California minimum wage shocks fast food workers as restaurant closes: 'Only the beginning,' ex-manager warns

[raleighherdfan]

I earned it.

Not according to your ilk. "The govt made it happen for you" (sound familiar?)

You saying the ceos are not capable of flipping burgers? Idiot.

If that's what you want your CEO doing in a business you have ownership in...go for it. You would be an idiot if the desire is profit and growth. You wont be around long as a real business. Something you know a lot about... ultimately turning it into a paid hobby.

 

[extragreen]

Not according to your ilk. "The govt made it happen for you" (sound familiar?)

You're a lying idiot.

If that's what you want your CEO doing in a business you have ownership in...go for it. You would be an idiot if the desire is profit and growth. You wont be around long as a real business. Something you know a lot about... ultimately turning it into a paid hobby.

Yeah. "I wouldn't be around long." But since you were in diapers.

 

[mlblack16.]

Not according to your ilk. "The govt made it happen for you" (sound familiar?)


If that's what you want your CEO doing in a business you have ownership in...go for it. You would be an idiot if the desire is profit and growth. You wont be around long as a real business. Something you know a lot about... ultimately turning it into a paid hobby.

Lucky for Greed, cabinetry is an industry that price gouges to the point it should be regulated. It's too niche of a profession that gives them all the leverage they need to charge tens of thousands for a few hours of labor and a couple grand worth of materials.

There is NOTHING about fvcking cabinets that should make them worth the cost. The only way I'm going to pay faggits like GREED $40K to install cabinets is if they come with $30K stuffed inside.

 

[extragreen]

The only way I'm going to pay faggits like GREED $40K to install cabinets is if they come with $30K stuffed inside.

I wouldn't knowingly install 1 cabinet for Godless lying trumptards like you for $1,000,000.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Lucky for Greed, cabinetry is an industry that price gouges to the point it should be regulated. It's too niche of a profession that gives them all the leverage they need to charge tens of thousands for a few hours of labor and a couple grand worth of materials.

There is NOTHING about fvcking cabinets that should make them worth the cost. The only way I'm going to pay faggits like GREED $40K to install cabinets is if they come with $30K stuffed inside.

I remember him several years ago, complaining about the big boys in his sector and retailers like HD and Low selling them "cheap". His inability to compete, most likely drove him to dumping his team of employees and go to the paying hobby he enjoys now.

Instead of looking for ways to grow and potentially build an asset that he could build for the betterment of his staff and community, he threw his hands up and said, "I'm moving on by myself without you". Again, that's fine, but reading him lecture others on how business is run, or should be run, is diabolically ignorant.

Today he is painfully attempting to compare a business model that requires 20-25 a day to manage effectively (1 fast food location) to his 1 man operation that may take months to produce a single job to completion???? GTFO..

 

[extragreen]

His inability to compete...

...for 37 years.

most likely allowed him to semi retire at his convenience

yep

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Yeah. That's what he meant. Because we all know an entry level job at NASA is the same as flipping burgers. 🙄

What? I'm pretty sure he didn't mean "an entry level job at NASA".

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Here’s the problem - yes we subsidize these workers with welfare, however, if you paid them more so we didn’t have to have that subsidy would our taxes decrease? Of course not. So we keep paying higher taxes and more for food.

Would you rather pay taxes to subsidize fast food and Walmart, or build roads and pay down the debt?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Are we talking entry level nurse or entry level cashier? No skill required entry level jobs should not be paying enough to put a roof over your head.

Should all "no-skill" jobs be done by the homeless? I don't want a side of hepatitis with my burger.

Or should all that do these jobs be forced to be homeless?

Cons: complain about the homeless, yet want to create more of them.

 

[30CAT]

So should we assume all entry level jobs should not pay enough to, you know, survive?

What? I'm pretty sure he didn't mean "an entry level job at NASA".

You said all entry level jobs. Face it. Flipping burgers wasn't meant to be a job to support oneself or a family. Democrats are trying to force burger joints to make it so. They will fail, as they should.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Flipping burgers wasn't meant to be a job to support oneself or a family

So should fast food joints only be open during non-school hours? I'm going to be pretty pissed if I can't get a breakfast burrito on Friday mornings.

 

[30CAT]

So should fast food joints only be open during non-school hours? I'm going to be pretty pissed if I can't get a breakfast burrito on Friday mornings.

No. Why should they?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

No. Why should they?

Jobs for kids only.

 

[raleighherdfan]

So should fast food joints only be open during non-school hours? I'm going to be pretty pissed if I can't get a breakfast burrito on Friday mornings.

