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Criticizing Trump

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It's been made aware to me that I don't criticize Trump enough.

Trump is unstable.

Trump is illogical and without consistent or rational decision making that can be easily followed from day-to-day.

Trump surrounds himself with ethically compromised people, and is so himself.

Trump himself is not a social conservative, either by belief or action.

Still rather in the binary political situation of the States have him than Hillary, primarily because the presidency today is functionally an elected monarch, as the separation of powers is a myth, rather than fact thanks to the web of entanglements whereby most of the legislative decisions are made within the executive branch.
 
It's been made aware to me that I don't criticize Trump enough.

Trump is unstable.

Trump is illogical and without consistent or rational decision making that can be easily followed from day-to-day.

Trump surrounds himself with ethically compromised people, and is so himself.

Trump himself is not a social conservative, either by belief or action.

Still rather in the binary political situation of the States have him than Hillary, primarily because the presidency today is functionally an elected monarch, as the separation of powers is a myth, rather than fact thanks to the web of entanglements whereby most of the legislative decisions are made within the executive branch.

If he is indeed the first three things I cannot understand how anyone would prefer him over Hillary Clinton, or even a random person off the street. She's only one out of the first three. Hell, some of you here are only the first two...and like Meatloaf sang, two out of three ain't bad.
 
If he is indeed the first three things I cannot understand how anyone would prefer him over Hillary Clinton, or even a random person off the street. She's only one out of the first three. Hell, some of you here are only the first two...and like Meatloaf sang, two out of three ain't bad.
Hillary clinton is a spawn of Satan. Perhaps, the worst political figure of my lifetime.
 
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Hillary clinton is a spawn of Satan. Perhaps, the worst political figure of my lifetime.

Trump might be Lucifer himself. She's as crooked as the day is long, but Trump is making her look like an amateur.

Look, I'd rather have you, keeper, hell even myself in the White House. But this SOB is taking bullshit to a new level.
 
Because of the last paragraph. If we are going to have an unstable person as a monarch I'd rather have the one who will accidentally do things I like.
 
Because of the last paragraph. If we are going to have an unstable person as a monarch I'd rather have the one who will accidentally do things I like.

The flip side is he will accidentally do things we do not like...let's hope one of those things doesn't involve mushroom clouds.

And I don't think Hillary is the least bit unstable. She is cold, calculating, and yes pretty damn crooked. But she's all there.
 
Let's be honest about something. Trump isn't going to get us in a real shooting war, let alone a nuclear one.

It's not happening.
Are you saying Trump is the equivalent of a guy driving a huge pickup truck sitting 5 feet off the ground?
 
The flip side is he will accidentally do things we do not like...let's hope one of those things doesn't involve mushroom clouds.

And I don't think Hillary is the least bit unstable. She is cold, calculating, and yes pretty damn crooked. But she's all there.

Maybe this is why Trump is slightly the better option? There's no one alive more war hawkish than Hillary. She might not push the nuke button but she may have pressed the 'un-stabilize the 3rd world button'. She could have turned NK into another Syria or Libya.

Trump has enough critics on his own side, let alone the D's, to stop some major fvck up. Hillary doesn't, and that could be much more dangerous.
 
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Maybe this is why Trump is slightly the better option? There's no one alive more war hawkish than Hillary. She might not push the nuke button but she may have pressed the 'un-stabilize the 3rd world button'. She could have turned NK into another Syria or Libya.

That's what we do. There's money to be made destabilizing the shitholes, especially ones with oil.

I don't think she would have done shit to NK. Too much money to be made the other way, with "free" trade with Asia.
 
That's what we do. There's money to be made destabilizing the shitholes, especially ones with oil.

I'm taking a sharp turn here. I've always wondered about Trump appointing Perry to the DoE. Was it calculated or just two peas in a pod? The DoE has a formidable IC, capable on it's own to destabilize oil rich regions. A lot of people don't know about that branch of DoE. They hide behind their own moniker, just like our Embassy personnel. Perry seems like a Mini-Me of Trump, but he has connections within SOF (mostly SEALs, which I have issues with). It's worth exploring, I'll ask around.
 
If he is indeed the first three things I cannot understand how anyone would prefer him over Hillary Clinton, or even a random person off the street. She's only one out of the first three. Hell, some of you here are only the first two...and like Meatloaf sang, two out of three ain't bad.

Hillary is a nasty, despisable old cvnt. Fvck her and the pant suits she rode in wearing. I couldn't find one single positive thing she claimed she would accomplish as president that I believed in.

So then you will ask, "well then why did you vote for Trump?" Cause fvck Hillary, that's why.
 
Any grown man that would prefer Hillary, Bernie, or any liberal for that matter, over the field has serious problems.

Why would I, as a grown man, want someone who wants to take the lion’s share of my hard earned money, or my constitutionally guaranteed firearms of choice (both of which affect, either directly or indirectly, my ability to take care of my family)?

Why would a grown man want his hard earned money to go to pay for border crossers who don’t respect our laws for entry into this country, let alone our other laws?

Why would a grown man want to pay for the drug habits of some loser down the street who can’t keep a needle out of his or her arm?

At some point boys have to become men. You learn that fairy tales are fake and certain ways of thinking simply don’t work in real life. That’s why most of the older generation, regardless of their beliefs when they were young, historically support republicans.
 
big country for the win.

these simple minded indoctrinated leftist are unbelievable - no hope
 
It's been made aware to me that I don't criticize Trump enough.

