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facebook says putin bought hundreds of thousands of $$ of pro trump ads

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Providing new evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Facebook disclosed on Wednesday that it had identified more than $100,000 worth of divisive ads on hot-button issues purchased by a shadowy Russian company linked to the Kremlin.

Most of the 3,000 ads did not refer to particular candidates but instead focused on divisive social issues such as race, gay rights, gun control and immigration, according to a post on Facebook by Alex Stamos, the company’s chief security officer. The ads, which ran between June 2015 and May 2017, were linked to some 470 fake accounts and pages the company said it had shut down.

The disclosure adds to the evidence of the broad scope of the Russian influence campaign, which American intelligence agencies concluded was designed to damage Hillary Clinton and boost Donald J. Trump during the election. Multiple investigations of the Russian meddling, and the possibility that the Trump campaign somehow colluded with Russia, have cast a shadow over the first eight months of Mr. Trump’s presidency.

Facebook is also cooperating with investigators for Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, writing that “we have shared our findings with U.S. authorities investigating these issues, and we will continue to work with them as necessary.”

Mr. Stamos wrote that while some of the ads specifically mentioned the two candidates, most focused instead on issues that were polarizing the electorate: “divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum — touching on topics from LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rights.”

Facebook did not make public any of the ads, nor did it say how many people saw them. But Mr. Trump regularly offered outspoken comments on those issues during the campaign, denouncing “political correctness” and rallying his supporters on the right.

In a January report, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency concluded that the Russian government,

on direct orders from President Vladimir V. Putin, was responsible for hacking Democratic targets and leaking thousands of emails and other documents in an attempt to hurt Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and mar her reputation.

The report also found that hundreds of Russian “trolls,” or paid social media users, had posted anti-Clinton messages. But it did not name Facebook or address the question of advertising.

“likely financier” of the Internet Research Agency was “a close Putin ally with ties to Russian intelligence.” The company, profiled by The New York Times Magazine in 2015, is in St. Petersburg and uses its small army of trolls to put out messages supportive of Russian government policy.
He said the committee has been in touch with Facebook for some time, adding, “I don’t think this is the last word on the matter by Facebook or in terms of our investigation on the social media issue.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/technology/facebook-russian-political-ads.html?mcubz=1
 
This is hilarious.

If true, Headline should read:
"Hillary can't overcome Fakebook's desire of profit with the acceptance of Russian Troll Money"

You really don't see how much more pathetic this story makes Hillary and the DNC look do you?

By the way. Exactly when did the DNC start disliking Russia propaganda??
 
You really don't see how much more pathetic this story makes Hillary and the DNC look do you?

Yeah....as pathetic as the millions of Republicans that believe all that fake shit. Granted, I've studied propaganda and disinformation, but I would like to think most people of average intelligence should be able to spot troll farm bullshit from a mile away....but they cannot.
 
Yeah....as pathetic as the millions of Republicans that believe all that fake shit. Granted, I've studied propaganda and disinformation, but I would like to think most people of average intelligence should be able to spot troll farm bullshit from a mile away....but they cannot.

One problem. Millions were never going to vote for Hillary Clinton regardless of ads on fakebook. Christ, Repubs specifically didn't need "trolled" to not vote for Hillary. That leaves those blue collar Dems as troll bait......(thus the reason fakebook will never reveal the stats on who actually reads that shit). Reinforces what Clinton herself said about her own party's voters. And to think it only took $200k to flip them. Sadly pathetic
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One problem. Millions were never going to vote for Hillary Clinton regardless of ads on fakebook. Christ, Repubs specifically didn't need "trolled" to not vote for Hillary. That leaves those blue collar Dems as troll bait......(thus the reason fakebook will never reveal the stats on who actually reads that shit). Reinforces what Clinton herself said about her own party's voters. And to think it only took $200k to flip them. Sadly pathetic
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I don't care if they voted for Box Car Willie, that many dumbasses is sadly pathetic.
 
I think you're right. Believing that Russia had any real influence over a Hillary loss is dumbfounding.
Given Comey's behavior during the, ahem, investigation - I'm not so sure he wasn't under a foreign government's influence. The shit he allowed Cheryl Mills (along with everyone else with a D beside their name) to get away is mind boggling.
 
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I think you're right. Believing that Russia had any real influence over a Hillary loss is dumbfounding.

That isn't the issue. The issue is what did Russia do, and did Trump know. Doesn't matter if zero people were influenced. But I think it's intellectually dishonest to think people were not influenced, one day on Facebook looking at people responding to that shit is enough to know.
 
But I think it's intellectually dishonest to think people were not influenced

And as I stated. It wasn't a majority of republicans "influenced" as you originally asserted. They didn't need to be "influenced" when it came to Hillary.

The issue is what did Russia do, and did Trump know

Bullshit. This scandal continues to display why it is a complete farce and excuse making cover up endeavor for the Clinton family and her campaign incompetence. Clintons have actually been taking foreign millions $$ (including Russian $$) for years without so much as a peep of concern over "influence" from folks like you. The DNC have historically been Russia/Communist sympathizers for years....and now (supposedly) Russia spends $200k on fakebook advertising, and helps to change an election outcome away from a candidate the world actually paid for during all these years of her "public" service???
 
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And as I stated. It wasn't a majority of republicans "influenced" as you originally asserted. They didn't need to be "influenced" when it came to Hillary.



Bullshit. This scandal continues to display why it is a complete farce and excuse making cover up endeavor for the Clinton family and her campaign incompetence. Clintons have actually been taking foreign millions $$ (including Russian $$) for years without so much as a peep of concern over "influence" from folks like you. The DNC have historically been Russia/Communist sympathizers for years....and now (supposedly) Russia spends $200k on fakebook advertising, and helps to change an election outcome away from a candidate the world actually paid for during all these years of her "public" service???


