Anti-fluoride, flat earthers, anti-vaxxers
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I'm not anti vaccinations. I do think that the vaccination schedule is to hard on a child's body and should be spread out a little better. I think it's call Smart Vax scheduling. I also think that fluoridated water is a bit much but fluoridated toothpaste is about right. Kind of a Goldilocks analogy.
None of that or man made global warming hoax. Just like the latest hurricanes. Here they come global warming, global warming. Ok, where were you all in the 12 plus years a major hurricane did not hit the USA? Global warming, global warming. Biggest fraud ever.
From a trusted meteorologist I follow :
A hurricane's category is solely based on its maximum sustained winds. A hurricane is labeled "major" when it reaches category 3 (115 mph winds) strength.
Remarkably, we went nearly 12 years without a major hurricane hitting the U.S. That shattered the old record of 8 years set between 1861-1868. Our luck ran out in 2017 when category 4 Harvey hit Texas. Just 16 days later, category 4 Irma slammed into Florida. Add Maria in Puerto Rico and Michael in Florida and we've had 4 category 4 hurricanes hit the U.S. in less than 14 months. In our recorded history, we've never had that many category 4 hurricanes hit the U.S. in such a short amount of time.
During the long lull, we had a persistent trough over the eastern seaboard turning storms away. In the mid-2000s and over the last two years, we've had ridges of high pressure over the U.S. that steer storms more westward toward the U.S.
Months ahead of a hurricane season, meteorologists can forecast the number of storms that will form with some success, but the patterns that steer them are not easily predicted beyond 5 days.
Scientists chalk up the huge variability over the past 25 years to chance, rather than any identifiable climate pattern or the effect of climate change. Even during the long lull, major hurricanes raked Mexico and many Caribbean countries. In other words, during the nearly 12-year lull, we were extremely lucky. The mid 2000s and the past two years, extremely unlucky.
From a trusted meteorologist I follow :
A hurricane's category is solely based on its maximum sustained winds. A hurricane is labeled "major" when it reaches category 3 (115 mph winds) strength.
Remarkably, we went nearly 12 years without a major hurricane hitting the U.S. That shattered the old record of 8 years set between 1861-1868. Our luck ran out in 2017 when category 4 Harvey hit Texas. Just 16 days later, category 4 Irma slammed into Florida. Add Maria in Puerto Rico and Michael in Florida and we've had 4 category 4 hurricanes hit the U.S. in less than 14 months. In our recorded history, we've never had that many category 4 hurricanes hit the U.S. in such a short amount of time.
During the long lull, we had a persistent trough over the eastern seaboard turning storms away. In the mid-2000s and over the last two years, we've had ridges of high pressure over the U.S. that steer storms more westward toward the U.S.
Months ahead of a hurricane season, meteorologists can forecast the number of storms that will form with some success, but the patterns that steer them are not easily predicted beyond 5 days.
Scientists chalk up the huge variability over the past 25 years to chance, rather than any identifiable climate pattern or the effect of climate change. Even during the long lull, major hurricanes raked Mexico and many Caribbean countries. In other words, during the nearly 12-year lull, we were extremely lucky. The mid 2000s and the past two years, extremely unlucky.
So you don’t think the average earth temperature has steadily increased over the years?
Sure, but what is man's effect on that. That's the big question. Hence, why I wrote "man made" global warming.
The man made global warming alarmists come out of the wood work when an even happens, but go silent when nothing happens like for 12 years. The Hurricanes are really do different. More people live on the coasts. We have more development. We have 24 hours news. We have the internet. More people pay attention now. Now, if you want to say flooding is worse because of development and storm water run off, that is a legitimate discussion. I am all ears. But, OMG mad made the hurricanes worse. Get real and work on real problems.
Tony cavalier, I hear they trade gerbils on a regular basis
charts show less than one degree over the past 140 years.
i think global warming is an issue to an extent. entertaining are the global conspirators screaming global warming when we have a crazy warm low precip winter, like 2016/17, or a crazy hot/dry summer like, um, pick one excluding the current one over the past several years, then claim the same global warming issue when we have a wet, reasonably mild summer like we just had, or a long cold high precip winter like the one i think we're about to get.
i do think air pollution of the past has had an affect on the ozone and i do think the world has done a lot to curtail it. look no further than smog pics of large cities years ago versus today.
doesn't really matter, about the time earth gets its global warming shit together, it'll get hit by a meteor half its size and explode into a gazillion pieces, killing off everything, anyhow. so why should we really give a good shit . . .
I do think the earths temperature has increased over the past century but I have no idea what impact that has or even humans had on creating it. One would think that with the population increase over that time frame we had to have some sort of an impact on it. How we stop it I’m not certain.
a purge on libs would be a start.
I was thinking WVU fans
Ed piotrowski wpde south Carolina
One of the best in the business and a go to guy when i am tracking hurricanes
There's absolutely no credible science to back this up. You might as well just go full anti-vax if you're going to believe in shit like this.
yet another hypocritical racial slur from a disgusting liberal.
@extragreen what is your stance on whether or not the Earth is flat?
Does either theory violate any Scientology commandments?
#WWLRHD?
Does either theory violate any Scientology commandments?
