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Iran's been developing nukes?!?!

ThunderCat98

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Stay on topic, retard. This thread is about Obama and Kerry's failed nuke deal. You know - the one every sane person in the world thought was f*cking ignorant when they entered into it.
 
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Stay on topic, retard. This thread is about Obama and Kerry's failed nuke deal. You know - the one every sane person in the world thought was f*cking ignorant when they entered into it.

Hey, moron, there are no sane people in the conservative base. Now, why don't you provide proof that the iran deal failed. moron.
 
thanks once again, Bill Clinton, for giving Iran plans to build nuclear weapons in what has to be the dumbest plan ever
 
This isn’t just a bunch of emails and copies of documents. The Israelis took originals and then announced it to the world. Mossad is the most bad ass intelligence agency on earth. Just imagine the Iranians realizing these documents were taken right out from under their noses
 
This isn’t just a bunch of emails and copies of documents. The Israelis took originals and then announced it to the world. Mossad is the most bad ass intelligence agency on earth. Just imagine the Iranians realizing these documents were taken right out from under their noses

Why don't you actually take a closer look at what netanyahu is saying. It's not what you want it to be.
 
Why don't you actually take a closer look at what netanyahu is saying. It's not what you want it to be.
I know what it says. It reaffirms what everyone already knew that Iran was seeking to develop nuclear weapons
 
I don’t know how Democrat politicians can be so dumb as to believe the leaders in places like Iran. There isn’t a person I know who was shocked to hear that Iran has been lying to us all along. He only logical conclusion is that people like Obama and Clinton knew and didn’t really care.
 
I don’t know how Democrat politicians can be so dumb as to believe the leaders in places like Iran. There isn’t a person I know who was shocked to hear that Iran has been lying to us all along. He only logical conclusion is that people like Obama and Clinton knew and didn’t really care.
You and keeper do know that everything Netanyahu presented yesterday was already known and had been for some time. All he did was show the Iranian source material
 
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The point being, if Iran was hiding all this from Obama and Co. before (which they were, or Obama was lying to the American people - a trait you libs harp on as it pertains to Trump), do you really think they've been, and will continue to be, compliant with that paper tiger agreement the last administration put together? Curiously, I didn't see any responses yesterday from the Obama camp/backers that put this deal together. Probably circling the wagons to decide which way they want to spin it.
 
The point being, if Iran was hiding all this from Obama and Co. before (which they were,

If "obama and co. didn't think iran desired nuclear weapon capability, then what's the reason for the iran deal?

or Obama was lying to the American people

What was the lie?

do you really think they've been, and will continue to be, compliant with that paper tiger agreement the last administration put together?

The inspectors state that iran is compliant. Secondly, if you're concerned about iran not complying, then what makes you think rocket man will?
 
Do we celebrate the NK/SK handshake on the DMZ as though Trump hard line rhetoric has solved the issue and then denounce past presidents for having the same optimism?

I think that time will tell whether any of these agreements or overt displays of compliance and conciliation are successful. The problem here in my estimation is that we want to believe these efforts to be successful or not only by the litmus of our own political leanings. The truth is, if some of these countries want nukes, there's very little a president can do to prevent it with acts of diplomacy. Iran's secret development of nukes is no more Obama's fault as it would be Trump's fault if we discover that NK is doing the same thing three or four years down the road.

War could prevent it, but at what cost? We've certainly lost our stomach for it and rightfully so. So these agreements and accords will continue for every president regardless of affiliation. Their success or not will most often be out of their control.
 
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Do we celebrate the NK/SK handshake on the DMZ as though Trump hard line rhetoric has solved the issue and then denounce past presidents for having the same optimism?

I think that time will tell whether any of these agreements or overt displays of compliance and conciliation are successful. The problem here in my estimation is that we want to believe these efforts to be successful or not only by the litmus of our own political leanings. The truth is, if some of these countries want nukes, there's very little a president can do to prevent it with acts of diplomacy. Iran's secret development of nukes is no more Obama's fault as it would be Trump's fault if we discover that NK is doing the same thing three or four years down the road.

War could prevent it, but at what cost? We've certainly lost our stomach for it and rightfully so. So these agreements and accords will continue for every president regardless of affiliation. Their success or not will most often be out of their control.

Now now, let's not be rational...
 
Curiously, I didn't see any responses yesterday from the Obama camp/backers that put this deal together.

You must not have looked very hard, they were out there. The consensus seemed to be, "no shit, Sherlock". Again, and this is logical, there would be no need for a deal/military action/nuke them to hell if Iran was a peaceful regime that didn't want a nuclear arsenal.

If you have a plan to solve this without high numbers of American causalities and spending $10 trillion, I am all ears. Or if you can guarantee it's cool with everyone else if we just nuke them.
 
For telling you Muslims want to nuke Jews and used to live in tents and chop each others' heads off? I mean, that's pretty much a party plank of the GOP. You are one worthless idiot jerkoff.

i just enjoy it when you get angry about being a leftist...i guess you at least realize it now? smart guy
 
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Now now, let's not be rational...

I've stayed out of the conversation re: NK for that very reason. While I think several factors have played a role in the current situation, to include the U.S.'s hardline stance, I think the overwhelming driver there is $$$.
 
I've stayed out of the conversation re: NK for that very reason. While I think several factors have played a role in the current situation, to include the U.S.'s hardline stance, I think the overwhelming driver there is $$$.

I've always believed that NK's nuke program is more about being dealt in than it is about military aspirations. This guy wants to be relevant on a world stage. Develop nukes...or the fear of it...will be a bargaining chip to negotiating the sanctions he's under.
 
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I've stayed out of the conversation re: NK for that very reason. While I think several factors have played a role in the current situation, to include the U.S.'s hardline stance, I think the overwhelming driver there is $$$.

There will be money, for sure.

North Korea has promised peace like a dozen times. I just don't trust them. Hell, I trust Iran more; they make no promise to be peaceful, they've been conducting proxy war against Israel and US interests since 1980, we know what we are dealing with there.
 
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