a reasonable shot at beating, because if we hoped to get a BCS bid, the system rewarded being undefeated more.

Now it's a little different. What used to be a "suicide" game for us against a top 10 team wouldn't necessarily hurt us as much now, with the emphasis on strength of schedule. See Boise's loss to Ole Miss this year. It might actually give us a better argument against our G5 competition for the access spot.
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I completely agree with this. However, the likelihood of us getting a home-and-home with top tier P5 programs is highly unlikely, in my opinion. I think if we can maximize the opportunity to play any P5 program while also driving for home-and-home series', you have more benefit (P5 game for strength-of-schedule, home game for season ticket sales, etc.). If that means filling in the occasional OOC away game slot with a one-and-done vs an Ohio State, Florida, Clemson level program, I'm fine with that as long as it doesn't cost us a home game.
 
Charlotte is likely no better than Norfolk. Not sure why we even have them in the league. Jmo
 
I rather play home and homes with any G5 then play another FCS school

2 G5
2 P5

That's it
 
I know it will get better, but this is the worst home schedule in decades. Or home schedule may not have a team above 150 SOS.
 
based on the "committee's" huge boner over Boise playing (and getting smoked) by a decent P5 we might as well go back to adding 1 P5 asskicker game each year. seems it would only help our case for the G5 Crumb Bowl and put a bunch of $$$ in our pocket too...
 
429, hopefully you won't mind hearing the same BS from the selection committee again next year. You shouldn't if this home schedule doesn't bother you.

I have said all along that I think the best move for C-USA would be to let UAB have an Exit Year, and delay the move of Charlotte to FBS football for one more year. And it still makes sense to me, why move a team into your league whose SOS may be below 70% of the FCS schools playing next year?
 
I'm not complaining, just pointing out that this season's schedule isn't any worse than last season's - at least this one features a P5.

I'll go a step further and say there isn't really any point in complaining, because this is what a Marshall schedule is going to look like every year going forward, minus the year Louisville makes the return trip (provided they still do).

This post was edited on 1/26 11:18 AM by herdalicious
 
Originally posted by andy4theherd:
based on the "committee's" huge boner over Boise playing (and getting smoked) by a decent P5 we might as well go back to adding 1 P5 asskicker game each year. seems it would only help our case for the G5 Crumb Bowl and put a bunch of $$$ in our pocket too...
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I have mixed emotions on that. In principle, you're right. I just like where Hamrick is going with the FUTURE schedules (read, not this years). I like the idea of not selling ourselves out for a money game, especially at the expense of a 6th home game. But with today's environment, money would no longer be the only benefit of a game like that.

This is why I despise what college football has become. Boise could have lost to Ole Miss 80-0, but it wouldnt have mattered, it would have been the same boon to Boise's SoS. They're running this committee like the tournament selection committee, and in my opinion the methodologies that work pretty well for basketball don't carry over to football. In basketball, you have a much larger pool of games from which to judge quality wins and losses. Not to mention, basketball games don't have to be scheduled years in advance. If a team's SoS is looking weak, most of the time you can pick up a game reasonably close to the season.
 
What good would an exit year do for UAB? Their football team has been abolished and from everything you hear their remaining underclass players have either transferred to other schools and/or are looking to do so. I'll bet most, if not all, their coaches have found other jobs or are looking. Even if they played football one more year, what kind of new players would come to a school to play football knowing there would only be 1 season of ball available (2015)?
 
I would rather play a 2 for 1 with a solid P5 school than play an FCS school at home. Playing an FCS opponent can only hurt us. The game means nothing and only bad things can happen.
 
The selection committee wanted Boise because (in their mind) Boise is the best name in G5.

If it hadn't been schedule, it would have been something else. They were going to be anointed (and I think it would have possibly happened even if WKU is a win).

String together 3-4-5 of the 11 plus win seasons again (like late 90s) and we may be back in the game. The West-Marcum-Snyder years did so much more damage than people believe.
 
No one knows for certain. But I think an undefeated Herd gets the nod over a two loss Boise with no P5 wins. The committee showed it's willingness to move teams around and pass other teams even if you don't lose. It's not like traditional polls where you generally stay ahead of another unless you lose. we blew it.
 
Boise was actually rewarded for losing to Ole Miss. The message with the late season rankings was clear: play somebody. The message was Boise is ahead of Marshall until Boise loses. Maybe if we had beaten WKU and then killed LaTech (like Ohio St did to Wisconsin in their championship), then we might have jumped Boise. But I doubt Luck & his cronies would have let that happen.
 
Thing about playing G5 schools, it really doesn't matter who you are playing, the selection committee is going to basically view them as the same with very few exceptions. I'd rather continue trying to sign decent home-and-homes with Purdue, Pitt, Louisville, etc than play pay games, though. The only way it would be worth it to play any school without a return game is if we could get a kickoff neutral site type game like Boise always has. There is zero chance of that happening.

