LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE MARSHALL PLAYERS ON 1st TEAMS 🤩
PS anyone who's unhappy with this is a bad Marshall Fan 😠 unlike Mr. Perkins and me.
PS anyone who's unhappy with this is a bad Marshall Fan 😠 unlike Mr. Perkins and me.
Athlon Sports releases Sunbelt's All-Conference Teams
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One player on the first or second team offense... Zero specialists on any of the FOUR teams... Yikes.
The list makes it clear who the preseason favorite to win the league is going to be - App State has every starter on one of these teams (no idea why they have four teams of preseason all conference picks).
The list makes it clear who the preseason favorite to win the league is going to be - App State has every starter on one of these teams (no idea why they have four teams of preseason all conference picks).
The D1 assistant with no HC experience or solid staff connections is coming home to bite us in the butt. jmho
Maybe we are going to play Iowa football this year... Try to win every game 9-7. Lol
I'm sure the story line will be, MU doesn't have the necessary NIL money to compete for top players".Mr. #1 Recruiter!
Easy to recruit for Bama. Not so much a small school in WV with little NIL funds.
Gotta have a better field coach and staff. That's the difference maker at our level.
Gotta have a better field coach and staff. That's the difference maker at our level.
He already tried that last year with that all gas, no brakes offense of his.
NIL didn't exist in 2021 and 2022. He wasn't recruiting well then either. He's lived off of Doc's recruiting and with each passing season as those guys have graduated out we've declined.
He can't recruit and he can't coach. Anyone that argues the contrary is blind.
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This has been repeated multiple times on here, and it's simply absurd.
Huff has worked with some of the top staffs and head coaches in the country: Alabama, Penn State, Mississippi State, the NFL . . . James Franklin, Nick Saban, Joe Moorhead. You don't think he has significant "staff connections" working with those head coaches and those staffs?
So why hasn't he brought anyone from PSU, Alabama, Mississippi State, etc.? Use some logic. Money and career trajectory. Even if he made a position coach from one of those schools into a coordinator at Marshall, they are almost assuredly looking at a salary decrease. The lowest paid Alabama assistant earned $350k last year. The lowest paid Mississippi State assistant earned $315k.
The highest paid Marshall assistants made $300k and $183k last year. So even if he took the lowest on the totem pole from those schools and somehow turned them into successful coordinators, he'd still have to get them to accept taking less money . . . with far less benefits and perks.
Compare that to Gerad Parker and what he did at Troy. He brought wvu's QB coach with him and made him the OC. He made $270k at wvu. He brought one of his best friends, Dontae Wright, from wvu and made him the DC. Dontae made $275k at wvu. Last year, Troy paid their coordinator $300k, more than both of those guys made at wvu AND gave them coordinator roles at Troy. Huff can't do the same, since the staffs he was on paid every single assistant more than Marshall's coordinators make.
Interesting that our first teamers are two midland boys. Both LOVE the HERD too. Respect the passion.
His staff overall has been less than stellar. I think even you posted your disappointment with a few hires. Trickett was a terrible hire as an example. Money certainly plays a factor; but Huff not having been an HC and having no experience in building a staff hasn't helped our cause. jmho
I thought many of them were questionable at best. That isn't due to him not having "staff connections" though. That was also before realizing just how low Marshall is paying.
There were 15 Sun Belt assistants who made < $100k. Marshall had 3 of the 15.
How many assistants did each Sun Belt team have who made $110k or less?
App: 1
Ark State: 3
Coastal: 2
Georgia Southern: 3
Georgia State: 2
JMU: 5
Louisiana: 0
ULM: 8
Marshall: 7
ODU: 0
South Alabama: 1
Southern Miss: 1
Texas State: 4
Troy: 0
Interesting to note that JMU has 5 coaches under 110K but yet they pretty much have dominated the league the last two years. X's and O's not Jimmies and Joes?
IDK, maybe you cant bring in some of those guys, but why not a Billy Fessler, somebody you have worked with? Somebody who had a good back ground as a GA, certainly he would have made more at MU as a full time coach than a GA at OSU. That's the kind of guy that surprised me Huff didnt bring in. I swear his agent hired most of the assistant coaches.
