Johnny Manziel
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Sorry for being harsh. He comes from a rich family and has money so getting help makes him fortunate. I ama n/a counselor and poor folk have it harder. Alot go cold turkey.That is 100 times harder than laying in malibu in a rehab.
cold turkey from what sisters. I haven't seen anything that says what his issue is. Cocaine, alcohol, meth, what u say it is counselor?
Seeing your attempts at making any sort of coherent responses allows me to think you're pretty bad at being a counselor.
I'm a therapist myself and let me enlighten you...
Addiction does not discriminate. It will affect the poorest and wealthiest people on Earth.
There are treatment facilities that could be seen as a vacation getaway, but coming from a city life-style and high-paced day by transactions...a weekend in the woods IS therapy. Why else would they have them in such relaxing spots?
I also work with wealthy and less wealthy individuals. Some of my best clients who've made the biggest strides, come from homes where you're asked, "You don't mind cockroaches, do you?"
It's all a matter of initiative...taking that first step and knowing that your long-term investment in therapy and rehab, is going to ultimately help you in the long-run.
No doubt Johnny's going to have faster access to facilities to help him out, but he, like everyone else, MUST START SOMEWHERE...and that start is from within.
He will be treated just the same as anyone else...as a client, with a therapist, doing group, all the same. He'll be in there with all sorts of people, some who may be worse off than he is or better off than he is. That's the idea of group, it'll help you see perspectives of things you never thought possible.
I would do an Adlerian approach for long-term along with citing and highlighting specific positive values and support systems he has in place. Solution Focused would also benefit for him...of course, I don't know WHAT his issue is, but I bet it's probably the pressure of living up to his own hype and adjustment issues of transitioning from college to the NFL is probably pretty prominent.
Just my guess...
But
I would never, EVER make fun of someone for entering rehab. Regardless of how they may portray themselves in the media. Some people really need it. I hope he won't relapse, but the relapse rate is ridiculously high and with a social profile like his, it will be difficult but doable.
I wish him the best. Not just as a therapist but as a person who wouldn't mind seeing a feel good story in a sport contaminated with controversy, corruption, and negativity. Also, for those who are presently living in this sh*thole we call the world, some hope for humanity.
Sisters, I really feel embarrassed to consider you in the same field I am in...and for what you've written, go fuc.k yourself.
I'm a therapist myself and let me enlighten you...
Addiction does not discriminate. It will affect the poorest and wealthiest people on Earth.
There are treatment facilities that could be seen as a vacation getaway, but coming from a city life-style and high-paced day by transactions...a weekend in the woods IS therapy. Why else would they have them in such relaxing spots?
I also work with wealthy and less wealthy individuals. Some of my best clients who've made the biggest strides, come from homes where you're asked, "You don't mind cockroaches, do you?"
It's all a matter of initiative...taking that first step and knowing that your long-term investment in therapy and rehab, is going to ultimately help you in the long-run.
No doubt Johnny's going to have faster access to facilities to help him out, but he, like everyone else, MUST START SOMEWHERE...and that start is from within.
He will be treated just the same as anyone else...as a client, with a therapist, doing group, all the same. He'll be in there with all sorts of people, some who may be worse off than he is or better off than he is. That's the idea of group, it'll help you see perspectives of things you never thought possible.
I would do an Adlerian approach for long-term along with citing and highlighting specific positive values and support systems he has in place. Solution Focused would also benefit for him...of course, I don't know WHAT his issue is, but I bet it's probably the pressure of living up to his own hype and adjustment issues of transitioning from college to the NFL is probably pretty prominent.
Just my guess...
But
I would never, EVER make fun of someone for entering rehab. Regardless of how they may portray themselves in the media. Some people really need it. I hope he won't relapse, but the relapse rate is ridiculously high and with a social profile like his, it will be difficult but doable.
I wish him the best. Not just as a therapist but as a person who wouldn't mind seeing a feel good story in a sport contaminated with controversy, corruption, and negativity. Also, for those who are presently living in this sh*thole we call the world, some hope for humanity.
Sisters, I really feel embarrassed to consider you in the same field I am in...and for what you've written, go fuc.k yourself.
How's he a dumbass? He was smart enough to realize he needed help. That's more than 90% of people with drug/alcohol problems... and that's coming from someone that doesn't care for him at all.
As a Browns fan and watching the debacle that is the Browns organization this year, I would bet anything they told Johnny to either check into rehab or get cut. He was partying the week after football was over. I don't think this came from just him. I think this was a forced situation.
Terrible choice of words. Not a dumbass but a addict. I work for a counselor with zero funds. All oxycotin or heroin addicts. Treated with suboxen or subzolv. More than half cant afford the 300 dollar fee at the dr.The medicine is usually held up by P/As'. Alot drop out. I help people get to their dr appountments or to meetlings. I wish i had funds to give away. We had several people get their lives back and keep their jobs. But suboxen is addictive too. I will step down.