Lots of words that don't address the question. Did Russia actively engage in operations to support the Trump campaign, and if so did Trump know?

I've supported increased cooperation with Russia for a long time, but I don't want their spooks playing around with our elections.
 
Lots of words that don't address the question

It takes lots of words when dealing with such fiction. They mock the idea that liberals are suddenly concerned about Russian money and influence when they have been the party that historically benefited from it. You just don't want to accept that the premise of Russian collusion with a Repub candidate now being put forward by the DNC is laughable. What fakebook posts are you now reading? LOL.

Amazing. We were told by guys like you during the election that Trump was too dumb and arrogant to run a campaign, collaborate with others, take outside advice etc. Now...he apparently was brilliant enough to pull off a massive conspiracy by colluding with a foreign govt in order to help "steal" an election from the favored candidate. Its like every "never-trumper's" storyline is a form of bi-polar disorder.
 
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I think it's a riot that we feign outrage at foreign influence in our elections when we spend hundreds of millions doing exactly that in elections around the world and, when that doesn't get the desired outcome, we fund "revolutions" to get who we want in power.
 
It takes lots of words when dealing with such fiction. They mock the idea that liberals are suddenly concerned about Russian money and influence when they have been the party that historically benefited from it. You just don't want to accept that the premise of Russian collusion with a Repub candidate now being put forward by the DNC is laughable. What fakebook posts are you now reading? LOL.

Amazing. We were told by guys like you during the election that Trump was too dumb and arrogant to run a campaign, collaborate with others, take outside advice etc. Now...he apparently was brilliant enough to pull off a massive conspiracy by colluding with a foreign govt in order to help "steal" an election from the favored candidate. Its like every "never-trumper's" storyline is a form of bi-polar disorder.

I don't know why you want to paint with such a broad brush. Maybe because that isn't an intellectual challenge?

It's been interesting watching otherwise intelligent people, like yourself, latch on to certain phrases, most of which originated on alt-right media. "Never Trumper", I've seen that one a lot. I am not a member of the GOP, so it doesn't apply to me, yet you turned off your brain to throw it at me. Yes, I have said no real modern Republican can logically support someone whose platform deviates drastically from party principles. Judging by the shitshow that started at the convention and which still continues, I'd say I am right on that one. Hell, Trump got McConnell to cuss him on the phone...Mitch never cusses anyone...it's a giant shitshow. But yours now, you have drank the Kool Ade.

I told you Trump is batshit crazy. He is. I told you economic populism was the most popular idea of the election. It was. Add up the votes of Trump and Sanders in the primaries and look at the numbers. I also said Hillary would win as long as the Dem machine got out a certain vote...and it didn't. A lot of blacks don't like that bitch. She's just not a likeable person, politics aside.

Anyway, it doesn't take brains to accept outside help. It's offered, someone is dumb enough to tell him, he says that's cool. And it isn't cool. That's what the investigation will boil down to. Throw out all the alt-right phrases you wish, that fact won't change. Do I think Trump knew? I have no idea. Do I think someone in the campaign knew? Of course someone did. I guess we will see if they understood compartmentalization and plausible deniability. The Russians certainly do...they are good at that, as are our intelligence services.

Anyway, I'll play by your rules and borrow an alt-left phrase: your "whataboutalism" is laughable. When discussing a particular case, I don't care what anyone else may or may not have done, two wrongs do not make a right. I don't want Russian spooks playing in our elections, period. I do want cooperation with Russia on radical Islam. I do want Russian cooperation to stop our silly proxy wars in the Middle East. But fvxk off our election process, Ivan.

I am curious though: why would a staunch free market guy like you support Trump in the election? To get a tax cut for your business? Any other Republican would have granted that. Now you've got a polarizing nut that might not get it done. Great job!
 
I am curious though: why would a staunch free market guy like you support Trump in the election? To get a tax cut for your business? Any other Republican would have granted that. Now you've got a polarizing nut that might not get it done

Because like Trump, I understand there hasn't been a true "free market" in multiple generations.

My God, you act like Trump has been in office for 2-3 years. Its been 8 months! Normally you're pointing out that legislation shouldn't be rushed through? You think Repubs aren't going to try and get a tax deal done before the mid terms? Shit. I thought you understood politics.
 
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Because like Trump, I understand there hasn't been a true "free market" in multiple generations.

My God, you act like Trump has been in office for 2-3 years. Its been 8 months! Normally you're pointing out that legislation shouldn't be rushed through? You think Repubs aren't going to try and get a tax deal done before the mid terms? Shit. I thought you understood politics.

So now instead of pursuing free markets, you are all fvxk it. Got it. Bring on the tariffs.

8 months, 3 years, whatever....he is polarizing. Rubio, Kasich, not polarizing. Understanding politics...how did that health care vote go? Look for a couple more GOP senators to start running away from Trump.
 
So now instead of pursuing free markets, you are all fvxk it.

It's all about "fairness and equality" these days. Free markets are not free or equal. you're better complaining to those that demanded this current form of market "utopia" (and got it).

I focus on playing the game by the rules in their current form with the expectation that they will change from time to time, requiring me to alter my strategy.
 
It's all about "fairness and equality" these days. Free markets are not free or equal. you're better complaining to those that demanded this current form of market "utopia" (and got it).

I focus on playing the game by the rules in their current form with the expectation that they will change from time to time, requiring me to alter my strategy.

Glad to see you are no longer a Republican.
 
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