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FBS Championship Game

Sometimes football is funny... If you just look at the "eye test" LSU has been the best team all season. Better quality wins, more style points, tougher schedule, more NFL talent, etc.

Personally, I think they are going to win easily (my prediction is 41-24).

But that said, Trevor Lawrence is ridiculous, Ettiene is a great back and Tee Higgins is going to be a legit playmaker at the next level.

Living about an hour from Clemson, everyone down here is pretty excited. They think they can shock everybody. The good thing is with the playoff system at least we get to decide it on the field.
 
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If Clemson wins that will be three times in five years, so hardly shocking.
Clemson freshman have played more snaps this year than frosh at any other school.
My guess is you will see around forty pros on the field tonight between the two teams.
 
My kingdom for a Joe Brady!! Having a "Passing Specialist" work with your QB and also share play calling with the OC, it can make for a lethal combo. I will never understand not making room on staff for a QB Coach.....LSU was just so resilient and came on like gang busters after absorbing Clemson's start. They (gasp!) made adjustments at the half & it was Katie bar the door after that. The Burrow story is a good one....
 
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GreenDuke said:
Top shelf talent doesn’t hurt.
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more reason for the G5 to strongly consider breaking apart from the big boys, and starting up their own level of competition. When you have 75% of the P5 programs that cannot compete for a championship, it makes no sense for members of the G5 to compete on this level, unless they're a program like UCF with goals of one day being in a P5 conference.
 
You can only have so many levels of competition. There is no need for a I-A and a half. Any “championship” won at such a level would be taken as a joke, and should be.

UCF’s act is O V E R .
 
It will be interesting to see if LSUs success can be continued next year without Burrow
 
MichiganHerd said:
more reason for the G5 to strongly consider breaking apart from the big boys, and starting up their own level of competition. When you have 75% of the P5 programs that cannot compete for a championship, it makes no sense for members of the G5 to compete on this level, unless they're a program like UCF with goals of one day being in a P5 conference.
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While that will never happen, for a lot of reasons (pretty much all dealing with money)... What college football needs is the "illusion" of competition.

People love the NCAA tournament because theoretically, everyone has a chance, and once in a while you get a Butler or a Loyola and they do some crazy shit like make the final four before getting beat... In reality, about 20-25 teams can win the tournament each year if they get hot, just like in football.

The difference is basketball gives the small schools the ability to cash in and earn a sense of accomplishment by making the dance, or even winning a game. And that offers the illusion that the little guys are competing for a national title alongside the blue bloods.

When the football playoffs expand, and they will at some point, look for every P5 conference champ to get in, the top ranked G5 team and two at-larges. That way football can start selling the same illusion that "we," all the G5 teams, have a chance to win a national championship too (which in turn keeps more fan bases engaged, creates more buzz and drives up TV deals and revenue).
 
The Real SamC said:
You can only have so many levels of competition. There is no need for a I-A and a half. Any “championship” won at such a level would be taken as a joke, and should be.

UCF’s act is O V E R .
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Under the current scenario, there's a 100% chance that any team with a G5 patch on it's uniforms will ever compete for a title. UCF's act is just beginning, and one day they'll be in a P5 conference. As it stands currently, they wear a P6 patch on their uniform. Like it or not, there's a huge gap between the American and the three lower level G5 conferences (SB, CUSA, MAC), and a lesser gap between the American and the MWC.
 
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MichiganHerd said:
Under the current scenario, there's a 100% chance that any team with a G5 patch on it's uniforms will (n)ever compete for a title.
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And?


UCF's act is just beginning, and one day they'll be in a P5 conference. As it stands currently, they wear a P6 patch on their uniform.
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The “P6” patches are MADE UP. It’s a joke. I could proclaim Wayne County high schools as being the P7 league and buy the Pioneers, Timberwolves and Rebels such patches. It would not make it true. The “little engine that could” story, despite ESPN’s best efforts does not stay in one place, it moves around. In the case of UCF, it remains a dot of black in a sea of blue and orange and garnet and gold. They have the same relevancy in Orlando that WV State has in Charleston.

