Brooks Koepka

[GK4Herd]

So I’m doing a stroll through golf articles and I just wasn’t prepared for the article I pulled up. Brooks Koepka...what the everlasting...?

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/br...n-while-on-vacation-with-girlfriend-jena-sims

 

[countryroads89]

 

[GreenDuke]

I just can’t imagine Jack and Barbara doing that.

 

[herdfan06]

 

[GK4Herd]

Yeah...I should of given warning. This is a golf digest article too. I did not expect to see that. But to keep with modern vernacular...no homo.

 

[i am herdman]

Acting queer is the new acceptable. I am not saying he is queer, but acting that way(and maybe he is queer) is now hip.

 

[herdfan429]

I’m sure rifle will come on claiming that it’s some new aged underwear from nordstrom’s That all the hip celebs are now wearing

 

[GK4Herd]

I think what really needs mentioned is his girlfriend Jenna Sims. The former beauty queen has become quite the actress starring in heavy hitting roles such as Attack of the 50 Foot Cheerleader and Sharknado 5.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

I’m sure rifle will come on claiming that it’s some new aged underwear from nordstrom’s That all the hip celebs are now wearing

You're still trying way too hard. It isn't creative, humorous, or entertaining in the least. And why do you think about me so much?

I think what really needs mentioned is his girlfriend Jenna Sims. The former beauty queen has become quite the actress starring in heavy hitting roles such as Attack of the 50 Foot Cheerleader and Sharknado 5.

We went over this last year. She gets topless in all of her movies which are basically soft-porn flicks:

https://marshall.forums.rivals.com/threads/anyone-watching-pga.39925/#post-553883

 

[countryroads89]

Yeah...I should of given warning. This is a golf digest article too. I did not expect to see that. But to keep with modern vernacular...no homo.

The “Cmon man” was directed at Brooks, not you.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Acting queer is the new acceptable. I am not saying he is queer, but acting that way(and maybe he is queer) is now hip.

If fvcking Jena Sims makes one gay, I'd take being queer as a three dollar bill.

I think they are both trolling the hell out of people. You play 18 with him, he's probably going to tell you that you'd look great in a thong too lol.

 

[i am herdman]

Speaking of Brooks. We had a big discussion the other day. If Brooks and a 12 handicap went to a course with with a back tee rating of 74.6 and a slope of 140(7200 yards) and a regular Men's Tee of 71.1 and 131 slope at 6300 yards. If he played the back and the 12 played the regular men's tees and spotted the 12 cap 25 strokes could the 12 cap beat him? You have to putt everything out and play by the rules, etc. The USGA course calculator says a 12 cap should get about 14 strokes during a net tournament. Greens are not PGA tour fast, running about a 10. Rough is normal for the course, nothing like US Open.

Brooks has never seen the course. The 12 cap plays it a few times a year and knows it . One round, winner take all.

 

[GreenDuke]

Speaking of Brooks. We had a big discussion the other day. If Brooks and a 12 handicap went to a course with with a back tee rating of 74.6 and a slope of 140(7200 yards) and a regular Men's Tee of 71.1 and 131 slope at 6300 yards. If he played the back and the 12 played the regular men's tees and spotted the 12 cap 25 strokes could the 12 cap beat him? You have to putt everything out and play by the rules, etc. The USGA course calculator says a 12 cap should get about 14 strokes during a net tournament. Greens are not PGA tour fast, running about a 10. Rough is normal for the course, nothing like US Open.

Brooks has never seen the course. The 12 cap plays it a few times a year and knows it . One round, winner take all.

Yeah I’d beat him, 25 shots Lol. Speed up the greens, faster the better. But I get to set the pins. Heck I might play the back tees, I’ll shot 81-82 from there and he will need to shoot low 50’s to win.
I will make sure he doesn’t think it’s a major. ;-)))

 

[GK4Herd]

The “Cmon man” was directed at Brooks, not you.

I was a little paranoid posting it because of the “Cmon man” feeling that went through me when I clicked the link and saw that picture. A little warning would of gone a long way. Lol.

