Hey Rifle

[HFF-SLTX]

Thought I would give you some props for the kicking advice you helped me with earlier this year. The coaches you recommended have made a huge difference with my son. Matter of fact, he trained in Arkansas with 3 of the Marshall kickers (along with several other college and pro kickers) over the summer. He is 4 for 4 so far in FG's (32,37,42,47) this year in his junior year. He also has put 6 out of 10 deep kicks in the endzone and is 1 for 1 with onside kicks so far. He is putting in the time. He is hopeful of getting a D-1 scholarship.

He outkicked the senior 2nd Team all state kicker last night, even in a tough loss. Here is a link to his 42 yarder, ironically at the :42 mark.

http://www.thisweeknews.com/content...ap-olentangy-at-pickerington-north-VIDEO.html

 

[GeauxHerd]

Rifle was banned

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Rifle was banned

Really? That's not cool. Rifle should be the only one allowed to post personal info. He's like the Mossad of this board.

 

[GeauxHerd]

Really? That's not cool. Rifle should be the only one allowed to post personal info. He's like the Mossad of this board.

The crazy part it was my idea, I found the stuff and gave it to all those other guys and I'm still here. I even said the ban should go to me to the mods. I'm the only one involved still here. I think my punishment is trying to defend TITM without my home boys.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Did you find this stuff on social media? Did you find it without having to hack any accounts? If so, then I don't see the problem. If someone posts their stuff and don't lock down their accounts, oh well.

 

[i am herdman]

I read on another board banker got banned as well.

 

[herdfan06]

Herdman, weren't you banned for a day a few years back?

 

[GK4Herd]

Curious Geaux...what exactly are you defending with TITM? You realize the purpose for that board's existence is to keep idiots off the main board, right? It isn't some kind of sacred ground that needs protecting. I'm asking this sincerely, because I just don't understand how grown men can find any value in that kind of thing. I'm asking as a poster that has been on HerdNation since the very beginning and not as a Moderator. I didn't see the post that caused the ban nor was I involved in the banning. That is mostly because I just don't personally have the stomach for that board. It's a haven for juvenile behavior. I'm asking sincerely...what is the attraction?

I loved the contributions on this board of rifle and banker. I'll personally miss that. I love your passion and enjoy your post on OF as well. It's a shame that it came to what it did. But it was made explicitly clear that personal information on other posters will not be tolerated regardless of their team affiliation. These boards are a business and have to be run as such and that includes protecting themselves from potential lawsuits. Continuing to defy that after a line was clearly drawn in the sand left the admins with no choice.

I understand the us against them nature of the whole WVU/Marshall rivalry as much as anyone. My father was a huge WVU fan. He was so much so that he received flowers from Oliver Luck at his funeral when he died last year. Trust me when I say that we have argued the whole WVU/Marshall thing for years. Sometimes heated. But guess what? The underpinning of those arguments was the basic understanding that as passionate as we both were about the teams we loved, at the end of the day we understood that it was just a game. The respect that we have for each other should never be compromised by something as silly as our love for a game.

The whole thing is just unfortunate with no winners coming out of it. That saddens me.

 

[herdfan429]

Rifle talks shit about everyone stalks their social media pages then talks shit about people's families kids etc. he deserves a ban. There is no need to bring family into any discussion on these boards, smack board or not. He always gets away with it so I think his ban was deserved. And that goes for anyone posting info about others family. And it doesn't matter if it's on social media or not you can make your point with out cyber stalking someone's Facebook acct

 

[extragreen]

While I understand the idea that boards have to protect themselves against suits and such, I'm not happy when people get banned. I didn't agree much with anything either banker or rifle post, but the banter between the 2 and myself was not personal (speaking for myself). Is the ban permanent or can they gain access again later?

 

[i am herdman]

Herdman, weren't you banned for a day a few years back?

I have had a couple of timeouts and warnings but not for a long time.

 

[i am herdman]

"These boards are a business and have to be run as such and that includes protecting themselves from potential lawsuits."

Since you know the moderators/owners ask them if it is for sale and how much do they want for it. They know where to reach me.

 

[GeauxHerd]

GK,

I appreciate your posts as well. I agree with what the smack board is for. By "defending" I just mean that in a faux way of trying to defeat the WVU fans here. I have no Ill will or personal vendetta against ANY of the WVU fans on this Board. I just found it humorous to find some of the WVU posters info (public ofcourse) and then sprinkle bits and peices of it replying to them to throw them off guard. It was never about truly "outing" them for public flogging, just mind games for me. I've had my picture, address etc. posted on here before. No biggie to me. And yes Raoul, I found all the info online in public arenas (namely Facebook for 30cat). I'm not a hacker. I will give 30cat his due. He was one tough cookie to find with the little info that he would post about himself. cat required some real in depth thinking and also outside the (litter) box thinking to find his blue and gold butt on Facebook. I was at the Purdue game when it all started going down, and to my knowledge no one had anything other then a first or last name reference or a pic or two posted. I don't think anyone's dirty laundry or addresses were shared or personally threatened etc. but the rules are the rules and several people continued posting stuff after Marks ban threat was issued and a e scuffle ensued resulting in 4-5 people getting banned. But it's all faux for me here. Faux outrage at WVU fans. I'm personally a very chill guy who does his 9-5 MF and takes his kids to Dairy Queen and to the playground person (wearing Marshall green).