Public Schools have "hours"?? Between the block schedules, teacher "work" days, calendar holidays, bus drivers not showing up, fraudulent lockdown-class cancelation policy, etc. the public schools here rarely open for an entire week of classes (and thats the elementary and middle school level). The high schoolers have even more flexibility in their education "requirements", which allows them to "work" (sleep in and scroll social media).

 

[30CAT]

Jobs for kids only.

Anyone looking to make a little extra money. They are very flexible with their hours. I did it, a long with a primary job.

Easy, extra money.

 

[30CAT]

Public Schools have "hours"?? Between the block schedules, teacher "work" days, calendar holidays, bus drivers not showing up, fraudulent lockdown-class cancelation policy, etc. the public schools here rarely open for an entire week of classes (and thats the elementary and middle school level). The high schoolers have even more flexibility in their education "requirements", which allows them to "work" (sleep in and scroll social media).

Exactly. And take a look at some of the employees as well. Several work certain hours on top of their retirement income.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Public Schools have "hours"??

This has nothing to do with disputing the myth that only kids work fast food.

Anyone looking to make a little extra money.

Limiting one's hiring pool to only people looking for a few hours is a hell of a good way to experience business failure.

Understand, you Eer dumbass, I'm not saying fast food workers should live well. We have shitty neighborhoods and apartments for a reason.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Limiting one's hiring pool to only people looking for a few hours is a hell of a good way to experience business failure.

You ever been in a chick fil a or In and Out Burger?

And no one is suggesting that a very small % of “fast food” jobs should not be full time pay with benefits (pssst, they already are). But the idea that EVERYONE working at one of these jobs should make $20+hour because they have to support a family etc is ludicrous.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

But the idea that EVERYONE working at one of these jobs should make $20+hour because they have to support a family etc is ludicrous.

I am not arguing for $20 hr.

I am here to mock those who think these are all kids working fast food.

I will mock anyone that thinks a full time job shouldn't afford enough pay to simply survive. And I am really tired of welfare subsidizing the rich.

 

[30CAT]

This has nothing to do with disputing the myth that only kids work fast food.

Limiting one's hiring pool to only people looking for a few hours is a hell of a good way to experience business failure.

Understand, you Eer dumbass, I'm not saying fast food workers should live well. We have shitty neighborhoods and apartments for a reason.

You're the one who says McDonald's workers should make a living wage and it's just not going to, nor should it happen.

BTW....I don't follow sports anymore.

 

[30CAT]

I am not arguing for $20 hr.

I am here to mock those who think these are all kids working fast food.

I will mock anyone that thinks a full time job shouldn't afford enough pay to simply survive. And I am really tired of welfare subsidizing the rich.

Who says they are all kids? Fast food can't pay what Demmies think they should and make it worth it.

Are there full time McDonald's workers? I know there used to be until this minimum wage BS. Now instead of a fee full-time workers, they hire a bunch of part-time workers, so they don't have to pay benefits. I personally know a parent whose child works 8 hours a week at a local pizza joint. What's the point?

Democrats have a way of screwing everyone and their constituents applaud them. Who the hell, in their right mind, ever thought anyone could male a living wage flipping burgers?

Dumbass and socialist, Bernie Sanders and his bleaters, that’s who.

 

[raleighherdfan]

I will mock anyone that thinks a full time job shouldn't afford enough pay to simply survive.

I’ll ask again, you ever been in a chick fil a or in and out? It’s mostly part time kids, occasional part time retired with 1-2 full timers mixed in.

That’s the fast food world and was never considered a full time long term gig in years past….not until Dems needed votes.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

it's just not going to, nor should it happen.

Cool, we can just keep on subsidizing the better odds and even the filthy rich, with welfare for their workers. You know, that thing you all used to hate.

BTW....I don't follow sports anymore.

Weirdo.

Who says they are all kids?

Cons.

Are there full time McDonald's workers? I know there used to be until this minimum wage BS.

The Fair Labor Standards Act was passed in 1938.

McDonald's was founded in 1940.

Moron.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

I’ll ask again, you ever been in a chick fil a or in and out?

In N Out doesn't exist in my world.

Jesus Chicken, sure...for lunch on a weekday and rarely in the summer...well, not anymore, the nearest one is in Joplin. It's old people. They should also be homeless, working a job like that....and probably will be when your type cuts Social Security. Hurrah!

 

[30CAT]

Weirdo.

Nah. Most sports have been ruined. I now only watch UFC. College sports started going bad with ESPN's conference realignment, then it went to shit with the transfer rules. Then once they started paying players, it reached a point of no return. It's just another pro sport.

