How about that? Majority of Americans now support tax bill.

[big_country90]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/business/economy/tax-overhaul-survey.html

It's not surprising that once the bill is actually passed that liberals get exposed for the lying liars that they are.

 

[19MU88]

crumbs are good.

but crow is even better.

 

[WV-FAN]

"SOURCE!" derp.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Wait....I thought rich guys were transferring money to themselves out of the commoners accounts??!

 

[SamSwimmer]

not a single democrat voted for it. i would say the republicans will capitalize on this in the mid-term but they'll shoot themselves in the foot, they always do

 

[ohio herd]

if we had real news Trumps numbers would be much higher. MSM is a joke.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

I haven't seen any change on my check. Then again, I'm not rich like BC and Rox. And I am paid hourly and never work the same amount of time over pay periods, so I wouldn't really notice unless it cut me to 0% tax.

Anyway, with margin or error it's even. Sounds like anything political in the USA.

 

[ThunderCat98]

People like keeping more of their paycheck? Who knew?



Oh, that's right. Anyone with an ounce of sense.

 

[Walter Brennaneer]

Trump is still whipping the democrats and liberal media on a daily basis.

People like keeping more of their paycheck? Who knew?
Oh, that's right. Anyone with an ounce of sense.

Whining in all they have left. Still pissed Clinton lost.

 

[NutcaseConservative]

I haven't seen any change on my check. Then again, I'm not rich like BC and Rox. And I am paid hourly and never work the same amount of time over pay periods, so I wouldn't really notice unless it cut me to 0% tax.

Anyway, with margin or error it's even. Sounds like anything political in the USA.

You're not the only one....

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/3...of-tax-overhaul?amp&__twitter_impression=true

 

[ThunderCat98]

I can assure your I'm not "wealthy." I fall squarely in the middle-class bracket referred to in the article, and i have seen an appreciable increase in my take-home. Thx, repubs.

 

[extragreen]

You cons sure pushed your deficit hawk soup to the back burner. Scratch that, you've taken it completely off the menu.

 

[HerdBuckeye]

You cons sure pushed your deficit hawk soup to the back burner. Scratch that, you've taken it completely off the menu.

Bahahaha. What deficit hawks???? As long as trump says spend all these trumptards fall right in line. I still remember when Ohio herd said trump was paying down the deficit last March. Fvcking hysterical.

 

[Brushy Bill]

You cons sure pushed your deficit hawk soup to the back burner. Scratch that, you've taken it completely off the menu.

So you're happy then? Maybe you just don't like what he's spending it on, I bet that's it, right?

 

[raleighherdfan]

Just wondering....how exactly would “low income” people see an appreciable difference in take home when they pay little to no Fed income tax anyway?
Did they receive an income tax cut? Answer: Yes.

But, In a progressive income tax system, why is it a surprise to anyone that those previously paying higher rates & bigger tax amounts would see bigger take home increases following rate reduction compared to the lowest income earners?

 

[Brushy Bill]

why is it a surprise to anyone that those previously paying higher rates & bigger tax amounts would see bigger take home increases following rate reduction compared to the lowest income earners?

Because we're dealing will morons, that's why.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

But, In a progressive income tax system, why is it a surprise to anyone that those previously paying higher rates & bigger tax amounts would see bigger take home increases following rate reduction compared to the lowest income earners?

Of course. Just for me I explained why I wouldn't notice unless it was a drastic increase..mainly so when I say I am still against it none of you dingdongs will ask me if I don't like taking home extra money. Now if my income was tripled I would probably notice it.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

You're not the only one....

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/3...of-tax-overhaul?amp&__twitter_impression=true

I couldn't answer honestly to that poll. My income fluctuates based on how much OT I work. And I always work OT....which is why I insist on still being hourly, I don't want to get fvcked by being on salary.

Low earners are not going to notice a couple of bucks anyways. Duh.

 

[extragreen]

Bahahaha. What deficit hawks???? As long as trump says spend all these trumptards fall right in line. I still remember when Ohio herd said trump was paying down the deficit last March. Fvcking hysterical.