But, which is it? Is the ridiculous AAC claim to be “P6” real? Or is UCF bound for the actual thing, the P5? Can’t be both. Pick one. But, no UCF, ignored by almost all, will remain forever in the shadow of the ACC and SEC. Forever.

But to the broad point, SO WHAT if most member of ALL G5 leagues will never do this or that? SO WHAT?

The NCAA, et al, provides plenty of levels of competition. We choose to be in I-A. Some kind of I-A and a half would be like breaking WV high schools up into 15 classes and calling every other school in the state a “state champion”. So Marshall, or UCF, or Akron, or Nevada-Reno, or whatever, is “national champion of “not quite big time, but a little bigger than NoDak State, sort of medium-large to medium”, one of the five or six or who knows how many, not I-A champions. No thanks.
 
MichiganHerd said:
Under the current scenario, there's a 100% chance that any team with a G5 patch on it's uniforms will ever compete for a title. UCF's act is just beginning, and one day they'll be in a P5 conference. As it stands currently, they wear a P6 patch on their uniform. Like it or not, there's a huge gap between the American and the three lower level G5 conferences (SB, CUSA, MAC), and a lesser gap between the American and the MWC.
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What has the patch given them?
Alright, a NY 6 bowl game, which other conferences NOT wearing the patch have done.
Clemson just did what UCF did, winning 2 years straight, and essentially cruised to the CFP seeding and got in.
ucf had to beg and plead to get consideration, which admittedly, picked up steam, but fizzled out once they lost and everyone knew the CFP committee would never budge on keeping them out.
I think the patch is the "illusion" of competition.

It simply will never allow the G5 to be included unless the field expands.

Another thing about the NCAA tournament is the biased opinions in seeding and who gets in are there, but thats about all the committee can do, the big power schools are still able to be beaten on the court, and fans have been desensitized to the farcical idea that the world is going to end if Gonzaga or Butler won it all.
The opposite would happen, I think, and it would elevate the sport even more.
 
The Real SamC said:
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The “P6” patches are MADE UP. It’s a joke. I could proclaim Wayne County high schools as being the P7 league and buy the Pioneers, Timberwolves and Rebels such patches. It would not make it true. The “little engine that could” story, despite ESPN’s best efforts does not stay in one place, it moves around. In the case of UCF, it remains a dot of black in a sea of blue and orange and garnet and gold. They have the same relevancy in Orlando that WV State has in Charleston.

But, which is it? Is the ridiculous AAC claim to be “P6” real? Or is UCF bound for the actual thing, the P5? Can’t be both. Pick one. But, no UCF, ignored by almost all, will remain forever in the shadow of the ACC and SEC. Forever.

But to the broad point, SO WHAT if most member of ALL G5 leagues will never do this or that? SO WHAT?

The NCAA, et al, provides plenty of levels of competition. We choose to be in I-A. Some kind of I-A and a half would be like breaking WV high schools up into 15 classes and calling every other school in the state a “state champion”. So Marshall, or UCF, or Akron, or Nevada-Reno, or whatever, is “national champion of “not quite big time, but a little bigger than NoDak State, sort of medium-large to medium”, one of the five or six or who knows how many, not I-A champions. No thanks.
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I'd be willing to say plenty of powers that be don't want UCF to ever have a lasting feel good story. ESPN has the ability to really give focus where it wants, which is dictated by higher ups who get mad that some G5 program is hogging their Gameday spotlight.

I do agree that goddamn Sam is right about the shift in focus. Boise was all the talk in the 2000's, and still is but not as much. They had a 1 loss season and nobody mentioned it until the weekly rankings. Now its UCF. For a brief moment it was Appy State transcending 2 divisions of football. In the 90's it was Marshall.
Who's next?
 
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UCF's act surely wasn't over on Dec. 23.
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The very fact that they were playing Marshall, and not in the “access bowl” which, should they win it, would entitle them to another fake national championship, says it is. The little engine that could story moves on, as it has for years. Who knows where it will stop next.
 
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