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Had lunch with my buddy Ahmad who was set up in DC when he first arrived to the U.S. Ahmad lived in Afghanistan until late 2011. He was able to come to the U.S. only because a high ranking military official and a platoon leader vouched for what he did to help our soldiers. Both of them wrote extremely detailed reports stating how many lives of U.S. soldiers Ahmad saved by the information he would give military leaders. Ahmad lived in one of the more extreme anti-U.S. areas of Afghanistan, and locals were aware of him helping America. He twice had attempts by locals to kill him. Eventually, U.S. military leaders took action knowing that he would be killed by his own people. His brother, sister-in-law, niece, and nephew still live there, but he gave up being able to see them to help the U.S.

Ahmad was granted his visa under the Obama administration. For the last 1.5 years, he has lived and worked at a visa processing center in Raleigh. Just over a month ago, more than half of the staff was laid-off due to cheeto's drastic reduction in immigration and the decline in visa applications being accepted. Now, Ahmad - a guy who two military officials claimed single-handily saved hundreds of U.S. soldiers over numerous occasions - is working seven days a week, fourteen hour days driving for Uber and Lyft. He has two master's degrees and speaks five languages. Based on what he saw at his job, even with two exemplary recommendations from military officials, Ahmad doesn't think he would have a chance of getting a visa under cheeto.

You deplorables sure have a fvcked up sense of loyalty and honor.
 
He "doesn't think" he would have a chance of getting a visa under Trump. Well that settles it.

So what does he want? A house in Martha's Vineyard, a Medal of Honor and lifetime salary courtesy of our taxpayers? He's in America. Now he needs to go out and make his living like the rest of us.
 
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Had lunch with my buddy Ahmad who was set up in DC when he first arrived to the U.S. Ahmad lived in Afghanistan until late 2011. He was able to come to the U.S. only because a high ranking military official and a platoon leader vouched for what he did to help our soldiers. Both of them wrote extremely detailed reports stating how many lives of U.S. soldiers Ahmad saved by the information he would give military leaders. Ahmad lived in one of the more extreme anti-U.S. areas of Afghanistan, and locals were aware of him helping America. He twice had attempts by locals to kill him. Eventually, U.S. military leaders took action knowing that he would be killed by his own people. His brother, sister-in-law, niece, and nephew still live there, but he gave up being able to see them to help the U.S.

Ahmad was granted his visa under the Obama administration. For the last 1.5 years, he has lived and worked at a visa processing center in Raleigh. Just over a month ago, more than half of the staff was laid-off due to cheeto's drastic reduction in immigration and the decline in visa applications being accepted. Now, Ahmad - a guy who two military officials claimed single-handily saved hundreds of U.S. soldiers over numerous occasions - is working seven days a week, fourteen hour days driving for Uber and Lyft. He has two master's degrees and speaks five languages. Based on what he saw at his job, even with two exemplary recommendations from military officials, Ahmad doesn't think he would have a chance of getting a visa under cheeto.

You deplorables sure have a fvcked up sense of loyalty and honor.


There are several Ahmad stories out there (not saying your story is fake, just the opposite). We relied heavily on local intel in Afghanistan.
 
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Had lunch with my buddy Ahmad who was set up in DC when he first arrived to the U.S. Ahmad lived in Afghanistan until late 2011. He was able to come to the U.S. only because a high ranking military official and a platoon leader vouched for what he did to help our soldiers. Both of them wrote extremely detailed reports stating how many lives of U.S. soldiers Ahmad saved by the information he would give military leaders. Ahmad lived in one of the more extreme anti-U.S. areas of Afghanistan, and locals were aware of him helping America. He twice had attempts by locals to kill him. Eventually, U.S. military leaders took action knowing that he would be killed by his own people. His brother, sister-in-law, niece, and nephew still live there, but he gave up being able to see them to help the U.S.

