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LDS on trump & Deplorables

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Hit the nail on the head with these:


Right after the election, you wrote about how Trump’s crass rhetoric “has cheapened political discussions and desensitized voters to behavior that in another era they would have deemed disqualifying in a president.” Have Latter-day Saints who voted for him become similarly desensitized? How do they justify voting for a candidate who talks like this?

People that I know who voted for Trump would have been absolutely scandalized by the things that he said, even just in the final weeks of this campaign. Just look at the last six weeks of the 2024 election cycle. He spread lies about Haitian immigrants eating their neighbors’ pets. He said America was the garbage can of the world. He invited a comedian onto the stage to call Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. It goes on and on. Ten years ago, if Trump supporters had seen a Republican candidate talk like that on the presidential stage, they would have said, “There’s no way that person should be in the White House.” Now, not only did those people vote for him, for the most part, that stuff didn’t bother them at all. … People who are voting for Trump for the second or third time, at this point, long ago created a permission structure for themselves to support somebody whose character and behavior are far beneath the standards that they would have set for presidential candidates in the past

Some evangelical Christians see Trump as some kind of Christian “savior” and that God wanted him to be the president. Why aren’t Latter-day Saints talking like that?

I actually wrote a story for The Atlantic earlier this year about the prayers that were offered at the beginning of Trump rallies, most of them given by evangelicals. One of the running themes through those prayers is the idea that Trump has been anointed by God to lead this country, that he is kind of a biblical character, set apart to save the country from ruin. A lot of those same supporters have just talked themselves into the idea that Trump is a godly, almost prophetic figure like Paul or other kinds of straightforwardly heroic characters in the Bible. I have not seen that very much even among Latter-day Saint ardent supporters. They will say he’s doing great things for the country. And a lot of them did lean into the idea that God saved him from the assassination attempts, but I did not hear that he is a special figure anointed by God. The way that the church is set up in this hierarchical fashion, there isn’t quite as much room for a kind of non-Latter-day Saint politician to be slotted into that hierarchy….Latter-day Saints would feel uncomfortable with comparing him to a prophet, given their own beliefs about prophets.
 
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"Ten years ago, if Trump supporters had seen a Republican candidate talk like that on the presidential stage, they would have said, 'There’s no way that person should be in the White House.' Now, not only did those people vote for him, for the most part, that stuff didn’t bother them at all. … People who are voting for Trump for the second or third time, at this point, long ago created a permission structure for themselves to support somebody whose character and behavior are far beneath the standards that they would have set for presidential candidates in the past."
 


For some “harm” is defined as “not acting presidential.”

For others “harm” is things like messing up endless wars, economy, inflation, and borders.
And if you don't think trump and his abysmal cast of cronies he has already appointed aren't going to cause far more harm than a vapid Kamala, then you've just been out-smarted by a 16 year old girl:

 
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For some “harm” is defined as “not acting presidential.”
You've become a cult member. "not acting presidential" is not even in the same ball park of pathological liar, cheating on 3 wives, an affair with a porn star while married, insurrection, attempting to illegally overturn the results of a free and fair election, sexual abuse, fraud, and convicted felon.
For others “harm” is things like messing up endless wars started by republican bush and ended by democrat biden, economy which is in better shape than at any time under the orange jesus, inflation at 2.6% and is lower than the long-term average of 3.28%, and borders which are worse than they would because idiot republicans bowed to the deranged convicted felon and derailed the best bill proposed in decades.
 
I’d love to know what, exactly, these female leftists are afraid of. Aside from it now being slightly more complicated (a longer car ride) to brutally murder your theoretical unborn child or your theoretical unborn daughter’s child, what are you afraid of losing the right to do? Trump is to the left of many people in this country on abortion, including myself, and everything else these women whine about isn’t even real.

IVF? Nope…he’s for that too. Actually, he’s for tax payer funded IVF.

Seriously…tell me, with a straight face, what is going to happen to women (aside from being deported if you’re an illegal) in this 2nd Trump term.
 
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"Ten years ago, if Trump supporters had seen a Republican candidate talk like that on the presidential stage, they would have said, 'There’s no way that person should be in the White House.' Now, not only did those people vote for him, for the most part, that stuff didn’t bother them at all. … People who are voting for Trump for the second or third time, at this point, long ago created a permission structure for themselves to support somebody whose character and behavior are far beneath the standards that they would have set for presidential candidates in the past."
You can thank DC and what they turned into. Barack Obama is near the front of that list.

Then, the BS they pulled with Mush and Covid.

Then, your side messed with Trump and treated him very unfairly.

Throw in all the woke B.S. and messing with kids and all that.

People have had enough. Trump is not a perfect person. But, he is genuine. He wants to try to fix it and loves the country.

Get over it.
 
And if you don't think trump and his abysmal cast of cronies he has already appointed aren't going to cause far more harm than a vapid Kamala, then you've just been out-smarted by a 16 year old girl:

No, she would have had us in WW3. Then, she would have just continued on as a puppet for the DC machine.

She was downright dangerous.
 


For some “harm” is defined as “not acting presidential.”

For others “harm” is things like messing up endless wars, economy, inflation, and borders.
They would have a better argument on "not acting Presidential" if they didn't support a brain dead geriatric, or a cackling Ho, or basically anyone selected for them to vote for.

These people are ideologue sheep that "think" based on raw emotion and that emotion is easy to ramp up and their puppet masters know it. Thank goodness the abjectly stupid are out numbered now
 

LDS on trump & Deplorables​


So most Americans are deplorable?

Just like Willie Shatner. You just don't get it because you're out of touch.

Bill Maher tries to explain to baffled William Shatner why Commie-Toe lost election.

vvvvvTalk about "nailing it" vvvvv

"Conservatives are much more tolerant of people they don’t like. It's the liberals who are purists, especially the ones in this town. They are the ones who say if you don’t agree with me one million percent, I don’t even want to know you. That’s one of the reasons they lost. They have a bad attitude,"

 
I’d love to know what, exactly, these female leftists are afraid of. Aside from it now being slightly more complicated (a longer car ride) to brutally murder your theoretical unborn child or your theoretical unborn daughter’s child
Dying in a hospital parking lot before getting medical assistance?

Having to give birth to a rapist's child?

Charged with homicide?

If you want to minimize abortions, then mandatory vasectomies at age 16. Problem solved. Hypocrite.
 
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