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Yes, Pocahontas is 1/988 Injun.
Not enough to get preferential treatment at Harvard, and certainly not worthy of a decent toke of Injun weed off the peace pipe.
Democrats: The party of racists and liars.
Not enough to get preferential treatment at Harvard, and certainly not worthy of a decent toke of Injun weed off the peace pipe.
Democrats: The party of racists and liars.
LOL here is an article on this "GREAT FIND".
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...rican-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html
So she is 1/ 512th Native American! LOL I am much more Indian than that. My great grandma was Cherokee but you don't hear me running around claiming to be Indian. I am 1/32 I think.
From the article, Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.
Lets see EG that takes us back to the 1700's. Face it she is nothing but a Pinocchio on this one.
You're seriously going to claim this:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...rican-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html
as a win?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...rican-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html
as a win?
Yeah, and at 1/512th Native American, Fauxcahontas I guess is technically "partially Native American." Could you imagine saying with a straight face that you were 1/512th anything? Much less using it on an application to get preferential treatment.
This cvnt is a fraud. I can't believe she even released the results; it actually makes her look worse.
So let's run some more numbers. at 1/512th Native American, Fauxcahontas is 0.195% Native American. The average white american is 98.6% European, 0.19% African and 0.18% Native American. So she is an average white American who claimed minority status to gain preferential treatment. The average white American is just as black as Elizabeth Warren is Native American.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...-melting-pot-appear-overblown-if-youre-white/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...-melting-pot-appear-overblown-if-youre-white/
You're seriously going to claim this:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...rican-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html
as a win?
when you have been losing and taking beat downs like the dems and libs have.....yes, you chalk this up as a victory.
This thread is the perfect representation of the lack of intelligence of deplorables. It also is a perfect representation of a deplorable perpetuating bullshit, then the other deplorables being too stupid to realize it is wrong.
1) Ohio Herd posted a link to a Boston Globe article. In that article, it claimed that Warren is 1/32nd Native American if her great-great-great-grandmother was Native. For those of you deplorables without a calculator, that is three "greats." Then, Ohio Herd stated "My great grandma was Cherokee but you don't hear me running around claiming to be Indian. I am 1/32 I think."
Now, if the source Ohio Herd used is claiming that somebody whose great-great-great-grandmother being Native American would make that person 1/32nd Native, what sort of deplorable logic would make Ohio Herd believe that he is 1/32nd based on just his great-grandmother being Native? Even if he argued "Well, my great-grandmother was only partially Native; I believe her great-grandfather was full," it would make no sense logically. In that case, he could have simply said his mother/father happened to be Native, which would be true, and then he could have gone back to the full Native in his family to discover his true makeup.
Let me dumb this down for you:
-You have two parents. If one is something, you would be 50% of that.
-You have four grandparents. If one is something, you would be 25% of that.
-You have eight great-grandparents (which Ohio Herd's claim). If one is something, you would be 12.5% of that. So your claim of 1/32nd is about 400% wrong.
And even if you didn't want to take thirty seconds to determine that, you could have read your own fvcking source and seen that its claim about a great-great-great-grandparent shouldn't be the exact same as yours for just a great-grandparent.
Moving on to the next moronic attempt by these deplorables . . .
2) Did any of you read the actual report? I did. It mentions nothing about 1/512th like Ohio Herd claimed, nothing about 1/1024 like the preacher's source claimed, nothing about 1/988th like the grand wizard claimed. But a deplorable posted it, so the rest of you morons ran with it.
The report states that the ancestry is from 6-10 generations ago. It is important to note that "generation," in terms of genealogy, doesn't necessarily mean a next branch on the family tree. It doesn't necessarily mean child is one generation, parent is another generation, grandparent is another generation, etc. A generation, in genealogy, is between 20-25 years based on estimates of the time between parent-child birthing . . . though while learning about this stuff (see, you guys should try researching, reading, and educating yourself instead of taking everything presented to you as accurate), I did learn that some experts are claiming a generation should be considered between 25-31 years instead of the long-held 20-25 years based on if male or female ancestry. In other words, 6 generations could be as recent as about the year 1900.
