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Imagine That. Illegal Killed Her

Might as well deport all white males in their early 30s...the most likely group to be sex offenders (I assume the intitial harrassmemt was sexual in nature.)

Emperical evidence shows no connection with increased illegal immigration and crime. If you want to oppose illegals on other grounds go ahead, but this angle has always been a dog-whistle up the wrong tree.
 
Might as well deport all white males in their early 30s...the most likely group to be sex offenders (I assume the intitial harrassmemt was sexual in nature.)

Emperical evidence shows no connection with increased illegal immigration and crime. If you want to oppose illegals on other grounds go ahead, but this angle has always been a dog-whistle up the wrong tree.
Maybe so, but he was illegal and in our country illegally. I don't give a damn. Build the wall and/or enforce our borders.
 
Might as well deport all white males in their early 30s...the most likely group to be sex offenders (I assume the intitial harrassmemt was sexual in nature.)

Emperical evidence shows no connection with increased illegal immigration and crime. If you want to oppose illegals on other grounds go ahead, but this angle has always been a dog-whistle up the wrong tree.

There is, by definition, an increase in crime at the exact location of every illegal immigrant.
 
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you still think trump is going to build a wall? you still think Mexico is going to pay for it?
trump is too busy trying figure out how he and his crime family are going to stay out
of jail to worry about anything else. his only thoughts about walls are about how to
get over one from the inside of a federal prison. but I guess you have to have something
to believe in - not much is left - why not a wall.




AND HERDMAN - WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT ALL THESE ALIGATORS?
 
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you still think trump is going to build a wall? you still think Mexico is going to pay for it?
trump is too busy trying figure out how he and his crime family are going to stay out
of jail to worry about anything else. his only thoughts about walls are about how to
get over one from the inside of a federal prison. but I guess you have to have something
to believe in - not much is left - why not a wall.




AND HERDMAN - WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT ALL THESE ALIGATORS?
Many of the states have hunting season on alligators.
 
the trump administration has driven the crime rate through the roof.
1600 pensylvania avenue has the highest per capita crime rate in the world
the last 18 months.
 
Entering the United States illegally is a felony, you know, a real crime.

Wrong, it is a misdemeanor. https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-8-aliens-and-nationality/8-usc-sect-1325.html

Re-entry after being deported, now that is a felony.

Oddly enough, just being here illegally is not a crime. Let's say you overstay your visa, that's a civil matter and not a criminal one.

So no, it is not a "real crime", and I didn't mean felony by that, I wouldn't care if Paul Manafort lived next door to me but I would not want a killer or rapist next door.
 
So, are some of you justifying entering our country illegally? Some of these folks are the lowest of the low.
 
Entering the United States illegally is a felony, you know, a real crime.

This isn't an attack on Banker, but just an observation: how do so many people have false knowledge on so many things which I thought most - at least educated people - would know?

This is just one of many, many examples. Do most educated people think that entering the country illegally is a felony?

Raoul said re-entry after being deported is a felony, and I don't even believe that is true. I believe it is similar to DUI laws in some states where you have to have been convicted twice of the misdemeanor, and then the third illegal entry is a felony.
 
Raoul said re-entry after being deported is a felony, and I don't even believe that is true. I believe it is similar to DUI laws in some states where you have to have been convicted twice of the misdemeanor, and then the third illegal entry is a felony.

There's some legal question as to if "deported" and "removed" are the same thing, but basically DOJ can nail you for two years in prison if you come back within 5 years. A two year sentence in federal court is by definition for a felony under Title 18.

Now, if you come back because you were deported for committing a felony or being a consistent misdemeanor machine you can get 10 to 20 depending on the circumstances.
 
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This isn't an attack on Banker, but just an observation: how do so many people have false knowledge on so many things which I thought most - at least educated people - would know?

This is just one of many, many examples. Do most educated people think that entering the country illegally is a felony?

Raoul said re-entry after being deported is a felony, and I don't even believe that is true. I believe it is similar to DUI laws in some states where you have to have been convicted twice of the misdemeanor, and then the third illegal entry is a felony.

Regardless we have a right to kick their ass out.
 
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This isn't an attack on Banker, but just an observation: how do so many people have false knowledge on so many things which I thought most - at least educated people - would know?.

A. Assumption.
B. Read it on some blog. This is why if I want to learn something I go straight to the source, in the case the United States Code.
C. They are bullshitting.
 
Regardless we have a right to kick their ass out.