This post was edited on 2/3 10:04 AM by sistersville
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If you understood our situation you could understand my post. Insurance does not cover suboxen or the dr visit. In january that was supposed to change but it didnt. These dr's have a cash cow. The patients cant see their dr or get medicine without money
Secondly the medicine to get them off smack addictions or oxys is addictive as well. The best cases are those who wing themselves off suboxen in a month or 2. Most all the patients can barely afford to get treatment. I dont like helping the dr's make all this money of an addict.Addiction hits every group of people. I worked with those who have no money. 300 dollars every 28 days at the main dr they send our people to.if you have to pay for 60 suboxen thats around 600
So with no money its 900 a month
I hate pills and alcohol. Never in my life have I ever been misunderstood and the above post by Mr Educated idiot herdstruck you probably wouldn't help anybody if not paid. Your jibberish might work with winthorpe and pals at the country club but a lot of poor folk wouldn't come to treatment with YOUR KIND. I HELP POOR ADDICTS
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Secondly the medicine to get them off smack addictions or oxys is addictive as well. The best cases are those who wing themselves off suboxen in a month or 2. Most all the patients can barely afford to get treatment. I dont like helping the dr's make all this money of an addict.Addiction hits every group of people. I worked with those who have no money. 300 dollars every 28 days at the main dr they send our people to.if you have to pay for 60 suboxen thats around 600
So with no money its 900 a month
I hate pills and alcohol. Never in my life have I ever been misunderstood and the above post by Mr Educated idiot herdstruck you probably wouldn't help anybody if not paid. Your jibberish might work with winthorpe and pals at the country club but a lot of poor folk wouldn't come to treatment with YOUR KIND. I HELP POOR ADDICTS
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We are outpatient and help those nobody wants to help THE POOR
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HIP I guarantee you its not just alcohol. Some people wont admit to drug use. Silly considering alcohol is a drug. Probably pain pills maybe snorting coke on weekends but just a quess.
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I think sisters has more of a challenge communicating with his patients than they have getting straight. What a prime example of his inability to do so right here.
I wish you all could meet me. I have no trouble communicating. Decades in the mines I lost any chance of commicating by typing
. Call me. I will give a number you can call. Not bragging at all but the patients keep me from walking away. Been in their shoes. My best advice, you can't get addicted to something you never try.
. Call me. I will give a number you can call. Not bragging at all but the patients keep me from walking away. Been in their shoes. My best advice, you can't get addicted to something you never try.
My best advice, you can't get addicted to something you never try.
Actually that advice was Stephen A. Smith today on ESPN when Josh Gordon was mentioned...it's not any advice you came up with on your own so give credit where it's due...cheater.
I don't give a flying fu.ck if you worked in the mines like a ferret or not...it doesn't change the fact you absolutely suck at getting any coherent point across.
If you're going to insult someone, quit typing posts that look worse than a chimp hurling it's shit on the wall.
Funny how you mention communication as not an issue for you, when nobody can really grasp what the hell you're saying.
I would work for free for clients, and I have, several times.
Oh yeah, don't be afraid I do counseling and therapy...because I'm not like who I am on here, to any clients...that's mainly because pretty much all of them, want to better themselves, they learn about their past, understand the bad and good, apply adaptive and positive changes, then use them in their lives in a productive and consistent manner.
They actively try to better themselves, and that's a huge plus, and MUCH better than 90% of this board...who seemingly don't better themselves by moping around like a bunch of losers constantly trying to say "Marshall sucks" and "I bite the hand that fed me a degree" in about the most subliminal ways possible through comparisons to other programs, "woe is me" threads, and bashing the same goddamn dead horses to the point that natural decay is out having beer since you disintegrated the fu.cking corpses for them already.
I don't know you, I don't want to know your loser self either...but the little I do know of you, is you're about the dumbest person on Earth since you bring class struggles into an issue that does not discriminate between classes, and in doing so, actually single out people who are as equally bad in dealing with addiction, as those you claim to serve, as "dumbasses" and "malibu beach rehab centers" with no ability to understand pain or struggle in life's problems.
Actually that advice was Stephen A. Smith today on ESPN when Josh Gordon was mentioned...it's not any advice you came up with on your own so give credit where it's due...cheater.
I don't give a flying fu.ck if you worked in the mines like a ferret or not...it doesn't change the fact you absolutely suck at getting any coherent point across.
If you're going to insult someone, quit typing posts that look worse than a chimp hurling it's shit on the wall.
Funny how you mention communication as not an issue for you, when nobody can really grasp what the hell you're saying.
I would work for free for clients, and I have, several times.
Oh yeah, don't be afraid I do counseling and therapy...because I'm not like who I am on here, to any clients...that's mainly because pretty much all of them, want to better themselves, they learn about their past, understand the bad and good, apply adaptive and positive changes, then use them in their lives in a productive and consistent manner.
They actively try to better themselves, and that's a huge plus, and MUCH better than 90% of this board...who seemingly don't better themselves by moping around like a bunch of losers constantly trying to say "Marshall sucks" and "I bite the hand that fed me a degree" in about the most subliminal ways possible through comparisons to other programs, "woe is me" threads, and bashing the same goddamn dead horses to the point that natural decay is out having beer since you disintegrated the fu.cking corpses for them already.
I don't know you, I don't want to know your loser self either...but the little I do know of you, is you're about the dumbest person on Earth since you bring class struggles into an issue that does not discriminate between classes, and in doing so, actually single out people who are as equally bad in dealing with addiction, as those you claim to serve, as "dumbasses" and "malibu beach rehab centers" with no ability to understand pain or struggle in life's problems.