Trump is unstable.

Trump is illogical and without consistent or rational decision making that can be easily followed from day-to-day.

Trump surrounds himself with ethically compromised people, and is so himself.

Trump himself is not a social conservative, either by belief or action.

Still rather in the binary political situation of the States have him than Hillary, primarily because the presidency today is functionally an elected monarch, as the separation of powers is a myth, rather than fact thanks to the web of entanglements whereby most of the legislative decisions are made within the executive branch.

YOU'D BETTER STOP CRITICIZING TRUMP - YOU FOOL. TRUMP IS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT
WE HAVE EVER HAD BETTER THAN WASHINGTON BETTER THAN LINCOLN BETTER THAN ROOSEVELT.
HE HAD THE BIGGEST CROWED EVER TO WITNESS AN INAUGURATION, HE WOULD HAVE WON THE
POPULAR VOTE IF THE DEMOCRATS HADNT BROUGHT IN TRAINLOADS OF MEXICANS FROM CANADA.

HE IS HONEST AND TRUTHFUL AND GENEROUS. EVERYONE KEEPS LYING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP
SAYING HIS SON AND CAMPAIGN STAFF MET WITH RUSSIAN SPIES TO STEAL THE ELECTION. THAT
HE IS DOING PUTINS WORK FOR HIM, THAT HE IS PULLING US OUT OF TREATIES AND ALLIANCES AND
ALLOWING CHINA TO FILL THE VOIDS HE IS LEAVING. THAT HE IS FAVORING CHINEESE COMPANIES
LIKE ZTE OVER AMERICAN JOBS AND SECURITY. THAT HIS TAXCUT FOR BILLIONAIRES DOESNT HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS. THAT HE IS INTERESTED IN NOTHING BUT PROMOTING
HIS SELF AND WEATH. HELLS FIRE EVERYONE KNOWS DJT DOESNT EVEN LIKE MONEY.

THE FBI, THE JUSTICE DEPT, THE CIA, THE DEFENSE DEPT. ALL SHOULD STOP TELLING LIES ON DJT.
DJT IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE COUNTRY WHO DOES NOT LIE. I EVEN SAW
A CABINET MEETING WHERE ONE BY ONE EACH PERSON HEAPED PRAISE ON
DJT TELLING HOW FANTASTIC HE IS AND HOW MUCH THE LOVE HIM AND THE
HONOR HE GAVE THEM BY GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRAISE HIM.
SO STOP CRITICIZING HIM - HE IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY AND IF YOU DONT
BELIEVE ME ASK MIKE PENCE OR VLADY PUTING.
 
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Why would I, as a grown man, want someone who wants to take the lion’s share of my hard earned money, or my constitutionally guaranteed firearms of choice (both of which affect, either directly or indirectly, my ability to take care of my family)?

Why would a grown man want his kids and grandkids to pay for his tax cut? Suck it up buttercup, let's cut it all if lower taxes is what you want.

According to the GOP base we had a black Muslim from Kenya for 8 years, and he didn't take your guns...because no one is going to. No guns is a pipe dream served up to get votes from the very liberal hippy base...same as abortion is to the very conservative religious base. Neither are going away.
 
Raoul, nobody has to pay for a tax cut. Please learn some basic economics.

Good God...If the same people you cheer for cutting taxes refuse to cut spending to reflect the lower projected revenues, someone has to pay for the borrowed funds that make up the difference...and it isn't going to be us with the amount of debt we have. Are you sure you run a bank?
 
Good God...If the same people you cheer for cutting taxes refuse to cut spending to reflect the lower projected revenues, someone has to pay for the borrowed funds that make up the difference...and it isn't going to be us with the amount of debt we have. Are you sure you run a bank?
They have the government to bail them out.
 
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At some point boys have to become men. You learn that fairy tales are fake and certain ways of thinking simply don’t work in real life.

An example would be a guy vehemently arguing for years that the Earth is only about 6000 years old, only to then become a man, learn his religion is a fairy tale, and realize nothing in that book is real life.
 
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An example would be a guy vehemently arguing for years that the Earth is only about 6000 years old, only to then become a man, learn his religion is a fairy tale, and realize nothing in that book is real life.

What's wrong with that? When you're indoctrinated from birth to believe something, it's often hard to let go or question something that is so ingrained.
 
What's wrong with that? When you're indoctrinated from birth to believe something, it's often hard to let go or question something that is so ingrained.

a simple minded religious person blindly following their faith is no different than a liberal blindly following his leftist ideology. both are completely indoctrinated.
 
a simple minded religious person blindly following their faith is no different than a liberal blindly following his leftist ideology. both are completely indoctrinated.
you sure? personally, i think liberalism is a mental disorder.
 
What's wrong with that? When you're indoctrinated from birth to believe something, it's often hard to let go or question something that is so ingrained.

Who said there was something wrong with it? I used it as an example to support BC's statement about growing up and accepting reality.

Some people have to continue growing and continue to accept reality even though they are slowly removing the layers of the veil over their face. I did it twice in my life - once when I was about 9 years old regarding Santa Claus and the other when I was about 14 and argued for two hours with the priest about the reality of the Bible before I was to get confirmed.
 
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