Football season/Covid concerns

[ohio herd]

I know much is still up in the air with regard to this.I am hopeful that we play college football this fall. I am curious how many of you plan on going to the games this fall if given a choice? I plan on going if we play and I have that option available. What say ye HerdNation?

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

I’ll be there when we are in town. No question.
I’ll give Mike kudos, it seems he and the staff have a plan in place - based on HD articles.
I think we’ll have a season. Still 3 months from the first game.

 

[ekal]

Based on reports lately, the mortality rate for people under 60 is 1 percent, or 99% survival rate. And for those 18 and under, it's almost 100%. So these strong young athletes are not going to be seriously affected even if they get the virus. Coaches might have to be more careful, however. I think we can proceed with college football on the normal schedule. Also, the chances of getting the virus outdoors are very remote due to wind currents and air movement. Ohio State AD says he could see maybe 50% capacity in the stands for the games. Media keeps trying to convince the public that we need to be scared and withdrawn. The segment of the population that is vulnerable still needs to be cautious, but the other 80% can start to break out of their hibernation.

 

[Whocares304]

There are too many questions that need answers.
1) is there going to be any type of social distancing?
2)If so some people will obviously have to switch seats who makes that call ? What if you don't like your new seat?
3) will tailgating be allowed ( not important to me but it is to some people)
I havent read or seen any updates to these questions as much as i would love to have a football season i still think its to early to say what will happen.

 

[herdalicious]

And for those 18 and under, it's almost 100%.

Based on the typical settlement a school has to pay out over a player death, that "almost" could get pretty expensive. Also, the fatality rate for those with excess weight is higher than any other segment of the population, so we might want to make sure we've got lots of depth on the lines.

Coaches might have to be more careful, however.

And officials. And medical personnel. And if you have fans, go ahead and add in concession stand workers, janitors, security guards, ushers, ticket booth workers, my man Reggie selling scalped tickets in the West Lot...

The Federal government, local and state governments nationwide, the CDC, health officials, medical professionals, and scientists keep trying to convince the public that we need to be scared and withdrawn.

I can't remember who it was, but I saw a comedian who made a great point about this train of thought: you are actually saying that the media is out there, mind-controlling the public into a fake panic, convincing them to stay in their homes and let the economy go belly-up, while all levels of Federal, state and local government sit back powerless to stop them and helpless to do anything but go along with their ruse, even though these media companies derive their revenue mostly from commercial advertisers selling products and services during their programming. That's like cutting off your face to spite your face.

That don't make no sense atall.

 

[bbneutralfan]

ekal posted “Also, the chances of getting the virus outdoors are very remote due to wind currents and air movement. “. How do you think it’s transmitted? In the air! Coughing/sneezing/etc. The droplets remaining the air for sometime. Please do not sit in section 114 IF we even play and see the games.

 

[bbneutralfan]

ekal this from WebMD: “The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 mainly spreads from person to person. When someone who is infected coughs or sneezes, they send droplets containing the virus into the air. A healthy person can then breathe in those droplets. You may also catch the virus if you touch a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touch your mouth, nose, or eyes.“

 

[19MU88]

ekal this from WebMD: “The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 mainly spreads from person to person. When someone who is infected coughs or sneezes, they send droplets containing the virus into the air. A healthy person can then breathe in those droplets. You may also catch the virus if you touch a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touch your mouth, nose, or eyes.“

don't worry you will still be on lock down at the nursing home come this fall.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Pretty simple. If they open games to fans and someone is concerned for their safety or health - don’t come.

 

[bbneutralfan]

19MU88 I hope not but you can come visit and stand outside the window.

 

[Herd Insider]

The problem is that 90% of our fan base is over 60!

 

[oldeherd]

Going into this season, with the level of fan excitement for Doc and his team going on another decade of his tenure, I doubt "social distancing" will be a problem at the JOAN if and when the season is played. 30% of stadium seating capacity is 11,400 and 40% is 15,200. Should be plenty of elbow room for those who do show up, IMO.

 

[GreenDuke]

The problem is that 90% of our fan base is over 60!

Oh yeah, the ave age is around 112 years old. I should know because I went to school with these people.

 

[johns1124]

The problem is that 90% of our fan base is over 60!

Do you have any stats on that? Just because the younger "Fans", "Alum", and "Students" don't attend games. Does not mean they don't exist.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Do you have any stats on that? Just because the younger "Fans", "Alum", and "Students" don't attend games. Does not mean they don't exist.

If they didn't show up before, what makes you think they'll show up during a pandemic?