Ahmad was granted his visa under the Obama administration. For the last 1.5 years, he has lived and worked at a visa processing center in Raleigh. Just over a month ago, more than half of the staff was laid-off due to cheeto's drastic reduction in immigration and the decline in visa applications being accepted. Now, Ahmad - a guy who two military officials claimed single-handily saved hundreds of U.S. soldiers over numerous occasions - is working seven days a week, fourteen hour days driving for Uber and Lyft. He has two master's degrees and speaks five languages. Based on what he saw at his job, even with two exemplary recommendations from military officials, Ahmad doesn't think he would have a chance of getting a visa under cheeto.

You deplorables sure have a fvcked up sense of loyalty and honor.

What do you expect? This is the same group of idiots who sided with Trump when he made the most derogatory comments regarding an American war hero such as John McCain. If Trump is capable of doing so to McCain why on earth would he care about an Afghanistan immigrant who saved hundreds of American Servicemen?
 
Ahmad doesn't think he would have a chance of getting a visa under cheeto.

Your friend should be commended. He sounds like an exceptional person and the exact type of individual we want coming to the U.S.

That being said, BC is correct. What does this:

Ahmad doesn't think he would have a chance of getting a visa under cheeto.

have to do with anything?
 
Yaggs I agree with Thundercat. He is the exact type of person we need. If he doesn't get a VISA that would be unfortunate but I am pretty sure Trump will not be the guy who denies him. For the record, I have a good friend who is from India. Both he and his wife have Ph.D and teach at the local university. She went home to India and took one of their kids with her a few years ago to visit family during the summer break. (Under Obama) They wouldn't let her back into the country for a few months because of some "problem" with her VISA. It was a hot mess I tell you. The point is this, there have been problems with the system for a long time now. That being said ,I hope your friend gets to stay . I'll cast a vote for him.
 
I thought this was going to be an Ahmad Rashad namedrop.

This guy approves

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Yes the USA will allow Ahmad. Then again ho chi ming probably helped the united states more during world war 'll with promises of the united states helping them gain independence but we backed the losing French. They crushed France then they defeated us for our first loss
 
Has he started the citizenship process during his time here? If I read your post correctly (it was a little confusing in that you said he lived in Afghanistan until 2011, but only gave a year and a half of work history), he came here in 2011, that's seven years. He should almost be there. If he hasn't started the process, why not?

If he lived somewhere else until 2016 and then came here, has he started the process?
 
But, but, but he THINKS Trump wouldn't have allowed him to stay. So there you have it, folks. Hard evidence Trump doesn't like ANY foreigners. It's based on the opinion of Yags's Afghani friend (which is awesome because he's clearly not racist - he has an Arabic friend for gosh sales!!!). I mean, if this isn't proof, I don't know what is.
 
So, we crack down on immigration and Ahmed doesn't have the same job as he did? Well, that happens to people a lot. I know people that worked at Cisco and IBM is the same area and that happened to them. Downsizing. When the economy went bad, I had customers delivering newspapers and cutting grass for a living. Guys that are professionals.

So, does Ahmad get to stay or not? And, we will all assume his story is 100% legit.
 
That being said, BC is correct. What does this:
have to do with anything?

It is to show that cheeto, even for people whose lives are in danger due to helping to save hundreds of American soldiers' lives, wouldn't allow the immigrant into the U.S.


If he doesn't get a VISA that would be unfortunate but I am pretty sure Trump will not be the guy who denies him.

Do you not know how visas work? My post clearly shows he has been here for years. You don't just wander around the country legally without a visa.


They wouldn't let her back into the country for a few months because of some "problem" with her VISA. It was a hot mess I tell you. The point is this, there have been problems with the system for a long time now.

That isn't a problem with the system. The system doesn't permit them to go back-and-forth to their countries for logical, security reasons. I shared this story before, but I dated a girl from Slovakia who was here on a visa. Her dad spent years trying to get her accepted. While over here, her father came down with terminal cancer. He only had a certain number of months to live. She wouldn't be allowed to go back to Slovakia and come back. Her choice was to either lose her opportunity to ever get U.S. citizenship, which her father had spent years and money trying to do, or go home and see her father before he died.

It's a sad story, but the system can't be expected to handle every single individual issue. The case with Ahmad isn't an individual issue. cheeto's policy has impacted thousands of Afghanis who are not safe in their country due to having helped the U.S.

