Among the Undefeated

[bbneutralfan]

Coastal Carolina beat Appalachian State 34 to 23 to remain undefeated.
Cincinnati beat UCF 36 to 33 to stay unbeaten.
Liberty though lost their first game. NC Sate squeaked by 15 to 14. So since we did not play will there be any movement for us?

 

[johns1124]

I have a feeling we will move to 18+. I have this $hitty feeling it's not over yet. FIU will have the virus bug soon.

Hope not, but just have a feeling.

 

[RhinoD]

Looking at yesterdays results two things became pretty clear...

First, Cincy is going undefeated and will be the G5 rep in the New Years Six games. No offense to Tulsa, but when you are beating ECU on a fluke (that the league admitted was the wrong officiating call) and slipping past Tulane in overtime, you probably shouldn't be ranked. Cincy will beat them.

If we win out, we will finish somewhere between 12-15... I think Northwestern will jump us this week, Coastal will break the tie and move ahead of us, Oklahoma State will drop behind us and Wisconsin may too. We were 15 last week, my guess is 15 or 16 this week when the polls come out. With another bye next week we wont move up any and may move down a spot or two. Beating Rice and FIU won't move the needle, but we may get a bump if we win the CUSA title game.

 

[Pioneer_PA]

Marshall is No. 16 in this week’s coaches poll. Iowa State swapped with us.

 

[johns1124]

Looking at yesterdays results two things became pretty clear...

First, Cincy is going undefeated and will be the G5 rep in the New Years Six games. No offense to Tulsa, but when you are beating ECU on a fluke (that the league admitted was the wrong officiating call) and slipping past Tulane in overtime, you probably shouldn't be ranked. Cincy will beat them.

The interesting question is... Let's say Cincy by some stretch get into the playoffs. Does that mean the next highest G5 gets the access bowl? Or would the Access Bowl be considered Cincy in the Playoff Spot.


I am surprised that we only dropped one this week in the coaches.

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We even have more votes than Coastal. Apparently, they were not impressed with the way they played Appy st.

 

[120050143]

The interesting question is... Let's say Cincy by some stretch get into the playoffs. Does that mean the next highest G5 gets the access bowl? Or would the Access Bowl be considered Cincy in the Playoff Spot.


I am surprised that we only dropped one this week in the coaches.

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We even have more votes than Coastal. Apparently, they were not impressed with the way they played Appy st.

Even stranger is that a two loss App State is still receiving double digit votes

 

[RhinoD]

The interesting question is... Let's say Cincy by some stretch get into the playoffs. Does that mean the next highest G5 gets the access bowl? Or would the Access Bowl be considered Cincy in the Playoff Spot.

If Cincy makes the top four and gets into the playoffs, then the next G5 team will get the NY6 spot... I just don't see that happening though... Here are playoff givens.

SEC champ (Bama or Florida)
ACC Champ (Notre Dame or Clemson)
Big10 champ (Ohio State or Northwestern)
One open spot (I think the committee will put a one-loss P5 team, especially if its Notre Dame, in before they let Cincy get in there)

 

[120050143]

If Cincy makes the top four and gets into the playoffs, then the next G5 team will get the NY6 spot... I just don't see that happening though... Here are playoff givens.

SEC champ (Bama or Florida)
ACC Champ (Notre Dame or Clemson)
Big10 champ (Ohio State or Northwestern)
One open spot (I think the committee will put a one-loss P5 team, especially if its Notre Dame, in before they let Cincy get in there)

If Cincy makes the playoff, then a G5 is no longer guaranteed a NY6

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

The interesting question is... Let's say Cincy by some stretch get into the playoffs. Does that mean the next highest G5 gets the access bowl? Or would the Access Bowl be considered Cincy in the Playoff Spot.


I am surprised that we only dropped one this week in the coaches.

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We even have more votes than Coastal. Apparently, they were not impressed with the way they played Appy st.

Will people just get it through their skulls that Cincy is NOT going to the playoff?
If they win out, they're going to the NY6 and will likely be paired with BYU as an At Large.

