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For the first time in my life, I have doubts about our system and country.

i am herdman

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I know I do all the vaginification jokes and such.

But, with Hiillary getting a pass on this thing, I feel for the first time our system is completely rigged. Ruling elites vs every day joe.

If you or I or any ordinary joe would have done what she did they would lock us up.

Nothing. Hell, they went after probably the best field general we have had since Swartzkopf for much less.

This is the most bizarre and rigged event that I can remember.

I don't give a flip anymore.
 
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Think of it this way...do you really think the Republicans wanted her charged? Hell no. They are running from Trump as fast as they can. And they sure as hell don't want Sanders to win, best to kill that movement early and keep it buried.

Believe me, this is the best outcome for your party, and probably for the nation. Kind of like the Nixon pardon.
 
Think of it this way...do you really think the Republicans wanted her charged? Hell no. They are running from Trump as fast as they can. And they sure as hell don't want Sanders to win, best to kill that movement early and keep it buried.

Believe me, this is the best outcome for your party, and probably for the nation. Kind of like the Nixon pardon.

Bigger than winning an election to me Raoul. I have always stood for the flag, hot dogs, applie pie, baseball, and and such.

Not it all is just a rigged pile of shi*.
 
For the first time?

I'm pretty sure this is the 500th thread you've started that has said something similar.
 
Agree with Raoul on this one - the last thing the Republicans wanted was for Mrs. Clinton to be indicted. I am becoming more and more inclined to see her as the lesser of two evils as the longer the campaign goes the less and less I can envision a man like Trump holding the highest office in the land...there is something wrong with the man which becomes more and more obvious as the days pass.

She may be thought of as a snake in the grass but at least people realize that already , might be shady but again we all realize this. With Trump..you seriously dont know when the guy might go totally off the deep end and I for one do not want that happening in the White House.
 
Agree with Raoul on this one - the last thing the Republicans wanted was for Mrs. Clinton to be indicted. I am becoming more and more inclined to see her as the lesser of two evils as the longer the campaign goes the less and less I can envision a man like Trump holding the highest office in the land...there is something wrong with the man which becomes more and more obvious as the days pass.

She may be thought of as a snake in the grass but at least people realize that already , might be shady but again we all realize this. With Trump..you seriously dont know when the guy might go totally off the deep end and I for one do not want that happening in the White House.

Sounds like someone has been reading the GOP and Dem party talking points.
 
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Hillary is just as capable of going off the deep end. The difference is Trump would proudly announce his dive off the bridge and Hillary would blame hers on some random youtube video.

Sure she is - but not the same deep end. Trump has for months come off much like a others over the course of history who were at some point proven to be of unsound mind. And when you get right down to it , he distorts the truth ( just in a different field than government) as much or more than anyone else. All you have to do is watch him without a teleprompter and you can see the madman coming out time and time again. Add to that his continued speaking much like a child with the name calling etc. Its totally all about Trump. Add to that he has even picked up talking about himself in the third party..a la Bob Dole..lol.
 
Sounds like someone has been reading the GOP and Dem party talking points.


Not at all , just keeping my eyes and ears open to everything going on in this three ringed circus as it continues.

I have been voting , well for many many years..more years than some of you fellas are old..and never in all of the elections ( and I vote in primaries , runoffs , county , state , federal if we have an election I am voting , dont complain if you dont vote and I am former military so voting is hugely important to me as well as our family) I have never witnessed a point in time where people are actually considering not voting due to their feelings regarding both candidates. That fellas is sad , very sad.
 
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Sure she is - but not the same deep end. Trump has for months come off much like a others over the course of history who were at some point proven to be of unsound mind. And when you get right down to it , he distorts the truth ( just in a different field than government) as much or more than anyone else. All you have to do is watch him without a teleprompter and you can see the madman coming out time and time again. Add to that his continued speaking much like a child with the name calling etc. Its totally all about Trump. Add to that he has even picked up talking about himself in the third party..a la Bob Dole..lol.

People have become so conditioned to watch polotical hacks with teleprompters deliver perfectly crafted political bullshit, that they can no longer wrap their mind around someone speaking what they truly feel or believe with confidence, or trust that such confidence can be beneficial.

The electorate whines about "politicians", two party corrupt system, clamors for (real) change, and then run for the hills (pun not intended) the minute it shows up to bust up the party.

The fact that someone can speak daily/nightly to different crowds, in different places for over an hour at a time for weeks and months (and NOT NEED A TelePrompTer to tell him what to say) doesn't make him a madman. It makes him highly effective at leading.

Again, something tells me you are getting your opinion made for you by the media, GOP, and Dems who like cutting and pasting 15 second sound bites.
 
I vote regardless because what my people had to deal with just for the right to vote

But this is the first time I'm seriously considering writing in myself for President.

No way I'll support a liar and an idiot.
 
If it wasn't obvious to you Trump has a screw loose when he made fun of that disabled reporter, you might want to have a doctor check your Spidey-sense. Seriously, who the hell does that?

Just looked up the video. Does the reporter actually speak that way? Appears the reporter has a bad arm, but not sure what Trump says or how he says it is exactly mocking the reporters actual handicap. Nevertheless, more faux outrage from a group of people who gleefully mock others when it suits their need to do so.
 
For the first time?

I'm pretty sure this is the 500th thread you've started that has said something similar.
Not true. This is the first time in my life I don't believe in America. I am Red white and blue to the core. But this was one is a sad day.
 