That being said ,I hope your friend gets to stay . I'll cast a vote for him.

The reading comprehension in this thread is atrocious. It isn't an issue of him being able to stay or not. In my post, I clearly said that he already has a visa. I then said that he doesn't think he would have a chance at getting one under cheeto. That means if he already hadn't been granted one, he wouldn't have that opportunity to under cheeto.

Has he started the citizenship process during his time here? If I read your post correctly (it was a little confusing in that you said he lived in Afghanistan until 2011, but only gave a year and a half of work history), he came here in 2011, that's seven years. He should almost be there. If he hasn't started the process, why not?

If he lived somewhere else until 2016 and then came here, has he started the process?

The issue isn't if he will be granted citizenship, if he will be allowed to stay, etc. I also didn't say he "came here in 2011" like you posted. The issue is that there are thousands of others who helped and saved Americans in Afghanistan who are now not being granted visas.


But, but, but he THINKS Trump wouldn't have allowed him to stay. So there you have it, folks. Hard evidence Trump doesn't like ANY foreigners. It's based on the opinion of Yags's Afghani friend (which is awesome because he's clearly not racist - he has an Arabic friend for gosh sales!!!). I mean, if this isn't proof, I don't know what is.

You either don't know how visas work or you also are horrendous at reading comprehension. Both are easy to imagine when it comes to you.

Again, the issue isn't "allowing him to stay." It's about granting a visa in the first place to even allow him entry into the country. Tier threed.

Here's a little background on the subject since many of you are ignorant. I highly suggest reading how visas work, also, since a few of you clearly have no idea:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/world/asia/afghanistan-visa-program-united-states.html
 
It is to show that cheeto, even for people whose lives are in danger due to helping to save hundreds of American soldiers' lives, wouldn't allow the immigrant into the U.S.

Says who? This may come as a shock, but we still have legal immigration here in our country every day, even under Trump. It’s almost as if your rhetoric is just a scare tactic with no basis of reality whatsoever.
 
Says who? This may come as a shock, but we still have legal immigration here in our country every day, even under Trump. It’s almost as if your rhetoric is just a scare tactic with no basis of reality whatsoever.

Did you read the article, you imbecile? Where do you think that is coming from, the Obama administration more than a year later?
 
Says who? This may come as a shock, but we still have legal immigration here in our country every day, even under Trump. It’s almost as if your rhetoric is just a scare tactic with no basis of reality whatsoever.
yep we allow in legally about 1 million per year now
 
According to the State Department website, visas for Afghan refugees have actually INCREASED under the Trump administration. See below. If that is indeed the case, sounds like your and Ahmad's "concerns" are really just bullsh*t political rhetoric.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...pecial-immg-visa-afghans-employed-us-gov.html

BTW, the same issues Ahmad is concerned with have been happening since 2013. Remind me again, was Trump President back then?

https://www.denverpost.com/2013/11/10/afghan-interpreters-who-helped-u-s-in-war-denied-visas/

You are either making sh*t up, or failed to fully research your position. Based on prior interactions, either is possible with you.
 
BTW, did your flag football team win yesterday, D3?

Taylor Swift's private jet flew the whole team to their game in the neighboring county as a courtesy to rifle, for all he's done for her career. Amazingly, despite coaching and being the point man for 30+ A-list celebrities, he'll still have time for a 60,000 word response to this thread, explaining in specific detail how much money he makes, and no those aren't boot-cut jeans from the '90s.
 
According to the State Department website, visas for Afghan refugees have actually INCREASED under the Trump administration. See below. If that is indeed the case, sounds like your and Ahmad's "concerns" are really just bullsh*t political rhetoric.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...pecial-immg-visa-afghans-employed-us-gov.html
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This is why I have turned to mocking you so much. You simply lack basic comprehension abilities. You compound that (and make it even more fun to mock you for it) by claiming that I am the one who is wrong.

Without having to go into the specifics, your own link proves the opposite of what you're claiming.

Your own link says that cheeto signed approval for 3500 visas for 2018. That brings the total number of visas to 14,500 from 2015. In other words, 2015-2017 had 11,000 visas (14,500 - 3500). Dividing 11,000 by 3 amounts to more than 3500/year. So no, your claim that "visas for Afghan refugees have actually INCREASED" under cheeto is completely bogus.