Cincy needs to lose to a 2 loss divisional champion for MU to even gain a sniff of the NY6. It is possible, but not likely.

The CFP will do everything to ensure that doesn't happen.
It has already given them a scare that so many G5's are ranked this late into the season.

It's also a bitter reality that if the G5 had a pair, could force upon the P5.
Plenty of schools aren't going to have winning records, and will finish with a ridiculously unappealing look that even ESPN's production crews are going to struggle with hyping up over an unbeaten or 1 loss G5 school.

P5 is not looking good limiting themselves to conference only schedules and with someone like a 2 loss Georgia in the top 10 in the coaches poll, says all I need to know that the G5 is absolutely being left out.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

This is simply not true

Of course its not true.

Cincy won't be in the CFP.

 

[BleedsGreen33]

Will people just get it through their skulls that Cincy is NOT going to the playoff?
If they win out, they're going to the NY6 and will likely be paired with BYU as an At Large.

Cincy needs to lose to a 2 loss divisional champion for MU to even gain a sniff of the NY6. It is possible, but not likely.

The CFP will do everything to ensure that doesn't happen.
It has already given them a scare that so many G5's are ranked this late into the season.

It's also a bitter reality that if the G5 had a pair, could force upon the P5.
Plenty of schools aren't going to have winning records, and will finish with a ridiculously unappealing look that even ESPN's production crews are going to struggle with hyping up over an unbeaten or 1 loss G5 school.

P5 is not looking good limiting themselves to conference only schedules and with someone like a 2 loss Georgia in the top 10 in the coaches poll, says all I need to know that the G5 is absolutely being left out.

Exactly. In order for UC or BYU for that matter to have the slimmest of hopes every P5 in the top10 would have to have two losses.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Exactly. In order for UC or BYU for that matter to have the slimmest of hopes every P5 in the top10 would have to have two losses.

CFP Committee even said, "We considered expansion, but aren't going to" AKA "We don't give a fu*k but pretend to."

 

[johns1124]

Will people just get it through their skulls that Cincy is NOT going to the playoff?
If they win out, they're going to the NY6 and will likely be paired with BYU as an At Large.

If they win out with convincing fashion, it's going to be hard to keep them out.

College Football Playoff - Wikipedia

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What is the common demoinator?

The same four teams are in it dam near every year.

Out of the six past "Playoff" years
Clemson 5
Alabama 4
Ohio St 4

No wonder the last two years college viewership is going down. I think the general public is starting to get tired of the same charade year after year. If Cincy wins out convincingly and gets screwed to a one-loss OSU. you may see a mutiny with TV rating post-New Years. Not what the P5 wants, but ultimate survivability may dictate they have to adjust.

 

[Herdmeister]

The P5 will not allow a G5 to take that much money. The playoffs will be 4 P5 schools

 

[BleedsGreen33]

CFP Committee even said, "We considered expansion, but aren't going to" AKA "We don't give a fu*k but pretend to."

They never will. The goal when it was created was to serve 4 conferences of 16 teams until the ACC mucked it up. We'll have another realignment before we see a playoff expansion.

Even if we did go to 8 teams it's not like multiple G5s are getting in that one either.

FBS football is corrupt.

 

[BleedsGreen33]

If they win out with convincing fashion, it's going to be hard to keep them out.

College Football Playoff - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is the common demoinator?

The same four teams are in it dam near every year.

Our of the six past "Playoff" years
Clemson 5
Alabama 4
Ohio St 4

No wonder the last two years college viewership is going down. I think the general public is starting to get tired of the same charade year after year. If Cincy wins out convincingly and gets screwed to a one-loss OSU. you may see a mutiny with TV rating post-New Years. Not what the P5 wants, but ultimate survivability may dictate they have to adjust.

If you look over all the AP, BCS, and Playoff national championships it's the handful of teams winning them. FBS football is a model that serves about 10-15 out 130 programs and even in that 10-15 about half those teams are dominating. It's blue blood programs only. They do everything they can to keep "outsiders" from succeeding.

