Iran treaty

[ThunderCat98]

Good job on that treaty president obama and SoS kerry.

Solid work.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iran-fires-2-missiles-marked-israel-must-wiped-071612751.html

 

[extragreen]

What's your point? The missiles are not banned under the treaty.

 

[herdfan429]

It's not a treaty

 

[extragreen]

So it's not a formal agreement between two or more states in reference to peace, alliance, commerce, or other international relations

 

[i am herdman]

A treaty has to be approved by the Senate. POTUS can negotiate agreements and propose them but POTUS is supposed to bring them to the Senate for ratification.

 

[extragreen]

A treaty has to be approved by the Senate. POTUS can negotiate agreements and propose them but POTUS is supposed to bring them to the Senate for ratification.

That's U S law, not international law.

 

[GeauxHerd]

That's U S law, not international law.

No. International Treaties MUST be Approved by the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Clause

 

[extragreen]

"Treaties, in the U. S. sense, are not the only type of binding international agreement. Congressional-Executive agreements and Sole Executive agreements may also be binding.....Congress may supersede a prior inconsistent treaty or Congressional-Executive agreement as a matter of U. S. law, but not as a matter of international law."

It's a treaty, but if you like, we can call it a Sole Executive agreement.

https://www.asil.org/insights/volume/2/issue/5/international-agreements-and-us-law

 

[raleighherdfan]

Good to know. That way when this thing totally blows up in our face and in the faces of the allies we have left we can completely blame Obummer for another international failure......at which point EG/GT will argue the exact opposite of what he did here....that the president didn't actually sign a treaty resulting in such an outcome.