Hillary: We Didn't Lose Any Americans in Libya

[i am herdman]

We didn't lose any Americans in Libya? WTF woman.

How they hell could she say that knowing the controversy surrounds her?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...lose-single-person-in-libya.html?intcmp=hpbt1

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Come on, you are too smart for gotcha crap. She's obviously talking about the air support in taking out Gaddafi.

 

[andy4theherd]

at least she's honest about jobs...

“We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said Sunday night while boasting about her clean energy program — and with a big smile on her face.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/14/hillar...ers-jobs-finishes-a-vast-democratic-betrayal/

 

[andy4theherd]

would love to hear about her "and not forget about them" plan... what magical industry is she going to invent in Eastern Ky and Southern WV that save these regions that rely just about entirely on coal...

for each coal mining job 3.5 jobs are created elsewhere in the economy.... that's gonna take a lot of "Clinton Magic" to recover from....

 

[i am herdman]

Come on, you are too smart for gotcha crap. She's obviously talking about the air support in taking out Gaddafi.

Maybe but is she that dumb to even draw attention to her bad topic?

She is out of touch with reality.

 

[Herd Fever]

Been saying she is a liar for years now

 

[HerdFan76]

would love to hear about her "and not forget about them" plan... what magical industry is she going to invent in Eastern Ky and Southern WV that save these regions that rely just about entirely on coal...

for each coal mining job 3.5 jobs are created elsewhere in the economy.... that's gonna take a lot of "Clinton Magic" to recover from....

Obama promised the same thing, he even mentioned it when he was in Charleston to speak about the drug epidemic. I believe it was reeducation and jobs training instead of creating a whole new industry though. Federal money was set aside for Obamas program but hasn't been distributed to the state yet. A local law maker made some noise about the delay a few months back but I haven't heard anything about it since. I don't know if its red tape or empty promises or what. Maybe it's being saved as a tool for Hillary.

 

[andy4theherd]

Obama promised the same thing, he even mentioned it when he was in Charleston to speak about the drug epidemic. I believe it was reeducation and jobs training instead of creating a whole new industry though. Federal money was set aside for Obamas program but hasn't been distributed to the state yet. A local law maker made some noise about the delay a few months back but I haven't heard anything about it since. I don't know if its red tape or empty promises or what. Maybe it's being saved as a tool for Hillary.

you can set aside $10 billion to send every out of work coal miner (and the 3.5 "others" that lost a job because of the miner) to MIT and wouldn't make a difference in those regions. maybe they have a plan to bring a couple of those big factories that just moved to Mexico to the coal fields......

 

[extragreen]

at least she's honest about jobs...

“We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said Sunday night while boasting about her clean energy program — and with a big smile on her face.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/14/hillar...ers-jobs-finishes-a-vast-democratic-betrayal/

Find the original speech and read what she said right after your quote.

 

[HerdFan76]

I can hear her now, "Ya'll got that Procter and Gamble distro center, what the F more do you want?"

 

[HerdFan76]

Find the original speech and read what she said right after your quote.

He already acknowledged that. Quit with your gotcha BS.

 

[andy4theherd]

Find the original speech and read what she said right after your quote.

read my second post in this thread........

 

[dherd]

at least she's honest about jobs...

“We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said Sunday night while boasting about her clean energy program — and with a big smile on her face.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/14/hillar...ers-jobs-finishes-a-vast-democratic-betrayal/

IF YOU HAVE TO TELL/REPEAT A LIE TO SUPPORT YOUR POSITION YOU ARE A LOSER.

GET IN THE GAME - FOOL.

In two years' time, five Duke Energy natural gas-fired power plants began serving North Carolina customers. However, through its modernization projects, Duke Energy added 2,760 MW – more than tripling its original capacity while significantly reducing emissions. These additions enable Duke Energy to modernize the fleet, better serve customers' future energy needs and continue environmental stewardship efforts across the service territory.

WV WOULD DO BETTER TO INVEST MONEY IN ITS PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO TRANSFORM THE STATES ECONOMY
INTO THE 21st CENTURY, RATHER THAN ATTEMPTING TO RESURRECT THE 19th.
https://www.duke-energy.com/about-us/natural-gas-overview.asp

 

[GreenDuke]

It would be cheaper and more humane to buy out all that want to leave the coal counties than to create more training programs, train for what lmao. There was no need for these towns and coal camps before the start of extraction and there is no reason for their existence going forward. Nothing more than cruel, empty promises by both parties. South of 60 is finished as far as an industrial force.