It's a monopoly that should be busted up.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Something else to note...FAU is getting votes in the AP.
We gotta hope they win out.
They and App State are all we can rely on for bolstering ourselves up.

It also appears, it may be that we drop the Rice game entirely since the West Division of CUSA is completely cluttered currently and Rice is going to be in demand.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

If they win out with convincing fashion, it's going to be hard to keep them out.

College Football Playoff - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is the common demoinator?

The same four teams are in it dam near every year.

Our of the six past "Playoff" years
Clemson 5
Alabama 4
Ohio St 4

No wonder the last two years college viewership is going down. I think the general public is starting to get tired of the same charade year after year. If Cincy wins out convincingly and gets screwed to a one-loss OSU. you may see a mutiny with TV rating post-New Years. Not what the P5 wants, but ultimate survivability may dictate they have to adjust.

You won't see a damn thing change.
Ucf went undefeated for 2 years straight and still got left out.

The general public isn't considered by the NCAA. If they were, the CFP would have been expanded.
Don't you get it? The NCAA is greed driven and give no cares in the world that Coastal or ohio state Jr. are doing well in a year that they'll much rather forget existed than give the G5 NY6 champion credit.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

They never will. The goal when it was created was to serve 4 conferences of 16 teams until the ACC mucked it up. We'll have another realignment before we see a playoff expansion.

Even if we did go to 8 teams it's not like multiple G5s are getting in that one either.

FBS football is corrupt.

I'd love to see Texas and OU go independent, just to dissolve the Big 12 and relegate some of its members to homelessness since the "consideration" of conference expansion gave them zero added value when reviewing several members ready to tell Mike Aresco to suck it.

8 teams are ideal with a single G5 being invited in. But that makes too much sense and isn't part if being greedy af that the NCAA is used to.

 

[Herdmeister]

You won't see a damn thing change.
Ucf went undefeated for 2 years straight and still got left out.

The general public isn't considered by the NCAA. If they were, the CFP would have been expanded.
Don't you get it? The NCAA is greed driven and give no cares in the world that Coastal or ohio state Jr. are doing well in a year that they'll much rather forget existed than give the G5 NY6 champion credit.

Keep in mind, the CFP is not connected to the NCAA. They are run by the P5. That is the autonomy we gave them to get 1 NY6 spot.
Basketball is the money maker for the NCAA

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Keep in mind, the CFP is not connected to the NCAA. They are run by the P5. That is the autonomy we gave them to get 1 NY6 spot.
Basketball is the money maker for the NCAA

That is true, but do you not think the NCAA isn't buzzing in their ears, influencing their decision making? Lots of money for these bowls and if the NCAA turns a blind eye to the multitude of cheating, the CFP ensures that the NCAA only worry about the elites and destroys the rest. As I have said, if this process were actually unbiased, UCF would've played in the CFP.

 

[Herdmeister]

That is true, but do you not think the NCAA isn't buzzing in their ears, influencing their decision making? Lots of money for these bowls and if the NCAA turns a blind eye to the multitude of cheating, the CFP ensures that the NCAA only worry about the elites and destroys the rest. As I have said, if this process were actually unbiased, UCF would've played in the CFP.

The NCAA has nothing to do with the bowls. They are run by ESPN and the P5
The bowls have agreements with the conferences This will be the first time that they can all be met

 

[Rock98Dog]

This is simply not true

It simply is true. The highest ranked G5 champion is guaranteed a spot in a NY6 bowl game. If that team happens to be in the top 4 and makes the playoff that is the spot guaranteed among the NY6 bowls. Any other G5 team would have to make it as an at large bid.

 

[Pioneer_PA]

It simply is true. The highest ranked G5 champion is guaranteed a spot in a NY6 bowl game. If that team happens to be in the top 4 and makes the playoff that is the spot guaranteed among the NY6 bowls. Any other G5 team would have to make it as an at large bid.

You are correct. I misread the post I initially replied to. I have deleted that post.