 

[i am herdman]

Yeah I’d beat him, 25 shots Lol. Speed up the greens, faster the better. But I get to set the pins. Heck I might play the back tees, I’ll shot 81-82 from there and he will need to shoot low 50’s to win.
I will make sure he doesn’t think it’s a major. ;-)))

But are you a 12? A 12 should shoot around 87 to 91 or so on that course on a good average day. If you are lower than a 12 we lower your number of shots you get. I stated for a 12 handicap. Low 80's from the men's tee is not a 12 on average or it would be a stellar day for a 12, below his average.

 

[GreenDuke]

But are you a 12? A 12 should shoot around 87 to 91 or so on that course on a good average day. If you are lower than a 12 we lower your number of shots you get. I stated for a 12 handicap. Low 80's from the men's tee is not a 12 on average or it would be a stellar day for a 12, below his average.

I don’t have an established handicap, I probably play 40-50 courses a year and never think about a handicap.
I’ll take six or seven a side and win from any tee. Generally my benchmark for what tee box is appropriate is par four holes under 460, as that would be the max for me to reach the green in regulation. but for my weekly round we usually play the 6,000-6,300 tee box.

 

[i am herdman]

I don’t have an established handicap, I probably play 40-50 courses a year and never think about a handicap.
I’ll take six or seven a side and win from any tee. Generally my benchmark for what tee box is appropriate is par four holes under 460, as that would be the max for me to reach the green in regulation. but for my weekly round we usually play the 6,000-6,300 tee box.

So what do you shoot on avg? My guess is that Brooks, not seeing the course, he shows up at the range and hits a few balls on the course that I mentioned is going to fire mid to upper 60's from the tips. And, he could go low 60's(he definitely would after playing it a couple times) he is going to destroy the par 5's and eat up many of the par 4's and they hit the ball so far that he could hit irons or 3 woods off the tee(to stay out of trouble). I believe the course record is 61 or 62 from the tips. So, Brooks is better than that guy I am sure. But, that is knowing the course and a one rounder. But, it is hard to go much lower.

Let's say Brooks shoots a 66. The 12 handicapper would need to fire a 91. But, the 12 handicapper is going to have to putt everything and count all penalties. No gimme's and you have to count your strokes. No rolling the ball for a better lie, etc.

12 handicapper is going to be hard pressed to beat him.

If I give you 7 a side, you need to be ready to shoot a 80 and play by the rules. That means you are probably single digits. 80 might not get it done. A good D1 golfer can go in the mid 60's on that type of course, from the tips.

 

[GK4Herd]

I think the point herdman is making is most people’s handicap is way higher than the score they credit themselves for. So a person who claims a 12 handicap because their average score is 84 isn’t taking into account they average it on courses that don’t have high slope ratings or aren’t set up with roughs and greens like pro golfers experience. Also, many casual golfers insert several of the following: Two off the first tee, distance on OB, not playing it down, gimme putts, etc.

But I get where Duke is coming from. If you legitimately shoot around 80 without the liberties mentioned, no way a pro can give you that many strokes.

 

[i am herdman]

I think the point herdman is making is most people’s handicap is way higher than the score they credit themselves for. So a person who claims a 12 handicap because their average score is 84 isn’t taking into account they average it on courses that don’t have high slope ratings or aren’t set up with roughs and greens like pro golfers experience. Also, many casual golfers insert several of the following: Two off the first tee, distance on OB, not playing it down, gimme putts, etc.

But I get where Duke is coming from. If you legitimately shoot around 80 without the liberties mentioned, no way a pro can give you that many strokes.

Oh I agree. The 12 strokes was for a legit 12 handicap. On a course with that slope rating.

In a net tournament, the 12 is going to get 14 strokes on that course. So to shoot even is going to have to shoot 86 and that is a very good score for the 12 on that course. But, the 12 is not going to get any gimme putts. No rolling the ball, and has to count all penalties. That's going to add 5 strokes at least right there to what he gets playing with his buddies. Brooks is going to go shoot a mid 60's to 68 or so(maybe lower).

At 68, the 12 is going to have shoot a legit tournament rules 93. Plus, take into account he is playing Brooks.

