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AMERICANS CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FACT AND OPINION

Even better (worse?), most couldn't tell the difference between a fact and a patently false statement. Need an example? Watch any of those "man on the street" question and answer sessions from pundits/comedians from either end of the political spectrum. Bottom line is, Americans are generally too stupid and/or intellectually lazy to actually take the time to learn about much of anything in the political or philosophical realms. We're a country of morons, and it isn't limited to one party.
 
Even better (worse?), most couldn't tell the difference between a fact and a patently false statement. Need an example? Watch any of those "man on the street" question and answer sessions from pundits/comedians from either end of the political spectrum. Bottom line is, Americans are generally too stupid and/or intellectually lazy to actually take the time to learn about much of anything in the political or philosophical realms. We're a country of morons, and it isn't limited to one party.

This is true. You should never stop learning...ever. I’d add intellectually dishonest to your list as well. I think it’s important that the extent of your learning should not be attempts to validate previously help positions. History, science, literature...the more you learn the greater perspective you have.
 
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Even better (worse?), most couldn't tell the difference between a fact and a patently false statement. Need an example?

Yeah, like thinking when an American breaks the law, they get separated from their children.

Or thinking you have to be on US soil to apply for asylum.
 
Yeah, like thinking when an American breaks the law, they get separated from their children.

Or thinking you have to be on US soil to apply for asylum.

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To be clear, you don't believe people that have been arrested and detained for committing a criminal act are separated from their families? Because I have been in many county jails, as well as federal and state prisons, and I have yet to see the "family-friendly" block.

Also, you deny that you have to be (1) already in the U.S., or (2) detained in a U.S. holding facility (which, is IN the U.S.) in order to request asylum? Because that's EXACTLY what the law requires. You can seek refugee status from outside the U.S., which is entirely different and involves a different process than asylum.

If those are your positions, I'd like to see a link or two in support. I don't have any problem admitting when I'm wrong.
 
Yeah, like thinking when an American breaks the law, they get separated from their children.

Or thinking you have to be on US soil to apply for asylum.

What about those families where illegals murdered their children? Forever separation in those cases. Liberals tend to forget all the facts.

Libtards are better at cherry picking than migrant workers who at least the majority come across our borders legally.

This recent bunch of immigrants were told not to come in the USA illegally....they did and are being processed to be returned to their country.

Did the rag Time magazine have faces on the front page of murdered children by illegals? The did a false narrative with a picture of a 4 year child beside Trump which mentioned that child had been separated from her family. The story which later was deemed totally false on all counts.
 
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What about those families where illegals murdered their children? Forever separation in those cases. Liberals tend to forget all the facts.

Libtards are better at cherry picking than migrant workers who at least the majority come across our borders legally.

This recent bunch of immigrants were told not to come in the USA illegally....they did and are being processed to be returned to their country.

Did the rag Time magazine have faces on the front page of murdered children by illegals? The did a false narrative with a picture of a 4 year child beside Trump which mentioned that child had been separated from her family. The story which later was deemed totally false on all counts.
I really hadn't considered lumping those seeking political asylum or migrant workers with murderers. Guess I just don't have my mind "right".

BTW, I don't disagree with the stance to control those coming in....but we don't have separate them from their children.
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Did the rag Time magazine have faces on the front page of murdered children by illegals? The did a false narrative with a picture of a 4 year child beside Trump which mentioned that child had been separated from her family. The story which later was deemed totally false on all counts.
While that particular child hadn't been separated....are you claiming that separation from families didn't occur? I'll agree that was terrible, lazy journalism on Time Magazine's part...but a "false narrative"? Believe there's plenty of separated children involved in this mess to support the premise of the picture.
 
To be clear, you don't believe people that have been arrested and detained for committing a criminal act are separated from their families?.

That wasn’t what you claimed. This is what you claimed and when you realized your f’uck up, you were embarrassed and deleted your post.

“When an American breaks the law, don't they get separated from their families too, or do the kids get to go to jail with dad?”

So no, when an American breaks the law, they are not necessarily separated from their families.

Moron. Keep doubling and tripling down. I enjoy this.

Here is your second f’uck up.

You do know you actually have to be on U.S. soil to actually declare asylum, right? Cause it really doesn't sound like you do.



And you called me an idiot. That is rich.
 
While that particular child hadn't been separated....are you claiming that separation from families didn't occur? I'll agree that was terrible, lazy journalism on Time Magazine's part...but a "false narrative"? Believe there's plenty of separated children involved in this mess to support the premise of the picture.
I wouldn’t say false narrative I would say selective narrative. It fit what they, the media, wanted to portray trump as all the while ignoring worse conditions under obama
 
I wouldn’t say false narrative I would say selective narrative. It fit what they, the media, wanted to portray trump as all the while ignoring worse conditions under obama
I agree that Obama was tough on those crossing the border - he deported a ton....but what's your proof things were worse under Obama? And don't include the young people who were detained crossing the border without their parents. How many children were forcibly removed from their parents under Obama vs Trump.
 
Asylum is a protection granted to foreign nationals already in the United States or at the border who meet the international law definition of a “refugee.”

This was your post ^^^, which is wholly incorrect. There are 2 ways you can seek asylum. Either requires you to actually be in the U.S. . You either (1) have to already be present in the U.S., or (2) detained in the U.S. because you tried to cross illegally. I'm not sure why you're having problems with this. It's not complicated. As I stated above, seeking refugee status is a completely different process than claiming asylum. Refugee status is done from one's home country and often takes several years to complete. It has absolutely nothing to do with the current debate over asylum.

That wasn’t what you claimed. This is what you claimed and when you realized your f’uck up, you were embarrassed and deleted your post.

“When an American breaks the law, don't they get separated from their families

I never said that ^^^. That was BC. You're too ignorant to even remember who you're arguing with. Nor did I ever delete any post. I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
I agree that Obama was tough on those crossing the border - he deported a ton....but what's your proof things were worse under Obama? And don't include the young people who were detained crossing the border without their parents. How many children were forcibly removed from their parents under Obama vs Trump.
Those cage pictures were from the Obama admin. That’s much worse
 
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