The 1/512th which Ohio Herd first claimed and that Murox the Moron ran with is also false. Here, let me dumb it down for you using the misconception of "generation," but for the sake of this discussion we can use without having proof of age of the ancestors:
Warren
Parents: 50%
Grandparents: 25%
Great-grandparents: 12.5%
Great-great-grandparents: 6.3%
Great-great-great-grandparents: 3.12%
Great-great-great-great-grandparents: 1.6%
So, depending on if the report considers Warren as the sixth generation, she very easily could be 1.6% or 3.12% Native American, not the bogus .195% Murox the Moron presented.
1) Ohio Herd posted a link to a Boston Globe article. In that article, it claimed that Warren is 1/32nd Native American if her great-great-great-grandmother was Native. For those of you deplorables without a calculator, that is three "greats." Then, Ohio Herd stated "My great grandma was Cherokee but you don't hear me running around claiming to be Indian. I am 1/32 I think."
Now, if the source Ohio Herd used is claiming that somebody whose great-great-great-grandmother being Native American would make that person 1/32nd Native, what sort of deplorable logic would make Ohio Herd believe that he is 1/32nd based on just his great-grandmother being Native? Even if he argued "Well, my great-grandmother was only partially Native; I believe her great-grandfather was full," it would make no sense logically. In that case, he could have simply said his mother/father happened to be Native, which would be true, and then he could have gone back to the full Native in his family to discover his true makeup.
Let me dumb this down for you:
-You have two parents. If one is something, you would be 50% of that.
-You have four grandparents. If one is something, you would be 25% of that.
-You have eight great-grandparents (which Ohio Herd's claim). If one is something, you would be 12.5% of that. So your claim of 1/32nd is about 400% wrong.
And even if you didn't want to take thirty seconds to determine that, you could have read your own fvcking source and seen that its claim about a great-great-great-grandparent shouldn't be the exact same as yours for just a great-grandparent.
Moving on to the next moronic attempt by these deplorables . . .
2) Did any of you read the actual report? I did. It mentions nothing about 1/512th like Ohio Herd claimed, nothing about 1/1024 like the preacher's source claimed, nothing about 1/988th like the grand wizard claimed. But a deplorable posted it, so the rest of you morons ran with it.
The report states that the ancestry is from 6-10 generations ago. It is important to note that "generation," in terms of genealogy, doesn't necessarily mean a next branch on the family tree. It doesn't necessarily mean child is one generation, parent is another generation, grandparent is another generation, etc. A generation, in genealogy, is between 20-25 years based on estimates of the time between parent-child birthing . . . though while learning about this stuff (see, you guys should try researching, reading, and educating yourself instead of taking everything presented to you as accurate), I did learn that some experts are claiming a generation should be considered between 25-31 years instead of the long-held 20-25 years based on if male or female ancestry. In other words, 6 generations could be as recent as about the year 1900.
The 1/512th which Ohio Herd first claimed and that Murox the Moron ran with is also false. Here, let me dumb it down for you using the misconception of "generation," but for the sake of this discussion we can use without having proof of age of the ancestors:
Warren
Parents: 50%
Grandparents: 25%
Great-grandparents: 12.5%
Great-great-grandparents: 6.3%
Great-great-great-grandparents: 3.12%
Great-great-great-great-grandparents: 1.6%
So, depending on if the report considers Warren as the sixth generation, she very easily could be 1.6% or 3.12% Native American, not the bogus .195% Murox the Moron presented.
The post I made was a correction the article made to its own reporting, so as usual, you get your lame attempt at superiority wrong.
once again rifle lectures everyone on things that don’t really matter to actual topic. The point is she claimed Native American heritage to advance either her career or the prestige of Harvard. However she doesn’t have enough Native American ancestry to even be considered Native American by the tribes themselves. But please continue to lecture everyone professor
The post I made was a correction the article made to its own reporting, so as usual, you get your lame attempt at superiority wrong.
It's not wrong. Read the damn report yourself instead of taking the word from sources who just admitted that they made an error.
6-10 generations, as the report claims, is quite a decent gap. Your claim (or Ohio Herd's or Murox's) is simply arguing for the very best case in the eyes of your argument. It is intellectually dishonest to the point of being wrong, as I showed when I dumbed it down long-form in my post for you.
Ya' know, that wouldn't be a bad point to make. However, it does nothing to justify the bogus arguments presented by the deplorables in this thread. Further, and more important, your argument is false.