#WWLRHD?
That's tough to answer, as the Bible also discusses how Earth doesn't move and that it's the sun that moves around Earth.
Good little deplorable. You will fit right in with the other deplorables on this board.
While it is true that some theologians have held this view and some to this day, I would suggest that not all Christians believe that Yaggs. It was once thought that the earth was physically located at the exact center of the universe, and furthermore that it did not move. This “geocentric” view is still held today by a few people, although Scripture does not require it and observation clearly shows the earth’s movement. The earth revolves around the sun once a year. I know that I do not believe that.
Yet the Bible makes numerous mentions of the Earth being stable/immovable, etc., the sun being the entity that actually moves, etc.
Of course, like with the numerous references to the Earth being a circle and/or flat in the Bible instead of spherical, modern Christians simply say "Oh, well the Christians who were closer to Jesus in terms of time simply misinterpreted all of those passages. Those were just dozens of times of figurative language even though we all agreed with them at the time until science proved us to be morons, at which point, we had to accept truth and do a 180 on our stance."
Figure out what you are arguing against first, then get back to us.
Let me guess, you just have a "scientific instinct."
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Or we could just listen to advice given by educated medical doctors.
It's always amusing when you question someones deeply held beliefs how they react. Who knew that calling for a more measured approach to vaccinating our children would cause such a vehement response. You'd think that I said the earth was flat or that the moon landings were staged.
What do you mean? I think that's a reasonable position. Some vaccines have serious potential side effects, but that doesn't mean the good doesn't outweigh the potential harm. The anti-anti-vaccination crowd has gone nearly as far retard as the anti-vaccination morons. You can be pro-vaccination while still acknowledging that's mostly poison being used as treatment. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy are poison too, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to use them if I get cancer.
I'm 100% pro-vaccination, btw, before one of our resident idiots tries to misrepresent what I said. But I think we can acknowledge not everything that is mostly good is risk-free.
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The “going full anti-vax” comment was tongue in cheek, I admit.
But my first comment was not. There’s nothing that points to current vaccination schedules being too much for children. Claiming otherwise is supporting nothing more than something a bunch of soccer moms made up because they were sad about their babies getting too many needles.
not on Herdnation. You can"t raise any concerns about the current vaccine schedules on here. If you raise any concerns you will be accuse of wearing a tin foil hat, flat earther etc. I mean we all know that the guys in white coats have never been wrong before about anything, just ask the people who ended up with cancer years ago. Here is a nice story about the experts view on smoking before 1965.
https://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/news/print/hemonc-today/{241d62a7-fe6e-4c5b-9fed-a33cc6e4bd7c}/cigarettes-were-once-physician-tested-approved
The problem with this (your reasonable position statement) is that the risk goes beyond those children whose parents refuse to vaccinate them. The vaccination schedule runs in doses with the majority of the final doses not being received, depending on the vaccine, till between 18 months all the way up to 18 years old.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
There has been a sharp increase in once nearly eradicated diseases in young children. Some of the kids getting these diseases are ones whose parents fully intend to complete the vaccination schedule, but are too young to have completed it. They are being exposed to these diseases in hospitals, shopping centers, their neighborhood, etc. before they’ve built a full immunity.
I have two grandsons that are 12 and 14 months old. I would be beyond pissed if one of them developed measles, chicken pox, or worse because the disease was spread by the child of some idiot parent who shuns sound medical treatments for their child based on the sketchy research from some conspiracy kook site.
But these unvaccinated kids aren’t just putting other kids at risk, they are endangering many in the general population as well. Many adults have weakened immune systems for various reasons. They might be receiving chemo for cancer or are HIV positive. One of these diseases could actually kill them.
People can believe in flat earth all they want. Stupidity in this case doesn’t hurt anyone. But the risk posed by the anti vax movement to the general population more than pisses me off. THIS is the group that needs deported...straight to the shithole countries you’re always talking about.
My first child had a febrile seizure from getting vaccines. We slowed the schedule down for our second. No harm no foul for either.
The evidence that smoking was harmful dates way before the 1960s. There was speculation in the late 1800s in Germany and research proving it harmful goes back to the 30s and 40s. By 1960, over 1/3 of doctors were convinced that smoking was harmful...
https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/21/2/87
But the tobacco industry obscured the data and manufactured doubt to protect their own interest...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2879177/
Maybe this clown is like Raoul “to the right of Eisenhower” Duke. Doesn’t know what he really is nor does he know where he shit last
I shit wherever I want, I may just shit right on your front porch. And there’s not a damn thing you could do about it if I did.
The biggest problem for the man-made global warming crowd is the fact their biggest cheerleaders are a bunch of hypocrites and exaggerators to the point where they cried wolf so many times that nobody is going to actually listen to any legitimate stuff on this.
The reality is that the temperature of the earth has fluctuated a degree up and down for a long time. Hence all the talk in Dickens about the Thames freezing and Julius Caesar writing about the warm weather in Britain during his first campaign.
The reality is that the temperature of the earth has fluctuated a degree up and down for a long time. Hence all the talk in Dickens about the Thames freezing and Julius Caesar writing about the warm weather in Britain during his first campaign.
