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I know who to blame for school shootings

sistersville

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Its the spoiled rotten kids themselves. In almost all the cases it was a student being treated like c rap by other students. The students who didn't treat some of the shooters bad were like the good people during Jim crow era. Martin Luther King said something like the worst crime of all were the silence of the good people. Yep kids protesting guns instead of looking at themselves. Well anyway these teenagers are either pawns of teachers or parents anyway in the protesting.
 
The problem is that we let the cultural Marxists fundamentally transform our nation and culture. They've removed the moral constraints necessary to maintain Western Civilization.
 
The problem is that we let the cultural Marxists fundamentally transform our nation and culture. They've removed the moral constraints necessary to maintain Western Civilization.

It's the fault of the liberal celebrities (not politicians). Those celebrities are posting on social media that pedophiles are just regular people like gays. Isn't that right, Billy Boy?
 
It's the fault of the liberal celebrities (not politicians). Those celebrities are posting on social media that pedophiles are just regular people like gays. Isn't that right, Billy Boy?

You always forget to include the word "activist" after celebrities. It's kind of an important distinction. Maybe the syphilis from your sordid sexual history is eating your brain.
 
You always forget to include the word "activist" after celebrities. It's kind of an important distinction. Maybe the syphilis from your sordid sexual history is eating your brain.

The word "activist" was before "celebrity," not after. Christ, can you continue to be any more wrong? Regardless, you have "activist/celebrity" and noted not political activists/celebrities. So, go ahead. Show me all of these prominent activists/celebrities who are making the statements that you claimed:

"Apparently you haven't been on twitter/facebook... where a few prominent liberals (activist/celebrity not political) have made mention of the fact that pedophiles, like LGBTQ and he/she's or she/he's are just normal people."
 
The word "activist" was before "celebrity," not after. Christ, can you continue to be any more wrong? Regardless, you have "activist/celebrity" and noted not political activists/celebrities. So, go ahead. Show me all of these prominent activists/celebrities who are making the statements that you claimed:

"Apparently you haven't been on twitter/facebook... where a few prominent liberals (activist/celebrity not political) have made mention of the fact that pedophiles, like LGBTQ and he/she's or she/he's are just normal people."

I hate to tell you this, you values-perverting hoodlum, but your inferiority complex is fully justified.
 
So you all think the students didn't cause some of this?

We all have the power of 'choice'. These students have chosen poorly. What I'm saying is that their ability to discern right from wrong and moral from evil is handicapped because of the state of the culture they are being raised in.
 
We all have the power of 'choice'. These students have chosen poorly. What I'm saying is that their ability to discern right from wrong and moral from evil is handicapped because of the state of the culture they are being raised in.
Gee Bill its worse than I thought. They treat some kids like trash and don't realize it. Nope that BS. If so never allow the heathens to walk out of school. They need to be seen not heard if its as bad as you pointed out Bill. You said they chosen poorly. Here we say " they treated kids like trash. Your way is painting a softer way,
We all have the power of 'choice'. These students have chosen poorly. What I'm saying is that their ability to discern right from wrong and moral from evil is handicapped because of the state of the culture they are being raised in.
The word parents has to be in this discussion
 
Its the spoiled rotten kids themselves. In almost all the cases it was a student being treated like c rap by other students. The students who didn't treat some of the shooters bad were like the good people during Jim crow era. Martin Luther King said something like the worst crime of all were the silence of the good people. Yep kids protesting guns instead of looking at themselves. Well anyway these teenagers are either pawns of teachers or parents anyway in the protesting.
Sisters take your Lexapro
 
The problem is that we let the cultural Marxists fundamentally transform our nation and culture. They've removed the moral constraints necessary to maintain Western Civilization.

Do you really believe that...that school shootings are a result of moral restraints being removed by some kind of socialist transformation? This is a country that just elected Donald Trump. Studies of the mass shootings show very little evidence that a political ideology plays into it. I understand the need to package everything that’s wrong in a way that validates our own world view, but trying to promote a simple cause for a complex issue just doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

The fact is that there is no clear evidence that indicts political affiliation, ideology, video games, or anything else to mass shootings. These people share no common mantra. That’s what makes dealing with the issue so difficult. There’s no clear evidence of a common thread between the shooters. Blaming this on liberalism, conservatism, or Marxism incites but doesn’t solve.
 
Do you really believe that...that school shootings are a result of moral restraints being removed by some kind of socialist transformation?

Yes. For the last 70 years there has been a concerted effort to fundamentally secularized Western Civilization. This has resulted in the decline into a moral quagmire that we have seen since the 60's especially.

Studies of the mass shootings show very little evidence that a political ideology plays into it.

Marxism is more than a political ideology, it's a civilization altering philosophy.

trying to promote a simple cause for a complex issue just doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

It's always simple God vs evil.
 
But none of that addresses how this supposed moral decline leads to mass shootings. What’s the link between this “civilization altering philosophy” and mass shootings? A way to help me understand your point of view would be to tell me what exactly are you referring to when you civilization altering philosophy? We still hold elections. We still are a capitalistic society and the most ecomically advantaged country on earth. We still provide the path to wealth without having to be born into it. We are one of the most fundamentally Christian nations on the planet despite the noise from non believers. What exactly are you talking about?

