Although Trump gave no explicit evidence that Iran violated the deal, he said Iran had clearly lied
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I thought Obama and co said the deal would cripple Iran’s ability to enrich uranium and it would take months if not years before they were able to enrich it again.
EG over here rooting for the Mullah's.
Guess what is declared by the pen can by undeclared by the pen.
Guess what is declared by the pen can by undeclared by the pen.
Yep...Obama lived and died by Executive Orders and now it's coming back to haunt him. If a president can write it into law himself, another one can write it back out.
It's an unfortunate reality, but liberals are often put into a position to defend America's enemies, or at least not take the side of America when there is a conflict. That would be such a horrible position to put yourself on a regular basis, but here we are.
It's an unfortunate reality, but liberals are often put into a position to defend America's enemies, or at least not take the side of America when there is a conflict. That would be such a horrible position to put yourself on a regular basis, but here we are.
EG rooting on the Rag Heads, who constantly chant, 'Death to America'.
What a disgraceful human being.
What a disgraceful human being.
even john kerry (reporting for duty!) noted it was likely that a portion of the funding would go to funding terrorists.
Kudos for breaking the deal. Doing this deal with Iran was similar to paying a bully on the playground at lunch not to be a bully and then offering him your girlfriend as a bonus. Obummer is weak and this deal is no good for anyone but Iran and terrorists.
Oh, and btw, Obummer and Ben Rhodes lied to the American people about the deal in the first place.
Truth be told, if we polled American lawmakers with the question "would you feel bad if we nuked the shit out of Tehran?" , I'm pretty sure "No" would come out ahead. And I'm fine with that.
If that happens you want to get together, get drunk on Blantons (I can't smoke a fat bowl until I retire), and sit in the front row to watch someone press the red button? Because it would be a fvcking riot.
We may need the Blantons if Russia responds with their own red button. Down the hatch and wait for the flash....
I'll never understand why Russia/USSR and the USA want to proxy war in the Middle East. Is there really some benefit in picking Sunni or Shia to stand with? They are both assholes.
When it comes to the ME in general I agree. It's an oversimplification but we should either be all in or all out. Iran is a different animal though. Personally, I'd let Israel take the lead and give them our full support. Somehow, we've simultaneously found ourselves in a proxy war and a mexican standoff with a bit of irregular warfare mixed in. How a bunch of mud hut dwellers did that to the worlds only superpower is pretty impressive.
Iran hasn't been nomads or hut dwellers for a long, long time. We are talking about one of the great ancient empires. Not a bunch of Bedouins. Iran is on my bucket list, if the mullahs are ever given the boot.
I was talking about the general ME with that half-joke. Those mud huts can absorb a .50 cal or a M19 round like we're shooting bb guns at it. Pretty impressive. Meanwhile we've spent billions and had 3 different layers of up-armament to get the same effect, never-mind the turbo and air intake upgrades that weren't considered during the vehicle refit. Those goat fvckers can hunker down better than we can, proven throughout the last few hundred years.
Again, Iran is a different animal. They are the closest thing the ME (besides Jordan and UAE), has to a 1st world country (rebelling against Rouhani, and us throwing wifi over the 'fence line' will get them there), and their chicks are smoking hot. I've stepped foot across the boarder line before, it was awesome. If you want to visit I'll go with as long as Bam is the initial visit. It's layout give us a good E&E route if shit goes bad, and it's close enough to the boarder to set up a rat line.
EG stands for nothing and believes in nothing. He won't even believe in a religion and stick to it.
I'll bring this back up if in fact a deal is done with NK. We can compare paying bullies.
I'm quoting these so EG can't delete them when shit goes bad for him.
Can you, in your own words, tell us that the Iran deal was adhered to by Iran? Why, if so popular, were major democratic powerhouses like Sen. Reed and Sen Schumer against it? Why then, did Obama make the deal an executive action instead of a treaty? If the deal was working the way it was advertised explain why the Head of Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Ali Akbar Salehi, say on Tuesday “If we decide, we can reach 20 percent (uranium) enrichment within five days." Now then, explain the "farce" in your OP.
Would love to have seen the Arg e Bam before the big quake. Yeah they rebuilt it, but left a lot out too.
true, and they want to be known as Persians not Arabs. Of all of the ME crowd they are by far the most serious group in my book. If it weren't for the mullahs then I doubt that we would be having this discussion.
Can you provide any credible evidence Iran has not complied with the deal?
I don't know who Reed is, but Schumer was against it because it didn't do anything about "building intercontinental ballistic missiles and “funding terrorists, particularly Hezbollah, which has huge amounts of rockets in Lebanon" which the nuclear plan didn't cover according to my understanding.
Because republicans would not have agreed to it.
The deal was that they wouldn't do so, and there is no evidence Iran has failed to comply.
OK. He's a 71 year old liar who fooled enough morons to vote for him to become the most incompetent president the United States has ever had.
Extra look at the cache of info Israel obtained. That proves they weren’t in compliance because they were supposed to turn over all materials which they obviously didn’t. And I know you will ignore this so I’ll flip it around for you. Prove they WERE in compliance
"But Mr. Netanyahu did not provide any evidence that Iran had violated the nuclear agreement since it took effect in early 2016."
"Mr. Netanyahu’s best case for a violation of the Iran deal came when he insisted that the Iranians had falsified their declarations to the I.A.E.A. in late 2015, by denying they had ever planned to build a weapon. Still, even that would come as little shock to those who negotiated the deal: In effect, the agreement was made possible by allowing Iran to lie about the past, while imposing verification on it for the future."
"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that American intelligence agencies had been going through the material, concluded that it was authentic and that “at the very least the Iranians continued to lie to their own people” about the existence of a nuclear weapons program.
But he conceded that the material dated to a project that had formally ended around 2003."
it's amazing what extragreen is willing to ignore to pretend obama's deal was some great accomplishment
Shouldn't that be enough to oppose the deal? It's a frighteningly half-assed solution.
They had to come clean about their nuclear program. That would include admiring their real goal which those documents show they didn’t do.
Sure, if you're stupid enough to believe Iran is going to give up everything you ask for. In the meantime l'll accept an Iran without nuclear weapons.
Intelligence from several countries knew they were lying about their goals at the time. Are you going to refuse a deal with NK while knowing they've lied many times in the past? That's what I thought.
Translation: "Sure, Iran lies. But I believe them when they say they aren't pursuing nuclear weapons."
Wtf?