Warren claims to be a descendant of Cherokee and Delaware Tribes. Coincidentally, both of those tribes are two of about thirty that use lineal descent as their litmus test for eligibility as opposed to quantum blood measures. Though other tribes will allow membership to 1/16th (great-great-grandparents, as I showed earlier, which would make Warren miss by possibly one grandparent), the two tribes she claimed she was a descendant of don't have the requirement you state.
In other words, your claim is entirely false . . . and you can easily look up those tribes yourself.
A former starting quarterback of mine was born-and-raised in Oklahoma. For some sort of scholarship/grant, he had to prove his Native blood. The tribe sponsoring the grant used quantum blood, which he barely made.
LOL rifle just go ahead and surrender.
From the article: If O.C. Sarah Smith were fully Native American, that would make Warren up to 1/32nd native. But the generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American. The report notes there could be missed ancestors.Good Lauwd Rifle the lady that she identified lived in the 1700's. My freaking great grandma lived in the 1900's. Face it, you should know better than to try and defend her. She is a great big fake. Like Rox said, all of us has something mixed in there. She lied and took advantage of the situation and got called out for it by Trump.Finally I never said I was 1/32. I said I think I am. I sure a #$%% didn't say that and try to get a scholarship or grant.PS. I used a headline off of Drudge Report first for my number of 512. Even worse for her at 1024!
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Talk about someone using the best possible #s to support their position. You keep referencing the 1/32 figure, which is a best case scenario for Warren's claims, while ignoring the fact that it is just as likely be as low as 1/1,024. Either way, both numbers make her past assertions and manipulation of her 'heritage" for personal gain laughable.
You like to mock Trump's lies - which is a fair position. Yet you defend Warren's lies. It's this kind of intellectual dishonesty that prevents either end of the political scale from taking the other seriously. Hell, the video Keep posted is damning enough, even without the numerous other instances that are on record of her lying.
You like to mock Trump's lies - which is a fair position. Yet you defend Warren's lies. It's this kind of intellectual dishonesty that prevents either end of the political scale from taking the other seriously. Hell, the video Keep posted is damning enough, even without the numerous other instances that are on record of her lying.
Is that because D3 schools can't offer athletic scholarships?
You realize that you just supported my argument that I posted earlier, right?
Go back and look at my post where I dumbed it down and listed the descendants and percentages. I stopped at "great-great-great-great-grandparent" which is approximately 1.6%. That is 1/64th, which is supported by the results in the report. So already your source is supporting my post which is showing the 1/1024, 1/512 to be on the far end of possibilities one is using to fit what they want the results to be.
Then, go teach yourself how "generations" are determined in genealogy. This "6-10 generations" doesn't mean 6-10 people in a lineage. For instance, pretend that Warren's mother happened to be 100% Native. However, pretend Warren's mother had a baby when she was 40 years old. The genealogy results down the line would claim Warren's mother as two generations instead of just one, as generation in genealogy is considered 20-25 years.
Now, take a less drastic and more believable scenario. Pretend Warren's great-grandmother had a baby at age 30 and Warren's great-great-grandmother had a baby at age 30. Even though the great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother would only be two generations, as we think of it, genealogy would show it as three generations.
So those 6-10 generations easily could be 4-8 generations in how we discuss the word.
As I mentioned before, without knowing the birthdates of the entire lineage, its basically estimating that each baby is born between the mother's age of 20-25.
Either way, what you, Murox the Moron, and the preacher posted is simply using the best possible scenario for their argument regardless of the likelihood of it.
More, it doesn't answer how much of a dumbass you have to be to use a source claiming Warren's great-great-great-grandmother being Native would make Warren 1/32nd, then you turned around and claimed that you thought you were the same because of your great-grandmother. Really, how could you use a source and then turn around and greatly contradict what is said?
rifle started a scholastic scholarship for him and pays for it out of the interest he gets from the investment account he started for the local orphanage.
This is an argument a career football position coach would make. You don’t donate your salary back to the school; it’s just not a paid position. Did you ask mom if you could borrow her car today?
Oh, really? This is why you're referred to as Tier Three. You just don't have the reading comprehension ability and intellect to be anything other than a paper-pushing attorney.
Show me where in this thread (or any) that I keep referencing 1/32nd as if that is the definitive answer. You can't. In fact, I said "possibly" with that statement. I've said that she is "possibly" that. On the other hand, Ohio Herd, Murox the Moron, and the preacher are all arguing, definitively, that Warren's blood is the number they claim it is.
