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EPA rolls back Obummer-era mistake

Air pollution knows no borders, and thus states should not be able to set their own limits. Of course, instead WV and others can just be sued out of existence by down-wind states.

Anyway, the joke is on you Trumper motherfvckers: coal plants are nearing the end of their life cycles and will not be replaced with coal plants, even if power companies could puff straight black smoke out of the stacks. Why? Gas plants are cheaper and can easily be taken on and off line when needed. So no, coal jobs are still not coming back.
 
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"Coal is coming back." Good thing we ended "Obama's war on coal."
 
cereal question, why are you guys so excited to see people put out of work? is it because this is obama's doing? or, is it because you want to see lost jobs under trump?
 
cereal question, why are you guys so excited to see people put out of work? is it because this is obama's doing? or, is it because you want to see lost jobs under trump?
Who wants to see people put out of work. Other electric generation industries are generating plenty of jobs. You have the perfect WV mentality
 
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Who wants to see people put out of work.
you libs gloating about coal coming to an end don't sound very worried about people losing their jobs.
Other electric generation industries are generating plenty of jobs. You have the perfect WV mentality
if being concerned about fellow WVians who will be put out of work is the "perfect WV mentality", then guilty as charged. where are all of those other jobs in WV?
 
you libs gloating about coal coming to an end don't sound very worried about people losing their jobs.

if being concerned about fellow WVians who will be put out of work is the "perfect WV mentality", then guilty as charged. where are all of those other jobs in WV?
Gas and oil. Regardless it’s not the rest of the nations job to take care of WV. Biggest welfare state in the nation. Always sucking on the tit of Uncle Sam and others outside of your state. Bravo. To another 100 year of being the welfare state.
 
Serious question, what are these coal miners going to do when their state hasn't planned for the future? They better get real with reality and do it quick.
At what point in time in the last 6 decades has WV tried to prepare for their future??
 
When was the last time you stood directly over coal fumes while they were burning?


Oh my god! You didn’t post that? That is hilarious and sad at the same time.

Did you never attend a single science class in your life? You think anything that exits the cooling towers and smoke stacks magically disappears and never comes back to the ground nor ends up in our streams?
 
Name one time any of you morons have ever breathed dirty air. That’s what I thought.

I was in LA in the mid 70s.

While this is not emperical, I have noticed a large decrease in smog in this area since my childhood. As a kid, most summer days I could see at best just an outline of the Louisville skyline. It's a lot better now. I wonder why....
 
Oh my god! You didn’t post that? That is hilarious and sad at the same time.

Did you never attend a single science class in your life? You think anything that exits the cooling towers and smoke stacks magically disappears and never comes back to the ground nor ends up in our streams?
Cuntry is just plain stupid. And that’s ok trump needs supporters.
 
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I was in Cheshire once for the "blue fog". I could definitely see the funk in the air. Not a good place to be during an inversion. I'm sure the Ohio River and the coal plants being in a valley had a lot to do with it.


I drove through there about a year ago during an inversion. Nasty.
 
I drove through there about a year ago during an inversion. Nasty.

I don't think most people know how crappy the Ohio Valley air can be in an inversion. Certainly it was a LOT worse before expanded environmental standards.

On the flip side we get a lot of capping inversions here, that's why our storms can go severe in minutes. It's not unusual for a storm to punch the cap and put a tornado on the ground before any warming.

Atmospheric physics is cool.
 
Yeah---let's look out for the great--great grandchildren.

Well except the ones that are aborted daily.Those are exempt, right?
 
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Guess nobody could name a time they were breathing dirty air. One visit to LA during the 70's. I am guessing car emissions.
 
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Guess nobody could name a time they were breathing dirty air. One visit to LA during the 70's. I am guessing car emissions.

I also mentioned the air here was fvxking horrible when I was growing up. And it's still bad here, and in WV, at times. It would still be fvcking horrible without more stringent regulations. Buy now it's what you can't see in the air, the water, and the ground that gets you. Cancer clusters are real. We have one here in the Rubbertown neighborhood...the name should make obvious the industries.
 
Seriously though...look at these pictures of pollution in the 1970s. The EPA did its job. I’m not saying that the pendulum didn’t swing too far in the other direction and that didn’t have a negative impact on business, but businesses left unfettered valued profit over he safety of both its employees and those who had to drink the water and breathe the air that they polluted.

Cleveland in 1973...

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New York City in early 1970s...

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Sulfur pollution from a plant in Alabama...

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Who can forget that the Cuyahoga River caught on fire. That probably wouldn't hurt anyone...

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And not just near the big cities...

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And in case you missed good old chemical Valley...just a few miles from where I was raised...here is life in the Kanawha Valley circa 1970s...



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Life before the EPA...those weeere the days my friend...
 
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Seriously though...look at these pictures of pollution in the 1970s. The EPA did its job. I’m not saying that the pendulum didn’t swing too far in the other direction and that didn’t have a negative impact on business, but businesses left unfettered valued profit over he safety of both its employees and those who had to drink the water and breathe the air that they polluted.

Cleveland in 1973...

0rMp_y0KZXtgnV6s6.jpeg



New York City in early 1970s...

0BeCejz9h8XZrHyLk.gif


Sulfur pollution from a plant in Alabama...

Sulphur+Fumes+Chem+Plant+LA+1973.jpg


Who can forget that the Cuyahoga River caught on fire. That probably wouldn't hurt anyone...

cuy-river-fire1.jpg


And not just near the big cities...

Donora1.jpg



And in case you missed good old chemical Valley...just a few miles from where I was raised...here is life in the Kanawha Valley circa 1970s...



20160127_south_charleston_aerial.jpeg


20160127_south_charleston_70s_city_future.jpeg



20160127_south_charleston_70s_union_carbide_discharge.jpeg


20160127_south_charleston_70s_plants_river.jpeg


20160127_south_charleston_70s_plants_house.jpeg



Life before the EPA...those weeere the days my friend...
Come on that’s just fog and mist.
 
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