In all seriousness, how could basic reading comprehension and basic math fail you so easily?

Now, to get into the specifics of it . . .

Afghans have been granted visas due to three programs: the Afghan Allies Protection Act signed by Obama (which was extended by Obama with the Emergency Allies Protection Act giving even more visas), Consolidated Appropriations Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act.

For many years, only 1500 visas were granted for Afghan allies. Being far too many, Obama signed bills that greatly increased that number by nearly 200%.

BTW, the same issues Ahmad is concerned with have been happening since 2013. Remind me again, was Trump President back then?

https://www.denverpost.com/2013/11/10/afghan-interpreters-who-helped-u-s-in-war-denied-visas/

Yes, it was an issue in 2013. That's why Obama, as I previously mentioned, increased that number by over 200%. Just months ago, there were nearly 12,000 principal applicants for a visa (those who directly were employed by the U.S. military) and another 12,000 family members who were stuck in the application system hoping to get only a fraction of visas available. cheeto, unlike Obama, refuses to increase the number.


You are either making sh*t up, or failed to fully research your position. Based on prior interactions, either is possible with you.

How can somebody who is too stupid to comprehend their own link/source claim the other person failed? Seriously, go back to your source and explain how you are the one right on this and how I am the one wrong on this. Tier threed!


Taylor Swift's private jet flew the whole team to their game in the neighboring county as a courtesy to rifle, for all he's done for her career. Amazingly, despite coaching and being the point man for 30+ A-list celebrities, he'll still have time for a 60,000 word response to this thread, explaining in specific detail how much money he makes, and no those aren't boot-cut jeans from the '90s.

Oh, it's the guy who claims that he is socially liberal but claims that blacks aren't targeted more by police than anyone else and that he is sick of blacks committing so much crime.

Still hiding from the plethora of evidence, including directly from police statistics, that show blacks are targeted and profiled far more than other races, huh? Maybe you could help Tier Three with statistics, since he failed miserably interpreting the ones his own source gave.

Thanks for mentioning Taylor. I almost forgot that I will be with her this week. She wants to introduce me to some hot Broadway actress that is also going to be there, so she may be my next celebrity notch on the bedpost.

Oh, here is what an NC State coach texted me on the way to the stadium yesterday. I don't think he will be accepting your Coffee & Cars invite in Huntington. And just how foolish must you be to continue trying to compare appearances/clothes?

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Ok, Ahmad gets to stay. Right now he is having to work some extra jobs. Give it a few years and he will own a Super 8, 7-11, and a Subway. He will be ok.
 
Ok, Ahmad gets to stay. Right now he is having to work some extra jobs. Give it a few years and he will own a Super 8, 7-11, and a Subway. He will be ok.

Those are Indians. He is Afghani. I know everyone with a complexion darker than snow are all the same to you, but they are completely different nationalities.
 
Your own link says that cheeto signed approval for 3500 visas for 2018. That brings the total number of visas to 14,500 from 2015. In other words, 2015-2017 had 11,000 visas (14,500 - 3500). Dividing 11,000 by 3 amounts to more than 3500/year. So no, your claim that "visas for Afghan refugees have actually INCREASED" under cheeto is completely bogus.

I'm not going to expend a great deal of time and energy responding to something you already know was correct. I'll just say 14,500 is 3,500 more than 11,000. So, yes, there was an increase of 3,500 for 2018. Hence the term "additional" in the Department's release. Your ego won't let you admit or agree to the obvious, D3.
 
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This is why I have turned to mocking you so much. You simply lack basic comprehension abilities. You compound that (and make it even more fun to mock you for it) by claiming that I am the one who is wrong.

Without having to go into the specifics, your own link proves the opposite of what you're claiming.

Your own link says that cheeto signed approval for 3500 visas for 2018. That brings the total number of visas to 14,500 from 2015. In other words, 2015-2017 had 11,000 visas (14,500 - 3500). Dividing 11,000 by 3 amounts to more than 3500/year. So no, your claim that "visas for Afghan refugees have actually INCREASED" under cheeto is completely bogus.