 

[andy4theherd]

IF YOU HAVE TO TELL/REPEAT A LIE TO SUPPORT YOUR POSITION YOU ARE A LOSER.

GET IN THE GAME - FOOL.

where did i "lie" in my copy/paste of her quote?

AND I'LL ADD SOME LOUD NOISES WHILE I'M AT IT!

 

[dherd]

YOUR SOURCE LEFT OFF THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE PARAGRAPH,
WHICH MAKES THE STATEMENT YOU QUOTED A LIE. WHEN YOU LEAVE OFF
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF A QUOTE IN ORDER TO TWIST THE STATEMENT
INTO THE OPPOSITE OF ITS MEANING - YOUR STATEMENT BECOMES A LIE.

IF YOU HAVE TO LIE TO SUPPORT YOUR POSITION - YOUR A LOSER.

Clinton said Sunday in Columbus, Ohio, that her "clean, renewable energy" plan was going to "put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."

Clinton added that she was going to "make clear that we don't want to forget these people" and touted her plan to spend federal dollars on rebuilding coal country.

DON BLANKENSHIP WAS JUST CONVICTED OF BASICALLY KILLING COAL MINERS FOR THE
SAKE OF $$. WHY ARE YOU SO DETERMINED TO SUPPORT SOMEONE LIKE THAT.

COAL IS HISTORY - WHAT IS IT THAT SOMEONE WHO OFFERS YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS A BETTER WAY OF
LIFE MAKES YOU SO DAMNED ANGRY AT THEM. WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE YOUR CHILDREN BREATH COAL DUST
UNTIL IT KILLS THEM THAN TO INTRODUCE A BETTER WAY OF LIFE FOR THEM? I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT
WEST VIRGINIANS ARE AMONG THE BEST PEOPLE ON EARTH - I AM CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE AS HONEST, HARD WORKING AND FAITHFUL AS WEST VIRGINIANS ARE CAN ADAPT TO A WAY OF MAKING A LIVING BETTER THAN LIVING
HALF THEIR LIVES MILES UNDER GROUND IN THE DARKNESS BREATHING FILTHY AIR FOR THE PROFITS OF THE LIKES
OF DON BLANKENSHIP.

YOU AND PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE YOU SHOULD SET YOUR SITES A LITTLE HIGHER RATHER THAN
SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE REGARDING THOSE WHO HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART AS
OPPOSED TO THOSE WHO ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN WORKING YOU TO DEATH,
WHILE LIVING LIKE KINGS OFF YOUR SWEAT AND BLOOD, AND I LITERALLY MEAN
SWEAT AND BLOOD.

 

[i am herdman]

Democrats want people on lower wages or welfare. That means they are dependent upon them and the big titty of govt.

 

[Herd Fever]

YOUR SOURCE LEFT OFF THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE PARAGRAPH,
WHICH MAKES THE STATEMENT YOU QUOTED A LIE. WHEN YOU LEAVE OFF
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF A QUOTE IN ORDER TO TWIST THE STATEMENT
INTO THE OPPOSITE OF ITS MEANING - YOUR STATEMENT BECOMES A LIE.

IF YOU HAVE TO LIE TO SUPPORT YOUR POSITION - YOUR A LOSER.

Clinton said Sunday in Columbus, Ohio, that her "clean, renewable energy" plan was going to "put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."

Clinton added that she was going to "make clear that we don't want to forget these people" and touted her plan to spend federal dollars on rebuilding coal country.

DON BLANKENSHIP WAS JUST CONVICTED OF BASICALLY KILLING COAL MINERS FOR THE
SAKE OF $$. WHY ARE YOU SO DETERMINED TO SUPPORT SOMEONE LIKE THAT.

