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conservative minister admits sexual encounter with teen - conservative congregation cheers

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On Dec. 1, as headlines across the country blared with news about Matt Lauer’s surprise firing from the “Today” show for sexual misconduct, a woman named Jules Woodson tapped out a short email. It ran only about 80 words but was nearly 20 years in the making. “Do you remember?” the subject line read.

“Do you remember that night that you were supposed to drive me home from church and instead drove me to a deserted back road and sexually assaulted me?” Woodson wrote. “Do you remember how you acted like you loved me and cared about me in order for me to cooperate in such acts,

In a message on the church’s website, he admitted to a “sexual incident” with a high school student at the time. Highpoint’s main pastor, Chris Conlee, also released a statement supporting Savage. And last Sunday, the pastor addressed his congregation about the allegations, but provided little detail.

As Savage finished his remarks, he was greeted with a 20-second standing ovation from Highpoint’s congregation.

“It was dark outside,” Woodson wrote. “As he was driving me toward my home, he passed the turn he should have made to go to my house. I asked him where he was going. I don’t remember his exact response, but it was something along the lines of ‘you’ll see’ or ‘it’s a surprise.’ I know for sure he did not tell me where he was taking me. I remember feeling special and excited, as in my mind, he obviously wanted to spend more time with me before taking me home. I assumed we were going to get ice cream.”

Savage pulled into an isolated area and parked the car. He then exposed himself to Woodson and had her perform oral sex on him, she said. Savage also fondled her breasts, Woodson wrote. After five minutes, Savage abruptly stopped. “I remember him pleading, while he was on his knees with his hands up on his head, ‘Oh my god, oh my god. What have I done? Oh my god, I’m so sorry. You can’t tell anyone Jules, please. You have to take this to the grave with you,” Woodson wrote. “My fear and shame quickly turned to anger. I had just been manipulated and used. I swore to him I wouldn’t tell anyone just to get him to stop,” she added. “We both got back in the truck. As he drove me home, I don’t remember there being any conversation. I was in shock.”

Even though she was consumed by “fear, shame, anger and hurt,” Woodson told church leaders about the incident. They told her not to speak to Savage while they handled the situation. But the church took no action. Woodson then confided what had happened to other women in the congregation. Finally, the church’s leaders announced Savage was leaving.

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He was wrong, she was wrong. Everyone, everyone, commits wrong. Every day.
 
So she slobbered his knob and they have to talk about it 20 years later. OKKKKKK

You have to tell the whole church?

Strange
 
He was wrong, she was wrong. Everyone, everyone, commits wrong. Every day.

I would not assume she was wrong. She may have felt pressured (the ol' "put out or get out" routine may have been somewhat at play). No one should pressure any one into sexual activity. On the flip side, I knew girls in church when I was her age that would have known exactly what they were doing if they were to give the youth minister a BJ...and they would have thought they were hot shit for doing so. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.
 
I would not assume she was wrong. She may have felt pressured (the ol' "put out or get out" routine may have been somewhat at play). No one should pressure any one into sexual activity. On the flip side, I knew girls in church when I was her age that would have known exactly what they were doing if they were to give the youth minister a BJ...and they would have thought they were hot shit for doing so. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

She apparently agrees with me....."Even though she was consumed by “fear, shame, anger and hurt,"
 
Those are pretty common feelings after a sexual assault. And make no mistake: using your influence/power to coerce someone into sex is assault.

"“Do you remember how you acted like you loved me and cared about me in order for me to cooperate in such acts,"

I don't see any claim of force or threats involved here, so no coercion. Lying, deception...sure.
 
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"“Do you remember how you acted like you loved me and cared about me in order for me to cooperate in such acts,"

I don't see any claim of force or threats involved here, so no coercion. Lying, deception...sure.

Force or threats are not necessary for sexual assault. Cooperate is a strange word to use, one does not have to be willing to cooperate, you just give in to someone else's demands. His position of power and influence over her, and maybe the ol' put out or get out, makes it corrosive and assault (there are states that legally would call using his position as her minister assault). But again, I am not going to crucify the guy for it...I just would not be as quick as you to equally place guilt.
 
Way I see it, no illegal activity in this case whatsoever. None. No assault, no harassment, no coercion. I see it as consensual sex on both sides. The "wrong" I'm referring to is simply that both sinned.
 
The law is not the only definition of sexual assault. It wasn't until 1993 that raping your wife was illegal in all 50 states.

You need to get woke on this topic, or turn in your liberal card.
The scoentologist in him refuses to acknowledge what sexual assault really is.
 
The law is not the only definition of sexual assault. It wasn't until 1993 that raping your wife was illegal in all 50 states.

You need to get woke on this topic, or turn in your liberal card.

I fully awake. You've offered nothing and the woman in question has offered nothing to substantiate sexual assault, coercion, or sexual harassment. Fact.
 
I fully awake. You've offered nothing and the woman in question has offered nothing to substantiate sexual assault, coercion, or sexual harassment. Fact.

Telling a female you are taking her home, driving her out to nowhere without her prior consent, and then wanting sex is most definitely coercive. As usual, you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
Telling a female you are taking her home, driving her out to nowhere without her prior consent, and then wanting sex is most definitely coercive. As usual, you are arguing for the sake of arguing.

No, it is not coercive. She cooperated, her words. She mentioned nothing about coercion, force, etc. As usual you're arguing without any facts for a basis.
 
No, it is not coercive. She cooperated, her words. She mentioned nothing about coercion, force, etc. As usual you're arguing without any facts for a basis.

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