In all seriousness, how could basic reading comprehension and basic math fail you so easily?

Now, to get into the specifics of it . . .

Afghans have been granted visas due to three programs: the Afghan Allies Protection Act signed by Obama (which was extended by Obama with the Emergency Allies Protection Act giving even more visas), Consolidated Appropriations Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act.

For many years, only 1500 visas were granted for Afghan allies. Being far too many, Obama signed bills that greatly increased that number by nearly 200%.



Yes, it was an issue in 2013. That's why Obama, as I previously mentioned, increased that number by over 200%. Just months ago, there were nearly 12,000 principal applicants for a visa (those who directly were employed by the U.S. military) and another 12,000 family members who were stuck in the application system hoping to get only a fraction of visas available. cheeto, unlike Obama, refuses to increase the number.




How can somebody who is too stupid to comprehend their own link/source claim the other person failed? Seriously, go back to your source and explain how you are the one right on this and how I am the one wrong on this. Tier threed!




Oh, it's the guy who claims that he is socially liberal but claims that blacks aren't targeted more by police than anyone else and that he is sick of blacks committing so much crime.

Still hiding from the plethora of evidence, including directly from police statistics, that show blacks are targeted and profiled far more than other races, huh? Maybe you could help Tier Three with statistics, since he failed miserably interpreting the ones his own source gave.

Thanks for mentioning Taylor. I almost forgot that I will be with her this week. She wants to introduce me to some hot Broadway actress that is also going to be there, so she may be my next celebrity notch on the bedpost.

Oh, here is what an NC State coach texted me on the way to the stadium yesterday. I don't think he will be accepting your Coffee & Cars invite in Huntington. And just how foolish must you be to continue trying to compare appearances/clothes?

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Yeah, I don't think the assistant jock strap washer for NC State will get an invite to Cars and Coffee. And yeah, it's pretty brave to try to compare my appearance/clothes to yours. I don't have any boot-cut jeans, kangol hats or "$3000 t-shirts." No "I'm trying way too hard as a nearly 40 year old wearing streetwear" Balenciagas. Not one pair of spiked Louboutins. And I definitely don't have any diamonds (or any jewelry for that matter).
 
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I'm not going to expend a great deal of time and energy responding to something you already know was correct. I'll just say 14,500 is 3,500 more than 11,000. So, yes, there was an increase of 3,500 for 2018. Hence the term "additional" in the Department's release. Your ego won't let you admit or agree to the obvious, D3.

This may be the ultimate retard attempt on this board . . . well, not as bad as Coach Stowers arguing that it doesn't count as posting personal information if it isn't stolen from info provided when a poster signs up for the board, but close enough.

Here is the quote from your source:

"The National Defense Authorization Act for FY2018 as signed by President Trump on December 12, 2017 allocated 3,500 additional visas for Afghan principal applicants, for a total of 14,500 visas allocated since December 19, 2014."

Yes, 14,500 is more than 11,000. However, as your source says in the very first sentence, that 14,500 number accounts from 2015 - 2018. Since your source says that 3500 visas were authorized for 2018 by cheeto, it means 11,000 were from the years 2015-2017 which were Obama's authorizations. Doing basic math shows you that cheeto's number has dropped from the average of the previous three years.

It very clearly says " . . . for a total of 14,500 visas allocated since December 19, 2014."

That 14,500 isn't since cheeto took over or for just 2018. That is the total amount SINCE basically the start of 2015. God damn, this may be the biggest example of tier threed that I could have imagined in my wildest dreams.

@big_country90 , since you liked his post which incorrectly claimed that I was wrong, would you like to argue out of your ass to save both of you guys from looking like morons?
 
Nah I'm good. I just like seeing people get you riled up over meaningless nonsense to the point where you waste half your life arguing with strangers on the internet. But, hey, that's what we all do on here, right?
 
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Who said anything about yearly average? That's not the point of my post or the argument. The fact remains, the current administration ADDED 3,500 more visas for Afghan refugees last year. There were 11,000 previously. It's not like Trump stopped the program, he increased the total number.
 