COAL IS HISTORY - WHAT IS IT THAT SOMEONE WHO OFFERS YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS A BETTER WAY OF
LIFE MAKES YOU SO DAMNED ANGRY AT THEM. WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE YOUR CHILDREN BREATH COAL DUST
UNTIL IT KILLS THEM THAN TO INTRODUCE A BETTER WAY OF LIFE FOR THEM? I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT
WEST VIRGINIANS ARE AMONG THE BEST PEOPLE ON EARTH - I AM CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE AS HONEST, HARD WORKING AND FAITHFUL AS WEST VIRGINIANS ARE CAN ADAPT TO A WAY OF MAKING A LIVING BETTER THAN LIVING
HALF THEIR LIVES MILES UNDER GROUND IN THE DARKNESS BREATHING FILTHY AIR FOR THE PROFITS OF THE LIKES
OF DON BLANKENSHIP.

YOU AND PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE YOU SHOULD SET YOUR SITES A LITTLE HIGHER RATHER THAN
SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE REGARDING THOSE WHO HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART AS
OPPOSED TO THOSE WHO ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN WORKING YOU TO DEATH,
WHILE LIVING LIKE KINGS OFF YOUR SWEAT AND BLOOD, AND I LITERALLY MEAN
SWEAT AND BLOOD.

So much facts I don't know where to begin

 

[Herd Fever]

Democrats want people on lower wages or welfare. That means they are dependent upon them and the big titty of govt.

That's why so many Democrats are pushing for the $15 minimum wage, while the person your endorsing said working for $7.25 is a livable wage. Man your so stupid it's amazing

 

[19MU88]

Democrats want people on lower wages or welfare. That means they are dependent upon them and the big titty of govt.

they want them on the democrat plantation, if you will.

 

[Herd Fever]

But they want to raise the minimum wage to a level where you don't qualify for Welfare

I see more of Fox News lies and propaganda is getting in your heads

 

[raleighherdfan]

But they want to raise the minimum wage to a level where you don't qualify for Welfare

I see more of Fox News lies and propaganda is getting in your heads

This has been discussed endlessly on this forum. Moving everyone to 15$/hr simply raises the floor of poverty baseline to 15$/hour. Only economic illiterates don't understand this.

Inflation (caused by artificial govt manipulation in labor costs) prices people out of the workforce.

 

[i am herdman]

That's why so many Democrats are pushing for the $15 minimum wage, while the person your endorsing said working for $7.25 is a livable wage. Man your so stupid it's amazing

So why not $35 an hour?

 

[Herd Fever]

So why not $35 an hour?

Because that's not responsible

 

[extragreen]

So why not $35 an hour?

Why don't you work for $3/hour? That would cause prices to go down and increase jobs.

 

[Herd Fever]

This has been discussed endlessly on this forum. Moving everyone to 15$/hr simply raises the floor of poverty baseline to 15$/hour. Only economic illiterates don't understand this.

Inflation (caused by artificial govt manipulation in labor costs) prices people out of the workforce.

Good ahead and continue listening to those 1% lies and believing them

 

[Walden Pond]

I said $55,900 for everyone, but still was met with shouting anger. No matter what you do, they just won't be satisfied.

Might as well not do anything then.

 

[herdfan429]

Good ahead and continue listening to those 1% lies and believing them

Research what is happening in Seattle

 

[raleighherdfan]

Good ahead and continue listening to those 1% lies and believing them

Speaking with knowledge and experience. Lies just are not necessary.

 

[dherd]

MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THE RESEARCH - YOU ARE THE ONE
WHO IS FOS. NO NEVER MIND - ITS MUCH EASIER BEING A LAZY IGNORANT
CON WHO JUST REGURGITATES WHAT HE HEARS FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN
PROPAGANDA MACHINE.

Earlier this year, the city of Seattle’s ordinance requiring a $15 minimum wage took effect and since then the right-wing blogosphere has been filled with predictions of doom.

The reality: We don’t know how it is affecting employment yet.

Here’s what we do know: Employment in food service and drinking places, establishments with large numbers of minimum-wage jobs, was 110,000 in October, the most recent month available. This is slightly higher than in April, when the new law was passed. It is well above the 96,700 peak before the Great Recession.

Retail trade employment hit a record 171,500 in October, compared with the pre-recession high of 148,700.
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/economy/is-seattles-minimum-wage-killing-jobs/

 

[herdfan429]

FromYour article

This good news comes with a big caveat. The data are for the Seattle-Bellevue-Everett metropolitan division. They aren’t broken out for the city.

 

[dherd]

FromYour article

This good news comes with a big caveat. The data are for the Seattle-Bellevue-Everett metropolitan division. They aren’t broken out for the city.