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Based on the typical settlement a school has to pay out over a player death, that "almost" could get pretty expensive. Also, the fatality rate for those with excess weight is higher than any other segment of the population, so we might want to make sure we've got lots of depth on the lines.

Your last line makes it sound like a war.

How are you going to prove someone got COVID-19 from MU's campus? Given the incubation period of around 14 days, you'll have a tough time proving where it was contracted.
I also imagine, MU wouldn't be held liable if they followed the guidelines for whatever protocol is issues for athletes...if even allowed to room and board on campus.

I also wouldn't be shocked if the NCAA drafts some sort of waiver that, when signed, says nobody can sue them if they get COVID-19. Considering they already sign their rights to exist as a human being away, they probably wouldn't be bothered signing another paper.

 

[cottrell75]

That’s one way to end their losing streak to Ohio State. https://www.wsj.com/articles/univer...es-measured-approach-on-reopening-11590321600

 

[caliherd]

Just an FYI there is not a waiver invented that is made that will prevent the university from being sued if they bring non essential people (Football players, coaches etc and especially fans) back on campus and they get the virus and God forbid die or are debilitated. The lawsuits would be staggering.

There is a reason even though Republicans say it’s being over played or it’s a hoax or whatever other stuff they are saying to delegitimize the virus as no big deal, are pushing language to help cover businesses etc. if people go back to work or restaurants etc and get the virus they can’t be held libel. So far it hasn’t passed so basically if you fully open up pay no attention to guidelines and you get people sick you will get sued. There are few institutions in this country that could handle these type of lawsuits.

I don’t care if you believe the virus is totally BS or you feel you can’t leave your house without a hazmat suit on, these lawsuits are real, (google Covid 19 lawsuits). I hope Marshall and other universities are taking this in consideration before they do business as usual with the upcoming season.

 

[johns1124]

If they didn't show up before, what makes you think they'll show up during a pandemic?

I believe that was the point I was making. Just cause you don't see them, does not mean they do not exist.

Just because they don't fill the Joan, does not mean MU cannot gain revenue by having football playing on TV (outside FB).

 

[johns1124]

Here is a Lawyers take on what may happen in CFB is not played.

 

[ohio herd]

Here is a Lawyers take on what may happen in CFB is not played.

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I wonder if that clause was used in 2001 when our game with TCU was canceled due to 9/11? As I recall since we did not make the trip to Texas they did not want to come to WV either

 

[johns1124]

I wonder if that clause was used in 2001 when our game with TCU was canceled due to 9/11? As I recall since we did not make the trip to Texas they did not want to come to WV either

The most interesting part of that video is that Arkansas St. was still paid 400k for missing the Miami game, due to a hurricane. If anyone you would have lock,stock, and barrel on that type of natural disaster in their contract it should be teams in So. Florida. In Lieu, ASU still received over half the contract. Final take-away is if some teams play and others don't, it's going to be a litigation fest. Dam 1.8 Mil just to play Michigan at Ann Arbor?

 

[ohio herd]

The most interesting part of that video is that Arkansas St. was still paid 400k for missing the Miami game, due to a hurricane. If anyone you would have lock,stock, and barrel on that type of natural disaster in their contract it should be teams in So. Florida. In Lieu, ASU still received over half the contract. Final take-away is if some teams play and others don't, it's going to be a litigation fest. Dam 1.8 Mil just to play Michigan at Ann Arbor?

dang I knew I should have went to law school instead of Seminary

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Just an FYI there is not a waiver invented that is made that will prevent the university from being sued if they bring non essential people (Football players, coaches etc and especially fans) back on campus and they get the virus and God forbid die or are debilitated. The lawsuits would be staggering.

There is a reason even though Republicans say it’s being over played or it’s a hoax or whatever other stuff they are saying to delegitimize the virus as no big deal, are pushing language to help cover businesses etc. if people go back to work or restaurants etc and get the virus they can’t be held libel. So far it hasn’t passed so basically if you fully open up pay no attention to guidelines and you get people sick you will get sued. There are few institutions in this country that could handle these type of lawsuits.

I don’t care if you believe the virus is totally BS or you feel you can’t leave your house without a hazmat suit on, these lawsuits are real, (google Covid 19 lawsuits). I hope Marshall and other universities are taking this in consideration before they do business as usual with the upcoming season.

Not yet it hasn't.
Laws and contracts can be made out of thin air. Given the NCAA's greed and Mark Emmert's ability to blow people, I wouldn't be shocked if some sort of drafted contract IS made or at the least, a memo about what legal actions to take, if you should be sued.