And after you establish that, how does that lead to mass shootings? I’m sincerely trying to understand you.
 
A way to help me understand your point of view would be to tell me what exactly are you referring to when you civilization altering philosophy?

Have you heard of The Frankfort School and cultural Marxism? It's important for understanding what I'm saying.

We still hold elections.

With the exception of a few outliers the uniparty has had control for decades. The appearance of choice is mostly an illusion. Until Trump that is, he has broken there control and it scares the shit out of them.

We still are a capitalistic society

We have a crony capitalistic society built on a fiat money system and the myth of free trade. The deck has been stacked so that the wealthy stay that way and the rest of us fund them.

We are one of the most fundamentally Christian nations on the planet

There is a difference between professing to be a Christian and following The Way of Christ. The sexual revolution and 2nd and 3rd wave feminism have broken down an important moral imperative set in place from the beginning of time. Their are consequences for these actions. I mean we've murdered 50+ million unborn children as well as countless millions in foreign wars to enrich our corporate masters. We have no right to claim to be a moral nation any more.

And after you establish that, how does that lead to mass shootings?

Mass shootings are simply a symptom of the sickness. A very emotionally involved one, but just a symptom non the less.
 
Ok...let me see if I have this straight. There's a school in Germany that teaches socialist theory, the belief that the two parties are growing similar in cause (uniparty), the fact that the wealthy keep winning, and the feminist movement are causing men to shoot up schools?

Ok...so I have to ask...how does a school in Europe influence mass shootings? How do we blame mass shootings as being the symptom of this new sick society yet the wealthy have been stacking the deck since the beginning of commerce? People not following "The Way of Christ" has been decried since the 1600s, and the women's movement is now 50 years old. Is there some kind of delayed societal backlash manifesting itself in an increase in mass shootings?

I personally struggle to see the connection. Your post appears to be an attempt to just throw out intellectual sounding descriptions that show no causal relation to your assertion and hope the argument gets lost in big words and pseudo intellectual analogies.

You still fail to convince me.
 
And another thing...how can a person decry the moral decline of America citing the sexual revolution and support a president that's anything but morally balanced. Using your logic can we now assert that Trump is responsible in part for these mass shootings with his sexual exploits, paying of porn stars, and cheating while his wife was pregnant?

I mean...how did you put it...isn't there "a difference between professing to be a Christian and following the Way of Christ".
 
You still fail to convince me.

I'm not trying to convince you. Do your research and come to your own conclusions. I've been at this for a decade and I have neither the time or inclination to teach you everything from the beginning. I will answer interesting and pertinant questions and point you to good sources if you're so inclined.
 
I'm not trying to convince you. Do your research and come to your own conclusions. I've been at this for a decade and I have neither the time or inclination to teach you everything from the beginning. I will answer interesting and pertinant questions and point you to good sources if you're so inclined.

A Few Good Men. Let me guess...you eat breakfast 300 yards from 4000 Cubans trained to kill you?

No need to research...I've learned all I need to know from you.
 
And now you know why I didn't waste my time with you. Remain ignorant, it's no skin off my back.
 
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And now you know why I didn't was my time with you. Remain ignorant, it's no skin off my back.

You do realize that I'm not really asking you to teach me anything, right?

I'm simply asking you to explain yourself because I understand that your argument is tenuous at best and would break down if you had to explain yourself. You are blaming a complex problem on totally unrelated gibberish. You fail to offer any related common thread that could remotely link the hodge podge of stuff you threw out with mass shootings and now you're lecturing me as though you are some kind of authority with enlightened understanding .

With all due respect to the "decades you've been at it," any close examination of what you assert makes it easy to discredit. As impressed as you appear to be with your own words, and as sincere as you purport to be in helping me somehow grasp at such higher level thinking, you did absolutely nothing to link mass shootings to some kind of societal moral decline.
 
You do realize that I'm not really asking you to teach me anything, right?

Yes, I am aware.

I'm simply asking you to explain yourself because I understand that your argument is tenuous at best and would break down if you had to explain yourself.

You know nothing about me, and likely nothing about my argument(s).

what you assert makes it easy to discredit.

::roll eyes::

you did absolutely nothing to link mass shootings to some kind of societal moral decline.

I was trying to lay a foundation to build on as we moved forward. As you keep saying this is a very complex issue, of which mass shootings is only a symptom. You don't seem willing to even try to understand my side of it though, so...
 
Ok...fair enough. You're making an attempt to keep this civil. It's not that I'm not trying to understand you. It's just that I don't see the relationship between the societal woes you point to and their link to mass shootings.
 
You're making an attempt to keep this civil.

As a general rule I always start interactions civilly and then adjust according to whom I am dealing with.

It's not that I'm not trying to understand you.

To understand what I believe you have to start with the Frankfurt School and the implementation of Cultural Marxist ideology all over the West after WWII.
 
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