Who said anything about yearly average? That's not the point of my post or the argument. The fact remains, the current administration ADDED 3,500 more visas for Afghan refugees last year. There were 11,000 previously. It's not like Trump stopped the program, he increased the total number.

BC admitted that you were wrong, and that he just likes seeing me respond. Sadly, I don't know if you're purposely trying to be wrong just to get me to respond or if you truly believe the foolish shit you posted.

I'm guessing you actually thought you were correct in your first post, and now you're trying to hide it behind an even more absurd argument to make your first incorrect post appear to be a joke.
 
See below:

Legislative History of the Special Immigrant Visa Program
  • From Fiscal Years (FY) 2009-2013, 1,500 Afghan SIV’s were allocated per year. In the 2014 Consolidated Appropriations Act, 3,000 SIV’s were allocated for the year, with an additional 1,000 allocated for 2014 through the Emergency Afghan Allies Extension Act.
  • In FY 2015 and 2016, Congress authorized additional Afghan SIV’s though the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). For FY 2015, 4,000 visas were allocated. For FY 2016, an additional 3,000 SIV’s were authorized.The FY 2016 NDAA also increased the minimum work requirement to two years for Afghan SIV recipients.
  • The NDAA for FY 2017 allocated 1,500 SIVs and reauthorized the Afghan SIV program for an additional four years. FY 2017 NDAA’s authorization of only 1,500 additional proved to be insufficient to service the need of our Afghan allies. In March 2017, the U.S. embassy in Kabul stopped interviewing Afghans applying for the Special Immigrant Visa program. Recognizing the visa shortage crisis, in May 2017, through the Consolidation Appropriations Act, an additional 2,500 visas were allocated to Afghan principal applicants.
  • The NDAA for FY 2018 allocated an additional 3,500 Afghan SIVs.
The program has to be renewed every year. To my point, any new allocation is an addition/increase to the program as they could have not sought any visas for 2018. Based on the foregoing #s, only three times since the program was implemented - 2014, 2015, and 2017 - were more visas granted than they were under this administration's first year. In that regard, you're correct that the Trump administration's allocations weren't an increase from the previous year.

Going back to the OP, the 2018 was, however, tied for the 3rd most EVER allocated in a calendar year. The 9 year average for the duration of the program is 2,500 per year. When you take all this information into account, Ahmad's concerns that he wouldn't be admitted under the current administration are unfounded and not supported by the numbers. It is political rhetoric with no basis in facts.
 
  • When you take all this information into account, Ahmad's concerns that he wouldn't be admitted under the current administration are unfounded and not supported by the numbers. It is political rhetoric with no basis in facts.
And that is simply false again just like your previous statement that cheeto increased the number and just like your inability to read and understand that the 14,000 number referred to the cumulative amount of the previous years.

Obama routinely increased the number of visas based on the demand of those Afghani allies wanting/needing help to escape threats to their lives. Even though the number has increased, cheeto lowered the number compared with the average over the three previous years.

Your comment that cheeto actually INCREASED the number of visas is bogus. He decreased the number based on the three previous years. Your comment about "14,500 is 3500 more than 11,000" shows you had no idea what you were talking about.

Your claims in this are as putridly misguided as they were in your challenge about finding a court to claim exactly what I showed they did. This time, you not only showed your tier three status, but you also showed to be at the bottom of the class in tier three by accusing me of being the incorrect one about this. Then, to make it even worse, you claimed I researched it incorrectly - I don't have to research this stuff. I know what has gone on. You, on the other hand, just researched it, had to admit that your comment about cheeto INCREASING the visas was false, and are once again stuck trying to word-play your way out of being wrong.
 
Bottom line is 3,500 new/additional Afghan refugees were able to apply for Visas under the Trump administration.
 
Bottom line is 3,500 new/additional Afghan refugees were able to apply for Visas under the Trump administration.

Which is entirely different than what you argued, what you stated, and what you claimed I was wrong about. I guess somebody didn’t research, eh, Tier Three?

The reality, as I’ve said multiple times, is that cheeto reduced the number of visas for Afghani allies compared to the last three years even though there are over 12,000 waiting.
 
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