i have had the opportunity to watch interstellar several more times. What are your thoughts on how the worm hole got there. I can wrap my head around all the other stuff, but the worm hole perplexes me.
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I interpret that the wormhole was put there by future humans. The whole thing is very complicated. In the movie there was a Plan A to save the human race from the looming ecological disaster. Brand was working on solving an equation of gravity that would allow for the launch of an ark to save the remaining earth population. Plan B...in the event that Plan A failed... was a bank of fertilized human embryos that could be used to repopulate a habitable planet where they could continue to work on the equation and advance science and physics enough to travel back in time and save earth. Endurance...the spaceship in the movie was looking for habitable planets.
So the wormhole, believed by the scientist and NASA to be a superior race of beings was really future humans who had survived as a result of NASAs effort and built the whole wormhole to aid present humans. Inside the black hole was a tesseract constructed by the future humans to allow Cooper the means of communicating with his daughter. It is a time loop mind bending deal.
Anyway...that's my interpretation of it.
That's my take as well. The wormhole was placed there by humans so far advanced they had transcended three dimensional existence.
The debate i guess is that this answer is a paradox. Humans went through the wormhole to save the human race, the wormhole was placed there by future humans whose ancestors had already traversed the wormhole. I don't explain it very well, but it's very circular. How did the time loop start? If the human race is dying without the aid of the wormhole, how did we ever survive to become transcendent beings capable of saving ourselves in the first place?
The debate i guess is that this answer is a paradox. Humans went through the wormhole to save the human race, the wormhole was placed there by future humans whose ancestors had already traversed the wormhole. I don't explain it very well, but it's very circular. How did the time loop start? If the human race is dying without the aid of the wormhole, how did we ever survive to become transcendent beings capable of saving ourselves in the first place?
Yes...this is the argument and the conundrum that arises with these types of scenarios. From a realistic standpoint I believe that there are certain limitations to man's ability to manipulate the laws of physics. We can't exceed the speed of light (cosmic speed limit) and that automatically means that we will never be able to reach the overwhelming majority of our universe due to the limitations of not only the energy needed to complete such a mission, but also by the limitations of our life expectancy. And the thought of cheating this by using a wormhole means that man would have to have the ability to create black holes...something that would take such an infinite amount of mass that it would be out of the realm of possibility.
I think the cold reality is that humanity will not survive at some point. Whether we incinerate when our sun uses up its hydrogen and starts to fuse heavier elements and expands, we get nuked because our molten core hardens and negates the magnetic field that protects us from the sun's harmful particles, or we simply die because we are stupid with our resources or blow ourself up...I don't think we survive long term.
I agree to a certain extent. But laws of nature don't change with technology advancements. Do you believe that we could possibly develop technology to cheat the light speed limit? Exceeding that speed goes against the very core of the laws of physics as we understand them. Who knows....maybe we got it wrong. We thought Newton had it all figured out till Einstein changed the way we think. So we shall see...or should I say, some generation many years from now will see. Outside of a few rocky bodies in the cosmic neighborhood we're pretty much limited to our own little neighborhood.
Basically, yeah I do believe it's very possible that at some point we'll find a way around the speed limit.
I have no real justification for that other then I feel we have only just scratched the surface of understanding the true nature of the universe.
How can we truly know the possibilities of existence when we have no real explanation as to the nature and composition of 96% of the 'stuff' in the Universe (dark energy and dark matter)?
Good points on the dark matter. I think it's amazing that we have the ability to use present physics and science to make predictions about the existence of totally unknown things in the universe. Neptune was predicted and it's mass and location calculated before we knew of its existence by simply observing the path of Uranus. The Higgs Boson was predicted and looked for for decades before it was discovered by using what little we know about quantum physics. And dark matter...we know it's there. Galaxies would fly apart without it. Einstein's discovery that light distorts as it passes by massive objects (gravitational lensing) necessitates the need for all this mass that we can't even see or know exists. Or....we simply got gravity wrong.
I think you're swaying me a little. Until the time comes that we figure it out 73, the speculation sure makes for some cool science fiction.
I think you're swaying me a little. Until the time comes that we figure it out 73, the speculation sure makes for some cool science fiction.
I think it's a shame that we let europe build a collider before we did. Worm holes have been developed in a lab (although very tiny). I am not sure we can break the speed of light, but I think we can get wormhole technology which would essentially give us beyond speed of light capability. But getting it to take you where you want without being on the other side will be the tricky part.
We started a huge particle collider in Texas way before CERN, but the powers that be killed it while in progress. It was actually much bigger. All of the new discoveries at CERN could be being made in the US. That's sad. And have we created wormholes? I thought we just created artificial black holes at CERN.
Anyway...an article on the defunct Texas particle collider...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-supercollider-that-never-was/
The Ds had lots of help. Vote final was:
House 332-81 256 democrats in office 177 republicans
Senate 89-11 53 democrats in office 47 republicans
House 332-81 256 democrats in office 177 republicans
Senate 89-11 53 democrats in office 47 republicans
Blame goes both ways on this one. You could poke plenty of holes in any attempt to blame one side or the other. On a positive note, the most recent budget set aside an amount for NASA that was the highest in years. No clue where that came from. I'll let you guys fight over who gets credit for it.
I was being a trouble maker. Both Parties are responsible for our decline in the sciences (amongst other things)
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