The Fair Labor Standards Act was passed in 1938.

McDonald's was founded in 1940.

Moron.

And? Who pushed for raising minimum wage to skilled labor wages for unskilled labor jobs? Bernie and the boys. Now fast food workers are making less, though it created "more jobs"....Now they hire more people so they don't have to pay benefits. Less hours for all, less take-home pay.

Dumbass.

 

[mlblack16.]

Then once they started paying players, it reached a point of no return. It's just another pro sport

Whole different topic, but considering how much potential money is up for grabs by 18 year old kids, I can see this or at least some variant trickling down into the HS level to the point that even HS freshman will have agents and large high schools will start paying players.

I'm sure this already happens in a much smaller level at high schools in states like TX, but, as of now, it's being done secretively, just like it was in college, before they made it official.

 

[extragreen]

Who pushed for raising minimum wage to skilled labor wages for unskilled labor jobs?

That's because those skilled labor wages are too low. Not because the unskilled labor is too high. You Godless lying trumptard. Just admit you'd rather your taxes go to subsidizing poor workers rather than companies having to pay a living wage.

 

[30CAT]

That's because those skilled labor wages are too low. Not because the unskilled labor is too high. You Godless lying trumptard. Just admit you'd rather your taxes go to subsidizing poor workers rather than companies having to pay a living wage.

A family of four illegal foreign nationals, in New York City, receives more monthly funding than a family of four American citizens, that includes a military veteran, who receives disability compensation.

Shut your whore mouth.

 

[extragreen]

A family of four illegal foreign nationals, in New York City, receives more monthly funding than a family of four American citizens, that includes a military veteran, who receives disability compensation.

Shut your whore mouth.

That's because those skilled labor wages are too low. Not because the unskilled labor is too high. You Godless lying trumptard. Just admit you'd rather your taxes go to subsidizing poor workers rather than companies having to pay a living wage.

 

[30CAT]

That's because those skilled labor wages are too low.

So us paying wages, housing, food and education to illegal foreign nationals and paying them.more than we pay disabled veterans, is because skilled labor wages are too low?

You, sir, are a lying dumbass, dumbass.

Also, a skilled laborer, like say, an insulator, is paid over $40 an hour, plus health insurance, plus pension/retirement...30 years and out.

You're saying that's too low?

 

[extragreen]

So us paying wages, housing, food and education to illegal foreign nationals and paying them.more than we pay disabled veterans, is because skilled labor wages are too low?

Is the disabled veteran getting too little, or the illegal foreign nationals too much?

Also, a skilled laborer, like say, an insulator, is paid over $40 an hour.

The average hourly wage for insulators is $26.55. That's $20,000 less per year than the median household income provided they work 40 hours per week every week.

You Godless lying idiot who believes your orange jesus is a man of faith.

 

[30CAT]

Is the disabled veteran getting too little, or the illegal foreign nationals too much?

Are you insane? Illegal foreign nationals shouldn't get a damned dime

The average hourly wage for insulators is $26.55. That's $20,000 less per year than the median household income provided they work 40 hours per week every week.

You Godless lying idiot who believes your orange jesus is a man of faith.

Now you're in my field, dumbass. I know for a fact, an apprentice insulator starts out between $20-$30 an hour. A four-year apprentice makes at least $30 an hour. I work with insulators making $45 an hour. We pay $90 an hour for an insulator, because we must cover their retirement as well.

You're averaging all levels, which include apprentices. Lots of them don't work out, which is why there are apprenticeships. Just stop talking. You don't know shit.

Damn, you're a dumbass.

 

[30CAT]

Also...Look up what Local 80 union insulators make. Then look at what insulators are paid in different states/cities. Trust me, unless they're stupid, they don't struggle.

 

[WVUSerg]

Are you insane? Illegal foreign nationals shouldn't get a damned dime



Now you're in my field, dumbass. I know for a fact, an apprentice insulator starts out between $20-$30 an hour. A four-year apprentice makes at least $30 an hour. I work with insulators making $45 an hour. We pay $90 an hour for an insulator, because we must cover their retirement as well.

You're averaging all levels, which include apprentices. Lots of them don't work out, which is why there are apprenticeships. Just stop talking. You don't know shit.

Damn, you're a dumbass.

I thought about taking him off ignore just to argue with him, but I'm sure it's the same B's he always posts.

" lying godless trumptard"

 

[30CAT]

I thought about taking him off ignore just to argue with him, but I'm sure it's the same B's he always posts.

" lying godless trumptard"

I have never put someone on ignore and he's not worthy .

Believe me, I've been close, but can't do it. It's too fun exposing his lying and stupidity.