What deficit hawks? Exactly. Only when there's a D in the White House. I also remember they laughed when I told them the debt seemed to be growing slowly because of accounting tricks. The last 4 month average indicates a trillion dollars of debt for 2018. Just for the first 2 weeks of February, the debt went up 175 billion.

 

[extragreen]

So you're happy then? Maybe you just don't like what he's spending it on, I bet that's it, right?

Let's see....
infrastructure? the wealthy?
infrastructure? the wealthy?

I'd go with infrastructure. Moron.

 

[Brushy Bill]

Let's see....
infrastructure? the wealthy?
infrastructure? the wealthy?

I'd go with infrastructure. Moron.

Then you should be ecstatic, so shut the hell up.

 

[extragreen]

Then you should be ecstatic, so shut the hell up.

Hold your breath, punk.

 

[Brushy Bill]

Hold your breath, punk.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Bottom line: inconsequential or not..... I doubt any of these mopey tax handwringing “do gooders” are sending the money back into the IRS once it hits their hands.

 

[HerdFan73]

I couldn't answer honestly to that poll. My income fluctuates based on how much OT I work. And I always work OT....which is why I insist on still being hourly, I don't want to get fvcked by being on salary.

Low earners are not going to notice a couple of bucks anyways. Duh.

My wife and myself who are in very different professions and have about a 40-50% difference in income are both bringing home 3-4% more per check.

In effect, Trump gave me twice the pay raise Justice is giving teachers, and i didnt even have to go stand in the rain at the Capital to get it.

 

[WV-FAN]

I haven't seen any change on my check. Then again, I'm not rich like BC and Rox. And I am paid hourly and never work the same amount of time over pay periods, so I wouldn't really notice unless it cut me to 0% tax.

Anyway, with margin or error it's even. Sounds like anything political in the USA.

check your effective tax rate when you file for 2018 and compare it to your 2017 tax paid directly from your tax return. don't forget to thank trump for the lower percentage.

people bullshitting about not seeing a change in their paychecks should really just shut the fvck up to avoid showing their ignorance of the tax system, both old and new. how's the old saying go, "better to keep your mouth shut and let people keep thinking you're a dumbass than opening it and proving them right."

 

[extragreen]

My wife and myself who are in very different professions and have about a 40-50% difference in income are both bringing home 3-4% more per check.

In effect, Trump gave me twice the pay raise Justice is giving teachers, and i didnt even have to go stand in the rain at the Capital to get it.

cheetos borrowed the money to give raises, most of which will go to the wealthy. trickle down again, at a time when it would do almost no good for the economy.

 

[WV-FAN]

cheetos borrowed the money to give raises, most of which will go to the wealthy. trickle down again, at a time when it would do almost no good for the economy.

if my LLC taxed as an SCORP grosses $225K in 2018 and your sole prop cabinet shop grosses $25K, which company will benefit the most under the new tax structure?

 

[extragreen]

if my LLC taxed as an SCORP grosses $225K in 2018 and your sole prop cabinet shop grosses $25K, which company will benefit the most under the new tax structure?

A household earning $1 million or more would get an average cut of $69,660, an income bump of 3.3 percent. Compare that with the a tax cut of $870, or 1.6 percent, for the average household earning $50,000 to $75,000.

 

[herdfan429]

A household earning $1 million or more would get an average cut of $69,660, an income bump of 3.3 percent. Compare that with the a tax cut of $870, or 1.6 percent, for the average household earning $50,000 to $75,000.

And your point is? The millionaire pays more in taxes than the person making 60k

 

[extragreen]

And your point is? The millionaire pays more in taxes than the person making 60k

My point, which is a fact, is that most of the tax break goes to the wealthy who don't need a tax cut. As was stated in my previous post, the middle class example not only shows them getting less money, but also a smaller percentage tax cut. Said tax cuts won't help the economy much, if any. Corporations have already been making record or near record profits.

 

[19MU88]

I love it when a failed business owner comments on the tax system, corporations profitability or other economic items....it's funny

 

[Walter Brennaneer]

And your point is? The millionaire pays more in taxes than the person making 60k

Libs will never mention that higher income owners pay more, especially an idiot like Greed.