We do, but there are bigger fish to fry than going after Jose that is working 14 hour days in construction. I thought you guys were for smaller government? It's the same across the board for me; technically it is a felony if someone sells you a joint, but I don't want to waste resources (tax money and manpower) on that guy.

And there is a moral issue. Forget the law for a second...we created a demand for Jose to come here and build houses, knew full well we would need immigrant labor for all these houses, didn't legally admit the labor and winked and nodded when Jose showed up. I can't in good conscience turn around and fvck Jose for what we asked of him and let him do. If you want to go after the Americans who got rich winking and nodding, I have no argument with that, they are the real criminals if anyone is.
 
since you liberals are for open borders how many people should we allow to come here.? Million a year? How about 10 million? What if 50 million want to come?
 
since you liberals are for open borders how many people should we allow to come here.? Million a year? How about 10 million? What if 50 million want to come?

Supply and demand. I thought conservatives were into economics? And believe me, economics shaped Reagan and the Bush's views on this topic. We wouldn't be having this discussion if enough Americans wanted/could do the jobs they do. That's why we winked and nodded. Refuges of course are a different discussion, and I don't have an easy answer to that one. These women and kids crossing the border are not from Mexico, they are fleeing Central American violence.
 
Supply and demand. I thought conservatives were into economics? And believe me, economics shaped Reagan and the Bush's views on this topic. We wouldn't be having this discussion if enough Americans wanted/could do the jobs they do. That's why we winked and nodded. Refuges of course are a different discussion, and I don't have an easy answer to that one. These women and kids crossing the border are not from Mexico, they are fleeing Central American violence.
Mexicans are in Iowa for work on farms. Mostly hog farms. Not many white people want to work on hog farms but by god they love to smoke their ribs and pork butt every weekend.

There are entire counties in Iowa that have been overtaken by Mexicans. In this case the farmer says he properly vetted this individual through e verify which is the law.
 
Mexicans are in Iowa for work on farms. Mostly hog farms. Not many white people want to work on hog farms but by god they love to smoke their ribs and pork butt every weekend.

There are entire counties in Iowa that have been overtaken by Mexicans. In this case the farmer says he properly vetted this individual through e verify which is the law.

Yeah, I don't see a bunch of city or suburban kids signing up for a career in hog shit.

Both the conservative and liberal utopias are fairy tales. That's why there is no pragmatism today, the people who give a damn are polarized by bullshit.
 
seriously, why do we want to open the borders and allow anybody to come into the country without going through a process to obtain citizenship legally? what's the point of law against illegal entry if we're against enforcing it?

is there any country on earth where you can go with intentions of staying without going through a process to obtain citizenship? why should the United States be the only one to allow it? i struggle with someone thinking it's okay to allow immigrants into the country without going through the process to obtain citizenship.

just another thing that makes me believe liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
 
seriously, why do we want to open the borders and allow anybody to come into the country without going through a process to obtain citizenship legally? what's the point of law against illegal entry if we're against enforcing it?

I absolutely agree with this. I also know that for political reasons neither party has allowed enough temp farm worker permits/visas, so no shit illegals then have to fill the rest of the void. We have winked and nodded about this for decades. This here was rich Republican farmers doing it. It's not a party issue. I will tell you this though: legal or illegal, without these workers a lot of you people will not be eating very well.
 
I absolutely agree with this. I also know that for political reasons neither party has allowed enough temp farm worker permits/visas, so no shit illegals then have to fill the rest of the void. We have winked and nodded about this for decades. This here was rich Republican farmers doing it. It's not a party issue. I will tell you this though: legal or illegal, without these workers a lot of you people will not be eating very well.
then build the fvckin wall up the california border and sell it off to mexico.
 
I will tell you this though: legal or illegal, without these workers a lot of you people will not be eating very well.

I have actually entered a small diner in southern Ohio in the morning to find several local tomato farmers watching Fox News while eating breakfast and yelling at the tv about "making America great again." These same farmers are employing migrant workers.
 
I have actually entered a small diner in southern Ohio in the morning to find several local tomato farmers watching Fox News while eating breakfast and yelling at the tv about "making America great again." These same farmers are employing migrant workers.
migrant, or illegal aliens? yuge difference.
 
I have actually entered a small diner in southern Ohio in the morning to find several local tomato farmers watching Fox News while eating breakfast and yelling at the tv about "making America great again." These same farmers are employing migrant workers.
By chance, was it these guys?

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