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i hope i can quit working in a few years - a look at america after cons did away w/ pensions

dherd

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Feb 23, 2007
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THE AMERICA THE GOP WANTS, BUT WAIT THESE PEOPLE HAVE IT TO EASY
THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE TOO.
COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM ON DISPLAY.

TULSA — Tom Coomer has retired twice: once when he was 65, and then several years ago. Each time he realized that with just a Social Security check, “You can hardly make it these days.”

So here he is at 79, working full time at Walmart. During each eight-hour shift, he stands at the store entrance greeting customers, telling a joke and fetching a “buggy.” Or he is stationed at the exit, checking receipts and the shoppers that trip the theft alarm.

“As long as I sit down for about 10 minutes every hour or two, I’m fine,” he said during a break. Diagnosed with spinal stenosis in his back, he recently forwarded a doctor’s note to managers. “They got me a stool.”

The way major U.S. companies provide for retiring workers has been shifting for about three decades, with more dropping traditional pensions every year. The first full generation of workers to retire since this turn offers a sobering preview of a labor force more and more dependent on their own savings for retirement.

Years ago, Coomer and his co-workers at the Tulsa plant of McDonnell-Douglas, the famed airplane maker, were enrolled in the company pension, but in 1994, with an eye toward cutting retirement costs, the company closed the plant. Now, The Washington Post found in a review of those 998 workers, that even though most of them found new jobs, they could never replace their lost pension benefits and many are facing financial struggle in their old age: One in seven has in their retirement years filed for bankruptcy, faced liens for delinquent bills, or both, according to public records.
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And for many of them, even as they reach beyond 70, real retirement is elusive. Although they worked for decades at McDonnell-Douglas, many of the septuagenarians are still working, some full time.

Lavern Combs, 73, works the midnight shift loading trucks for a company that delivers for Amazon. Ruby Oakley, 74, is a crossing guard. Charles Glover, 70, is a cashier at Dollar General. Willie Sells, 74, is a barber. Leon Ray, 76, buys and sells junk.

Then corporate America changed: Union membership waned. Executive boards, under pressure from financial raiders, focused more intently on maximizing stock prices.

Then corporate America changed: Union membership waned. Executive boards, under pressure from financial raiders, focused more intently on maximizing stock prices.
 
The disappointing thing is the promises made to them that never came to fruition. Some of that corporate America change is for the better - at least now they're not lying to employees about pie in the sky pensions they'll get when they retire.


the "Cons" didn't get rid of pensions...financial reality did. They're not sustainable. Like socialism, good on paper but not a lot of real world success out there.

Where we would agree is that these workers that were promised pensions were screwed. The high end admins you better believe made out ok though.

At this point though, given the history of pensions...its buyer beware. I would never advise anyone to take a job where the biggest perk is a pension...because it probably won't be there.
 
the "Cons" didn't get rid of pensions...financial reality did. They're not sustainable. Like socialism, good on paper but not a lot of real world success out there.

WRONG! REAGAN OPENED THE DOOR AND ALL THE "GREED IS GOOD" PIGGIES
RAN THROUGHT IT.

NOW 30 YEARS LATER WHEN THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE RETIRING WE SEE THE
RESULTS.

LOOK IT UP.

BUT THATS NOT BAD ENOUGH NOW THEY WANT TO RUN UP THE DEBT EVEN
MORE THAN THEY DID UNDER REAGAN & GW BUSH AND USE IT AS AN EXCUSE
TO ELIMINATE SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

AFTER ALL - WHAT DO THEIR POLITICAL CASH COWS NEED WITH SOS SEC
AND MEDICARE - THEY ARE ALL RICH ANYWAY.
 
One must work in order to quit working. I am hoping one day you will learn the difference between new/knew and to/too.
 
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