 

[Dorrej]

My point, which is a fact, is that most of the tax break goes to the wealthy who don't need a tax cut. As was stated in my previous post, the middle class example not only shows them getting less money, but also a smaller percentage tax cut. Said tax cuts won't help the economy much, if any. Corporations have already been making record or near record profits.

That wealthy also pay the vast majority of taxes.

The top 1%(income > $465k) account for 20% of total adjusted gross income and pay 40% of the total income tax collected.

The top 10%(income > $133k) account for 47% of total adjusted gross income and pay 70% of the total income tax collected.

The bottom 50%(income < $38k) account for 11% of total adjusted gross income and pay 2.75% of the total income tax collected.

 

[WV-FAN]

A household earning $1 million or more would get an average cut of $69,660, an income bump of 3.3 percent. Compare that with the a tax cut of $870, or 1.6 percent, for the average household earning $50,000 to $75,000.

not sure of the variables your cut/paste used, but i initially took it for what it said, and believed it, as i catch myself often doing as we all know that if's posted on the internet, specifically in a news related article such as that you (didn't) sourced your word for word sentence from, it must be true . . . well, bonjour, motherfvcker, it's not.

so, after my initial "he got me" reaction, i decided to check the numbers . . . once again, i'm sure you'll believe you still got me, but numbers don't lie, and, once again, you didn't get me. i compared $75K to $1MM taxable income under both the prior tax structure and the new structure. under the new structure, $75K in taxable income will pay 2.9% less in tax while taxable income of $1MM will pay 2.2% less in tax. while, yes, obviously the guy who makes more is going to benefit more monetarily, the guy who makes less is going to benefit at a higher percentage of savings.

check your trump hating links for accuracy prior to posting in the future, you'll look like less of a dumbass . . . although we'll all know that, yes, you're still a dumbass.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

check your effective tax rate when you file for 2018 and compare it to your 2017 tax paid directly from your tax return. don't forget to thank trump for the lower percentage.

people bullshitting about not seeing a change in their paychecks should really just shut the fvck up to avoid showing their ignorance of the tax system, both old and new. how's the old saying go, "better to keep your mouth shut and let people keep thinking you're a dumbass than opening it and proving them right."

I'll be too busy bitching I have to pay the state...like I do every year.

You really think I am bullshitting? Seriously, I am not. It just has nothing to do with tax cuts.

 

[big_country90]

Then again, I'm not rich like BC and Rox.

Murox is uber-rich. I’m just plain old rich-rich.

 

[mlblack16.]

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check your trump hating links for accuracy prior to posting in the future, you'll look like less of a dumbass . . . although we'll all know that, yes, you're still a dumbass.

Come on man, do you honestly believe he even understands what he's copying/pasting enough to validate its accuracy?

 

[WV-FAN]

I'll be too busy bitching I have to pay the state...like I do every year.

You really think I am bullshitting? Seriously, I am not. It just has nothing to do with tax cuts.

no, i don't think you're bullshitting, you don't see it because your pay check varies so much. only those who get 40 every single week or are paid salary actually see it. guarantee you will not pay as much in tax for 2018 as you will for 2017.

 

[extragreen]

not sure of the variables your cut/paste used, but i initially took it for what it said, and believed it, as i catch myself often doing as we all know that if's posted on the internet, specifically in a news related article such as that you (didn't) sourced your word for word sentence from, it must be true . . . well, bonjour, motherfvcker, it's not.

so, after my initial "he got me" reaction, i decided to check the numbers . . . once again, i'm sure you'll believe you still got me, but numbers don't lie, and, once again, you didn't get me. i compared $75K to $1MM taxable income under both the prior tax structure and the new structure. under the new structure, $75K in taxable income will pay 2.9% less in tax while taxable income of $1MM will pay 2.2% less in tax. while, yes, obviously the guy who makes more is going to benefit more monetarily, the guy who makes less is going to benefit at a higher percentage of savings.

check your trump hating links for accuracy prior to posting in the future, you'll look like less of a dumbass . . . although we'll all know that, yes, you're still a dumbass.

No, moron, you just can't comprehend what is written. The comparison is between a group of households making an average of $50,000 - $75,000 to a group of households making $1,000,000 or more.