I can't believe you, Raoul, as smart and perceptive as you have shown yourself on here over the years, don't recognize that Hillary is every bit as crazy, if not crazier, than Trump. The difference to me is that I feel a certain amount of Trump's craziness is part of the character he plays to certain crowds, not unlike Obama slipping into "Brother" mode when in front of a mostly or all black crowd, Trump goes into different characters depending on who's in the room.

Hillary is just a straight up crazy woman. It's not a character, it's who she is all the time.
 
one thing is for certain, regardless of the winner this country will be split 48-52% and as divided as it has ever been over the next 4 years. you will see a record number of bills fail, a record number of "executive orders", and the longest SCOTUS confirmation process in history. you will also probably see impeachment hearings... again, regardless of the winner....

we will probably see a "knockoff" attempt as well...

the country needs something to "unify" all of us as Americans again. Pearl Harbor, the space race, 9/11, something. if the Mars mission was further along that could be it, but it is still ~20-30 years away...
 
If she tries to take the weapons she will.

You were sure the negro POTUS would, and he didn't.

Two things I am convinced will never happen at the federal level: the Dems will not take your guns, and the GOP will not ban abortion. Forget the courts and all that, they won't do it because these issues are what they use to drive their base to the polls.
 
You were sure the negro POTUS would, and he didn't.

Two things I am convinced will never happen at the federal level: the Dems will not take your guns, and the GOP will not ban abortion. Forget the courts and all that, they won't do it because these issues are what they use to drive their base to the polls.

They already had a Clinton ban before. Obama is a nutless wonder. Hillary is more ruthless and will get more Supreme Court picks.

I am not turning shi* in either. I lost them in the boating accident.
 
Go ahead and ban the sale of new "assault rifles" again....there's ten million of them in circulation. It doesn't mean shit. Ban large magazines again, we all have a dozen of them. It is all smoke and mirrors. No one is taking your guns.

That means I can't buy a new or new magazines. Also, they banned 15 round mags for pistols as well. I think she will go after the ammo next time.
 
People have become so conditioned to watch polotical hacks with teleprompters deliver perfectly crafted political bullshit, that they can no longer wrap their mind around someone speaking what they truly feel or believe with confidence, or trust that such confidence can be beneficial.

The electorate whines about "politicians", two party corrupt system, clamors for (real) change, and then run for the hills (pun not intended) the minute it shows up to bust up the party.

The fact that someone can speak daily/nightly to different crowds, in different places for over an hour at a time for weeks and months (and NOT NEED A TelePrompTer to tell him what to say) doesn't make him a madman. It makes him highly effective at leading.

Again, something tells me you are getting your opinion made for you by the media, GOP, and Dems who like cutting and pasting 15 second sound bites.


No..the media is not influencing me as far as the talking heads and or pundits. Watching the actions of both candidates tells one more than anything , body language , tone , choice of words , their vocalized opinions. Trump to me now looks like a man in panic mode. He knows with Clinton not being charged he is going to have to face her one way or the other and his lack of command of the English language is going to catch up with him big time if he attempts to debate her.

With the President now involved in the campaign it is going to become very interesting. People who once backed or supported Trump have finally figured out many things regarding him and are now backing away. Not saying that Mrs. Clinton is a saint for sure , but Trump is in more trouble than many realize and more than he will admit to.
 
No..the media is not influencing me as far as the talking heads and or pundits. Watching the actions of both candidates tells one more than anything , body language , tone , choice of words , their vocalized opinions. Trump to me now looks like a man in panic mode. He knows with Clinton not being charged he is going to have to face her one way or the other and his lack of command of the English language is going to catch up with him big time if he attempts to debate her.

With the President now involved in the campaign it is going to become very interesting. People who once backed or supported Trump have finally figured out many things regarding him and are now backing away. Not saying that Mrs. Clinton is a saint for sure , but Trump is in more trouble than many realize and more than he will admit to.

I am sure Donald is scared.

Plus, voting for Hillary and being a man is a demerit on your man card.
 
No..the media is not influencing me as far as the talking heads and or pundits. Watching the actions of both candidates tells one more than anything , body language , tone , choice of words , their vocalized opinions. Trump to me now looks like a man in panic mode. He knows with Clinton not being charged he is going to have to face her one way or the other and his lack of command of the English language is going to catch up with him big time if he attempts to debate her.

With the President now involved in the campaign it is going to become very interesting. People who once backed or supported Trump have finally figured out many things regarding him and are now backing away. Not saying that Mrs. Clinton is a saint for sure , but Trump is in more trouble than many realize and more than he will admit to.

Your post is more hope and change wishful thinking nonsense simply not supported by any facts.

Trump has basically given ONE large crowd appearance since the FBI gave its press conference. That was here in Raleigh last night. "He now looks like a man in panic mode"? LMAO. Did you see it?

He raised more money last month ($54m) than he has since he started and the media saying his campaign was broke. If anything, Trump supporters and those that have disliked Hillary for her dishonesty will only become more locked into Trump....regardless. If he stays on message (Lying Hillary) it only brings more attention to the FBIs admitted dishonesty by Hillary. Hillary does not want to even have the discussion of what the FBI said. She is a walking, talking, campaign ad for lying and corruption.

Its going to take her and Obummer both to promise free shoes, education, turkey dinners for Thanksgiving in order to get her across the finish line. Because even the most blind Democrat will now have to admit they are voting to put someone in power that transmitted Top Secret info outside the govt system and tried to cover it up. Even the immature millennials understand this.
 
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