Billy Fessler - Wikipedia
Why would you want to bring somebody like Fessler to Marshall for his very first full-time job? Marshall shouldn't be an experimental job or a first full-time job, especially for the most important position on the field.IDK, maybe you cant bring in some of those guys, but why not a Billy Fessler, somebody you have worked with? Somebody who had a good back ground as a GA, certainly he would have made more at MU as a full time coach than a GA at OSU. That's the kind of guy that surprised me Huff didnt bring in. I swear his agent hired most of the assistant coaches.
Billy Fessler - Wikipedia
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How did Fessler do?
2023
Akron (QBs/OC):
279 yards of total offense/game
197 passing yards/game
10 TDs/16 INTs
126th offense out of 130 FBS teams
2-10 (1-7 in the MAC)
He had the same #1 and #2 QBs in 2023 that he did in 2022. They went backyards in production even if his starter only played half of the season.
What makes you think that a GA, no matter from what school, should get their first full-time job at Marshall? I coached with a bunch of former Ohio State GAs. They were coaching on offense while I was on defense. The two former Ohio State GAs were the two co-offensive coordinators. We finished dead last in offense in the Sun Belt. And that wasn't their first job. They had full-time jobs in the FCS before that, and they still got their teeth kicked in at the Sun Belt level.
Get guys who have proved themselves even if at the FCS level.
It was an example. Besides his first full time job was at Akron which no matter how much MU wants to resist it is on a similar plane. That said let’s face Joe Morehead ( sp?) runs the O show in Akron
Btw where is Billy now ? ( UCLA)
It just surprised me Huff didn’t have anyone on his staff he had worked w on the past
Marshall's program is significantly better than Akron's, both on the field and off.
He's a quality control coach on a very questionable UCLA staff. That's not a win. If he could go back to being Akron's OC instead of a QC anywhere, he would.
Sounds to me Chip brought him as QB coach only to be hung out to dry when Chip went to the Suckeyes. New guy made him an analyst
Billy Fessler Tabbed to Coach Quarterbacks at UCLA - UCLA
Former Akron offensive coordinator has helped coach two Heisman Trophy finalists and current NFL starting signal callers.
Yeah, that is what happens when you have only coached for two years and had some of the worst producing QBs in the country.
He was disappointed in hires of Guidry who was a great success here and is now at the U and critical of the Springer hire who was in NFL last I checked
Athlon has never done extensive research when they these types of articles. With so much roster turnover due to the Portal and NIL, there is no way to really project the standouts of many teams. This guy has a different view.
Moron, I said that Guidry fielded talented defenses, but regardless of how he performed at Marshall, his repeated off-field issues wasn’t worth it.
Springer was the worst special teams coach in the country when Marshall grabbed him. He wasn’t much better at Marshall. Being in the NFL means nothing. He was an assistant to the ST coordinator, which is a step down from a full-time FBS coordinator . . . and that NFL team was ranked as the worst special teams in the league.
but some how Springer is now the STC for the New England Patriots...
Please save your juvenile name calling for Pullman. So I was correct, you were disappointed in both of those hires. I'm just glad you were mistaken and the hires worked out.
He sure did. It's a good thing those with an incorrect opinion were not decision makers in the hiring and that their opinions were simply message board blather.
If you ever actually accomplished any position of success in your life, you’d know it’s just as much about who you know (or blow) as it is your actual production. That’s been the case for Springer his entire career: the absolute worst special teams production in all of FBS during his years at Arizona, followed by very average to below average production at Marshall, followed by assisting the worst special teams in the entire NFL.
These aren’t opinions. It isn’t subjective. It’s all supported by the most relevant special teams data.
“They” didn’t, moron.
Like I said prior to any results at Marshall, it didn’t matter how the defense performed. The risk, association, and acceptance of Guidry is not something Marshall should have been a part of.
You were wrong, we get it. You followed up being wrong with calling me a moron for accurately recalling your mistakes on Guidry and Springer. And you somehow take pride in your message board posting prowess?? 😆😆😆
You purposely misrepresented why I was against the Guidry hire, since you were responding to the poster who was claiming that many of the hires were bad due to their inability to produce. But you knew that already. It was just you being a moron again.
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