 

[GK4Herd]

While I understand the idea that boards have to protect themselves against suits and such, I'm not happy when people get banned. I didn't agree much with anything either banker or rifle post, but the banter between the 2 and myself was not personal (speaking for myself). Is the ban permanent or can they gain access again later?

I'm glad to hear it isn't personal with you. It never has been for me either. I love to argue because it forces me to defend the way I think. And believe it or not, when you listen to the other side you start to realize how things aren't always as definitive as we make them.

I love to get mad when I argue too. Passion is part of the fun. But as often as I disagree with you I'd never dream of using personal information and family to get internet accolades from people who (and I don't understand this part) sanctifies this type of behavior. It's like people are purposely hurting other people to gain attaboys from their internet peers. We, as adults should be more secure than that.

 

[i am herdman]

straight from the help center at facebook:

Information you share publicly: When you choose to share something with Public (ex: when you selectPublic from the audience selector), it’s considered public information. If you share something and you don’t see an audience selector or another privacy setting, that information is also public. Learn more about using theaudience selector to control who you share with when you post to Facebook.

Stuff other people share: If other people share info about you, even if it’s something you shared with them but did not make public, they can choose to make it public. Also when you comment on other people’s public posts, your comment is public as well.

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Getting a lawsuit over posting something that is public is a stretch. But, it is their board to run.

What the operators need to remember is who brings people back. Without traffic flow a place like this dries up.

Just my two cents.

 

[GK4Herd]

I appreciate your response Geaux.

 

[GK4Herd]

straight from the help center at facebook:

Information you share publicly: When you choose to share something with Public (ex: when you selectPublic from the audience selector), it’s considered public information. If you share something and you don’t see an audience selector or another privacy setting, that information is also public. Learn more about using theaudience selector to control who you share with when you post to Facebook.

Stuff other people share: If other people share info about you, even if it’s something you shared with them but did not make public, they can choose to make it public. Also when you comment on other people’s public posts, your comment is public as well.

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Getting a lawsuit over posting something that is public is a stretch. But, it is their board to run.

The only relevance to what you posted herdman was your last statement. It's their board to run the way they want. Facebook information is irrelevant.

 

[i am herdman]

The only relevance to what you posted herdman was your last statement. It's their board to run the way they want. Facebook information is irrelevant.

The part about who sells tickets is important. I dropped a hundred bucks(and so did others) on this place this year and it isn't because of all the quality reporting. I want to help support it and they loved my auto bill on my credit card. But, I figure $100 bucks is ok for the the entertainment value.

I was being serious if they ever want to sell, let me know.

 

[GK4Herd]

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[-CarlHungus-]

Dear rifle,

if you're reading this thread you already know. The house has been boarded up. The doors. The windows. Everything. We're at the Comfort Inn. Room 112. I love you.

Carl

 

[i am herdman]

rifle,

When you said my wife looked good, I took it as a compliment.

Of course, unlike others, I am secure and have a set of American man sized nuts.

This is the Mount Everest of Vaginification.

Let's go climb Mt Vagina.

 

[GeauxHerd]

And for your info, this is the first page of Google search..."Message Board Lawsuits." It's naive to believe you can't be sued...

1. 
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   When does the president of a corporation have to get his own coffee? When he and his business partner are the only employees. “In a startup like ours, there's ...

1. 
   
   Yahoo message board users sued - CNET
   www.cnet.com › Internet
   Sep 4, 2015 - A publicly traded Internet company in Portland, Oregon, is suing 100 "John Does" for allegedly posting inaccurate and defamatory statements ...

1. 
   
   SF Gate - Online Speech Hit With Offline Lawsuits
   www.fhdlaw.com/html/articles/sf_gate-offline_lawsuits.htm
   Lawsuits Companies and their critics clash on message boards ... say Internet users are censoring what they post online for fear of being sued. ... of bulletin boards about thousands of companies will whither,'' said Christopher Leigh, the ...

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1. 
   
   Online Stock Message-Board Poster Is Sued for Defamation Over ...
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1. 
   
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If people are suing based on people spreading false information about others, this board is in a heap of trouble lol. That's basically what all the posts on this board are!

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. I can sue Mark for emotional damage for ruining this board. For a million dollars.

But the suit would be tossed, even if he had a homeless smack addict as his attorney.

I agree, the owners can run the board as they wish. But I don't buy the lawsuit fears if what was posted was true, public information. Now, I would buy they want the board to be a kinder, gentler place. And that's fine. But let's not BS the rest of us, who sort of enjoy the Wild West atmosphere we have had in the past.