I hate how many MAC schools we're playing. As far as I'm concerned, Ohio, Miami, and Toledo are the only three we should ever schedule and more than two per year. I think we will be playing NC State home-and-home soon, which fits exactly what we want.

This post was edited on 1/27 6:10 PM by lmckay92
 
429,

Nope. They just can't accept anything anymore.

A few years ago, everyone was complaining the schedule was too hard. They also complained about lack of regional games one could drive to.

Hamrick gave them both.

Now they complain because the schedule is too easy and the regional games (Mostly MAC schools) are too boring.

Which is funny because they claim C-USA as a whole, is unappealing...yet they wanted back in the MAC and we're playing MAC schools, who are also, unappealing.

All these idiots do is complain. Hamrick's pulled together some P-5 schools.

I don't give a flying f.cuk how bad Purdue is...they're a P-5 school from a conference who just won the goddamn NC. We finally get them at home.
We win that, we will have momentum early on in the CFP...and ollie luck isn't there to try to hold us back.

Quit complaining, the schedule is what it is. Hamrick's not some magician who can magically call up a school for a 1:1...I think you lowlifes tend to forget that.
Quit with the critical amounts of BS, shut up, and root for us to win.
 
I heard we're in 2 for 1 discussions with Ohio State and Alabama. First games will be here...

Man oh man, Arkansas State is now a household word. What have they ever done?
 
Originally posted by Tim Hensley:

I heard we're in 2 for 1 discussions with Ohio State and Alabama. First games will be here...

Man oh man, Arkansas State is now a household word. What have they ever done?
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There is absolutely zero chance of either Ohio State or Alabama ever coming to Huntington. Ever.
 
The exit year is for all other sports but Football at UAB. This gives them a chance to find another league without being cast to Independent status while they look. Preventing Charlotte from moving up for one more year would give them a chance to develop some winning tradition at the lower level; if they can't do it there they sure won't do it in our league. And quite frankly, if Charlotte wins in C-USA we'll all look pretty low to those making national decisions.

By the way, I determine that those on here who routinely have to drop to calling some of idiots have a very low range of vocabulary. Guess you'll just have to live with the inability of being more creative than calling others idiots, which is just below being one for real.
 
Exactly Red. It's not just a P5 thing, it's stadium size and attendence at those P5 schools.

If a P5 has a 80-100,0000 seat stadium that is always sold out, they aren't leaving to visit most anyone except a made for TV 1-1 with other power or some other traditional game. You look for those schools in the 40,000-70000 seat stadiums. UL, wvu, kstate, nc state, va tech, Purdue all fit that bill.
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Originally posted by Herdstruck:
429,

Nope. They just can't accept anything anymore.

A few years ago, everyone was complaining the schedule was too hard. They also complained about lack of regional games one could drive to.

Hamrick gave them both.

Now they complain because the schedule is too easy and the regional games (Mostly MAC schools) are too boring.

Which is funny because they claim C-USA as a whole, is unappealing...yet they wanted back in the MAC and we're playing MAC schools, who are also, unappealing.

All these idiots do is complain. Hamrick's pulled together some P-5 schools.

I don't give a flying f.cuk how bad Purdue is...they're a P-5 school from a conference who just won the goddamn NC. We finally get them at home.
We win that, we will have momentum early on in the CFP...and ollie luck isn't there to try to hold us back.

Quit complaining, the schedule is what it is. Hamrick's not some magician who can magically call up a school for a 1:1...I think you lowlifes tend to forget that.
Quit with the critical amounts of BS, shut up, and root for us to win.
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You're already pulling this crap again? The mods and everyone else on HN are tired of your act.

Consider this your last warning. Ever.
 
Originally posted by RedParallax:


Originally posted by Tim Hensley:

I heard we're in 2 for 1 discussions with Ohio State and Alabama. First games will be here...

Man oh man, Arkansas State is now a household word. What have they ever done?
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There is absolutely zero chance of either Ohio State or Alabama ever coming to Huntington. Ever.
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I thought it was pretty clear he wasn't serious. But that's just me. :)
 
You are probably correct and he is credible poster. Sarcasm is difficult to detect via electronic media and you have to admit, plenty of stupid stuff flies around the net
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Originally posted by 19MU88:
You are probably correct and he is credible poster. Sarcasm is difficult to detect via electronic media and you have to admit, plenty of stupid stuff flies around the net
Posted from Rivals Mobile
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Yea, unless sarcasm is explicitly stated, there's no real way to know on this board. I've seen some pretty stupid stuff posted on here before that came off completely seriously.
 
Its gonna be a blast next fall. Win all our games and thump someone in a bowl. I cant wait.
 
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