I know a course with that slope rating and the kid working the bag drop is a D1 golfer and he has shot a 63 on that course from the tips. A casual round with his foursome. So what would Brooks do?

The 12 getting 25 strokes is going to have his hands full and all he bargained for.

Brooks is probably a +6 or +7 handicap and the 12 is a minus 12. 7200 yards is short for brooks as well. He could hit 2 or 3 iron off the tee and eat it up if he had to. So, Brooks is already 20 shots or so better anyway(easy). Throw in the rules and the 12 being nervous.

I will take some side action for $50 and bet on Brooks.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

I always enjoy the blurbs in the HD where the 78 year old shot his age at Riviera. They don't tell you it's with his handicap. That's not media worthy.

 

[GreenDuke]

So what do you shoot on avg? My guess is that Brooks, not seeing the course, he shows up at the range and hits a few balls on the course that I mentioned is going to fire mid to upper 60's from the tips. And, he could go low 60's(he definitely would after playing it a couple times) he is going to destroy the par 5's and eat up many of the par 4's and they hit the ball so far that he could hit irons or 3 woods off the tee(to stay out of trouble). I believe the course record is 61 or 62 from the tips. So, Brooks is better than that guy I am sure. But, that is knowing the course and a one rounder. But, it is hard to go much lower.

Let's say Brooks shoots a 66. The 12 handicapper would need to fire a 91. But, the 12 handicapper is going to have to putt everything and count all penalties. No gimme's and you have to count your strokes. No rolling the ball for a better lie, etc.

12 handicapper is going to be hard pressed to beat him.

If I give you 7 a side, you need to be ready to shoot a 80 and play by the rules. That means you are probably single digits. 80 might not get it done. A good D1 golfer can go in the mid 60's on that type of course, from the tips.

Low score this year 71, high score 85 on a course I had never seen.
Oh I play by the rules, I played at a decent amateur level for years and learned a long time ago if you play the ball as it lies you will become a better ball striker.
I really doubt BK would be interested in a blood match with an old man such as myself.

 

[GreenDuke]

I always enjoy the blurbs in the HD where the 78 year old shot his age at Riviera. They don't tell you it's with his handicap. That's not media worthy.

I know several of those guys and the score is gross not net.
But here is where I get a chuckle regarding these scores. Most of them are playing forward tees on an already short layout, some take preferred lies, don’t understand the rules of penalties, and my personal favorite many change balls when they putt. Lol.
If you’re not on at least the regular men’s tee box then to me it doesn’t count.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

I know several of those guys and the score is gross not net.
But here is where I get a chuckle regarding these scores. Most of them are playing forward tees on an already short layout, some take preferred lies, don’t understand the rules of penalties, and my personal favorite many change balls when they putt. Lol.
If you’re not on at least the regular men’s tee box then to me it doesn’t count.

I would have to see it to believe they aren't fudging in some form or fashion. To play by the rules as strictly as we should, most would be hard pressed to break 90 or so. Not improving ones lie, changing balls, hitting OB, mulligans, etc.
But that would take all the fun out of it. LOL!

 

[i am herdman]

Low score this year 71, high score 85 on a course I had never seen.
Oh I play by the rules, I played at a decent amateur level for years and learned a long time ago if you play the ball as it lies you will become a better ball striker.
I really doubt BK would be interested in a blood match with an old man such as myself.

I will give you 12 strokes against BK

 

[GreenDuke]

I would have to see it to believe they aren't fudging in some form or fashion. To play by the rules as strictly as we should, most would be hard pressed to break 90 or so. Not improving ones lie, changing balls, hitting OB, mulligans, etc.
But that would take all the fun out of it. LOL!

One important thing to remember. These guys play the course almost everyday weather permitting. They know every blade of grass and every break on the greens. They can play this course in the dark.

 

[countryroads89]

I would have to see it to believe they aren't fudging in some form or fashion. To play by the rules as strictly as we should, most would be hard pressed to break 90 or so. Not improving ones lie, changing balls, hitting OB, mulligans, etc.
But that would take all the fun out of it. LOL!

There are plenty of older golfers who play well and frequently shoot their age. They hit the ball straight, keep it in the fairway and they chip and put well.