SO WHATS YOUR POINT? YOU SAID LOOK UP THE DATA (WHICH YOU
OBVIOUSLY DID NOT BOTHER TO DO) IMPLYING
THE RESULTS ARE NEGATIVE. AFTER LOOKING IT UP THE RESULTS
ARE FAR FROM NEGATIVE. SO AGAIN - WHAT IS YOUR POINT? WERE
YOU IMPLYING POSITIVE DATA? OF COURSE NOT. YOU'RE JUST STUCK
IN THE RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA MUD AND CANT BREAK OUT.

 

[i am herdman]

Because that's not responsible

What the magic number then? $25 $20 $18?

Let's say it is $18. Then what happens?

 

[i am herdman]

I said $55,900 for everyone, but still was met with shouting anger. No matter what you do, they just won't be satisfied.

Might as well not do anything then.

55,900 is a good number. That keeps everyone in a lower tax bracket.

 

[i am herdman]

Why don't you work for $3/hour? That would cause prices to go down and increase jobs.

Well because I have a degree, skills, and bring a lot of revenue into my company.

That being said, i have worked for that before. It is all relative. If you raise it to $15 then the price of goods and services are just going to go up.

 

[extragreen]

Well because I have a degree, skills, and bring a lot of revenue into my company.

That being said, i have worked for that before. It is all relative. If you raise it to $15 then the price of goods and services are just going to go up.

You didn't work for $3 per hour as an adult.

People working for low wages at walmart bring in a lot of money.

The difference you pay by raising the minimum wage to $15/hr wouldn't be felt by a high roller like you.

 

[i am herdman]

You didn't work for $3 per hour as an adult.

Well, yes I did. Isn't 18 an adult?

It would actually hurt the lower wage earners, the one you try to help.

 

[extragreen]

Well, yes I did. Isn't 18 an adult?

The last time minimum wage was $3/hr was in 1980. 36 years ago. If you were 18 at that time, you would be 54 years old.

 

[i am herdman]

The last time minimum wage was $3/hr was in 1980. 36 years ago. If you were 18 at that time, you would be 54 years old.

My first full time job paid $3.35 per hour and that was in 1988. I remember it well. So, I guess we can argue about 35 cents an hour.

Prior to that I would work for $3 per hour doing construction(mainly just did what they told me) work when I was a teenager in the summer.

 

[raleighherdfan]

MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THE RESEARCH - YOU ARE THE ONE
WHO IS FOS. NO NEVER MIND - ITS MUCH EASIER BEING A LAZY IGNORANT
CON WHO JUST REGURGITATES WHAT HE HEARS FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN
PROPAGANDA MACHINE.

http://www.seattletimes.com/business/economy/is-seattles-minimum-wage-killing-jobs/

Food Service?????? Are you fvcking kidding me??? Is that the measure of liberal success. Waiter jobs?????????

This isn't con data.......It's precious liberal govt data. Interestingly enough. Employment outside Seattle city limits is growing.......shocker.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._that_15_minimum_wage_working_out_for_ya.html


Seattle’s monthly employment, the number of unemployed workers, and the city’s unemployment rate through December 2015 suggest that since last April when the first minimum wage hike took effect: a) the city’s employment has fallen by more than 11,000, b) the number of unemployed workers has risen by nearly 5,000, and c) the city’s jobless rate has increased by more than 1 percentage point (all based on BLS’s “not seasonally adjusted basis”). Those figures are based on employment data for the city of Seattle only (not the Seattle MSA or MD), and are available from the BLS website here (data are “not seasonally adjusted”).

How can we be sure that the increase in minimum wage is to blame? Employment in the neighboring suburbs of the city have hit a record high:

Update: The chart below shows that while the city of Seattle experienced a sharp drop in employment of more than 11,000 jobs between April and December last year (light blue line, BLS data available here), employment in Seattle’s neighboring suburbs outside the city limits (the Seattle MSA jobs less Seattle city jobs) increased over that period by nearly 57,000 jobs and reached a new record high in November 2015 before falling slightly in December.

Bottom Line II: Additional evidence showing that while jobs in the city of Seattle were tanking starting last April, employment in the suburbs surrounding Seattle was increasing steadily to a new record high in November. That departure in employment trends: job declines inside the city limits of Seattle compared to increasing employment outside the city limits suggests the possibility that the difference in labor costs could have been a contributing factor.