If you can't see the huge difference between what I am saying and what they are saying, then I suggest finding a tier two graduate attorney in your firm to explain it to you.
Show where I am defending anything she said. Once again, you can't. What I have done, which is not unusual for me on here, is to correct the bogus information and illogical arguments that are being presented. If DHerd entered this thread and claimed Warren was definitively 1/4th blood, I'd mock him, too.
Let me know when you're ready to show where I keep referencing 1/32nd as definitively being her blood and where I am defending her lies.
This fraction talk recalls the justification coming out of Berlin in the 30’s.
FYI the supposed expert she used didn’t even compare her dna to Native American dna. He used Latino dna as a stand in
wow! You are the one who used the 1/32 claim from the article to try to claim she really is Indian. The article said she is more than likely 1/1024. I sad the opposite. I said that my great was 100% and I THOUGHT that might make me 1/32. I also said I don't try to claim to be Indian.Sorry you do get it. Nobody on here agrees with you and your assessment.
Neither of those are true. On the other hand, everything I have said about you is accurate.
Why do you constantly have to resort to lies? See, I don't resort to lies in my comments about you. How pathetic must you be to constantly fabricate things on here about me, then when called out with basic questions so proof can expose you as being a liar, you cowardly hide from me?
I never claimed to donate my salary back. For the most part, a head coach is given a pool to work with for his hires. At many schools, including low FBS and the majority of FCS, that pool is only a good enough salary for a guy with a family if some coaches take on other responsibilities. For instance, an FBS position coach may also have to be a recruiting coordinator if there isn't an additional $50,000 salary in the pool to hire an individual recruiting coordinator. An FBS position coach may also have to be the coach of a special teams unit if there isn't a budget for the tenth full-time coach in order to have an independent special teams coordinator like what happened to Louisiana Tech until a week before the season started. An FCS position coach may also have to be the video coordinator monitoring four student assistants who record games/practices. An FCS DFO may also have to be the equipment manager.
As a result, if a guy with two young children is only scheduled to be paid $12,000 to be the DFO in a part-time role which forces him to get a second job, if another position coach is forced to also be the equipment manager forcing him to not give 100% of his time to football, and if I am fine with $1000/month instead of $3500/month which allows the DFO to get paid twice as much so he can also be the equipment guy, thus allowing the other full-time coach to only worry about football, and being able to give an offensive and defensive quality control coach $500-$750 per month to live on, it isn't "donating" anything. It is simply helping some people get through in life while also giving the football team a better chance at winning.
Oh, in 2016, I also allowed an offensive quality control coach to live in the apartment I rented also. I had a two bedroom/two bath apartment. I didn't need the extra space and was only home from 8 pm - 7 am, so it allowed a 25 year old guy to use the $500-$750/month he was making on his car, food, cell phone, and gas instead of trying to find somewhere to sleep. I forgot to mention that the last time you brought this up.
Warren has about as much Native American in her as Greed has sanity. She doesn't even have enough sense to be embarrassed for sharing her DNA results.
You forgot to quote the following from your post: "“The amount of genetic data that is available from Native Americans is sparse.”
Not absent, as was highlighted.
Oh yeah that changes what is highlighted. You’re right he still used Latino dna as a substitute
Except this conversation is a lot more boring than fascism, with its festive marches and cool uniforms.
The article I read said the reason for that was because it is believed that native Indians immigrated from that area. Bottom line for me is that as usual, trump is a liar.
Yeah not that she used her native “heritage” for personal gain it’s that trump lied. That’s the issue.
So, you agree that trump lied....again. That's not an issue for you.
trump also promised to pay $1 million to a charity of Warren's choosing if she took the DNA test and she was of Indian heritage. You think he'll pay that money as he promised, or that trump lied....again?
Now, where's your proof that warren used her native heritage for personal gain?
Warren is less Native than the majority of white Americans whose lineage is of similar length, but it totally proves she was allowed to mark herself as Native on applications.
Here we have the nutjob Greed, who will argue semantics and claim Warren is full-blooded Native American when she has the equivalent of one drop from a medicine dropper into the Atlantic Ocean.
My Xenu, you are a fvcking dolt.