 

[herdfan06]

Raoul, remember when we were threatened by a chief mod back when the board switched to Rivals?

 

[i am herdman]

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. I can sue Mark for emotional damage for ruining this board. For a million dollars.

But the suit would be tossed, even if he had a homeless smack addict as his attorney.

I agree, the owners can run the board as they wish. But I don't buy the lawsuit fears if what was posted was true, public information. Now, I would buy they want the board to be a kinder, gentler place. And that's fine. But let's not BS the rest of us, who sort of enjoy the Wild West atmosphere we have had in the past.

Well stated.

 

[GK4Herd]

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[herdftblfan]

There was no consideration of a lawsuit. That was not the catalyst for the bannings although it is something we should be mindful of.

The site is not for sale. Sorry herdman.

There was no "e-scuffle" at least not with me because I didn't enter in to a debate. There was simply "these are the rules and going forward there will be a zero tolerance policy". It was either that or shut that board down because it had gotten way out of hand.

None of the banned posters will be allowed to knowingly return to this site. It's not fair to discuss their circumstances beyond that.

 

[GeauxHerd]

If anyone wants to know for historical accuracy, 30cats son is legitimate. I didn't take part in that debate a couple years ago, but my detective work proved that 30cat was correct. Just an FYI.

 

[GeauxHerd]

There was no consideration of a lawsuit. That was not the catalyst for the bannings although it is something we should be mindful of.

The site is not for sale. Sorry herdman.

There was no "e-scuffle" at least not with me because I didn't enter in to a debate. There was simply "these are the rules and going forward there will be a zero tolerance policy". It was either that or shut that board down because it had gotten way out of hand.

None of the banned posters will be allowed to knowingly return to this site. It's not fair to discuss their circumstances beyond that.

Ok. I didn't actually look at what the posts consisted of the night that they were banned. I haven't posted much on TITM since the Purdue game. Mostly reading and blasting Marshalls QB on OF and HN. (And one poll question) My posts on here have Mostly been answering questions as to what happened this past week.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Raoul, remember when we were threatened by a chief mod back when the board switched to Rivals?

Yes, who was monitoring private messages for dissent.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

GK, there is a huge difference in false, defamatory, or privileged posts verses factual stuff from public domain.

Legally, you all are free to post my pictures from Facebook, for example. That's why I have that shit on lockdown, to be viewed by friends only. So I guess Mark, 06, herdman, and some others can post it lol.

 

[HFF-SLTX]

So how long is Rifle banned? I was just trying to say thank you to the guy.

 

[i am herdman]

So how long is Rifle banned? I was just trying to say thank you to the guy.

Sounds like a permanent ban to me.

 

[i am herdman]

There was no consideration of a lawsuit. That was not the catalyst for the bannings although it is something we should be mindful of.

The site is not for sale. Sorry herdman.

There was no "e-scuffle" at least not with me because I didn't enter in to a debate. There was simply "these are the rules and going forward there will be a zero tolerance policy". It was either that or shut that board down because it had gotten way out of hand.

None of the banned posters will be allowed to knowingly return to this site. It's not fair to discuss their circumstances beyond that.

There was no consideration of a lawsuit. That was not the catalyst for the bannings although it is something we should be mindful of.

The site is not for sale. Sorry herdman.

There was no "e-scuffle" at least not with me because I didn't enter in to a debate. There was simply "these are the rules and going forward there will be a zero tolerance policy". It was either that or shut that board down because it had gotten way out of hand.

None of the banned posters will be allowed to knowingly return to this site. It's not fair to discuss their circumstances beyond that.

I think there could be a compromise here. Those guys have been long time posters and contributed greatly to the forums.

I'd like to help anyway I can.

 

[herdftblfan]

There's no compromise in this case. I'm sorry.

 

[GeauxHerd]

So how long is Rifle banned? I was just trying to say thank you to the guy.

I sent him a screen shot for you

 

[herdfan06]

There's no compromise in this case. I'm sorry.

You are acting like a woman.

 

[sistersville]

Im considered an idiot because of of my bipolar ways and horrible typing skills. I did it to myself. trying to play this crazy role as jed clampett. I just figured my many years watching herd football every saturday for 40 years counted for something. GK4herd you make me feel horrible.

 

[GK4Herd]

Im considered an idiot because of of my bipolar ways and horrible typing skills. I did it to myself. trying to play this crazy role as jed clampett. I just figured my many years watching herd football every saturday for 40 years counted for something. GK4herd you make me feel horrible.

How so Sisters? I've never said a negative word to you in any forum ever. I don't even post on TITM. I'm really lost as to where you're coming from on this one.

 

[sistersville]

My conscience. When you been called an idiot as much as i have been when i see the word I take it u might mean me. Sorry if i was wrong and glad at the same time. You were not talking about me.