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You're the GM of the Marshall greats team. To be eligible, the Marshall great had to have played at least one season of FBS.

Rules are simple: You have a salary cap of $15 to make the best offense. For the $1 quarterback square, you get both Bernard Morris and Stan Hill.

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You're the GM of the Marshall greats team. To be eligible, the Marshall great had to have played at least one season of FBS.

Rules are simple: You have a salary cap of $15 to make the best offense. For the $1 quarterback square, you get both Bernard Morris and Stan Hill.

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Leftwich $4, Doug $2, Moss $5, Cody $4.

I had really high hopes for Watts, especially after his first season with Denver.
 
I think u undervalued Doug Chapman

Pennington, Chapman, Moss, Hoskins

2nd option: Cato, Chapman, Moss, Shuler, Hoskins
 
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That's the group I would go with, too.

To make it fair Moss should have probably been been worth $7 or $8 all by himself (and even then he's probably a no-brainer). He's just so much better than any WR we've ever had.
Moss & Chapman are steals. The thought of Moss' speed with Leftwich's arm boosts his value, IMO.

Most of these I've seen, you have to pick 2 WRs or 2 TEs to fill out your skill positions and it makes it more difficult.

$4 Leftwich, $2 Chapman, $5 Moss, $3 Davis, $1 Yurachek
 
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QB - $1 Hill/Morris

WR - $5 Moss, $3 Davis, $2 Shuler

TE - $3 Hoskins

RB - $1 Marshall

Since it wasn’t specified, I’m working under the assumption that we can take a player at any point of their career. $1 for Stan Hill before the injury is not a bad deal, and it’s the only scenario where you get a backup of some variety.

By going the Hill route, I can get two wideouts to stretch the field (Moss and Davis), a solid inside receiver with great hands (Shuler), a great pass-catching tight end that causes matchup issues (Hoskins), and a good running back (Marshall). Add in the requisite five offensive lineman, and I actually have a full offense as well.
 
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QB - $1 Hill/Morris

WR - $5 Moss, $3 Davis, $2 Shuler

TE - $3 Hoskins

RB - $1 Marshall

Since it wasn’t specified, I’m working under the assumption that we can take a player at any point of their career. $1 for Stan Hill before the injury is not a bad deal, and it’s the only scenario where you get a backup of some variety.

By going the Hill route, I can get two wideouts to stretch the field (Moss and Davis), a solid inside receiver with great hands (Shuler), a great pass-catching tight end that causes matchup issues (Hoskins), and a good running back (Marshall). Add in the requisite five offensive lineman, and I actually have a full offense as well.

I was thinking kind of along the same lines with my "$3 Cato, $5 Moss, $2 Shuler, $4 Rockhead, $1 Yura". You have to take Moss.

Taking Chad also for $5 or Lefty for $4 leaves you short for other weapons.

I wanted a good blocking TE who was also a good possession receiver. Yura was pretty good at seam routes and reading defenses.

Shuler at $2 is an excellent value to keep the chains moving. Shuler could get open in a phone booth and was magic with Cato.

I also wanted two game breakers. Moss needs no words.
DJ is the most devastating RB in Herd history IMO, plus he was fast with breakaway speed.
 
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There isn't much difference between Leftwich and Pennington. Look at the points put up with both QBs. Leftwich's arm strength, when teamed with Moss, makes both even more lethal.

I purposely made no rules so that the GM could build the system he wanted. If you want a spread offense, screw the tight end. With the right running back, you don't need an attached tight end. When you have a smaller back that has speed (like Darius Marshall), you want to spread the defense out and not have another blocker and defender in the box.

Leftwich: $4
Moss: $5
Josh Davis: $3 - at one point, he was the all-time leading receiver in number of catches in FBS history. He also has good size. He is the possession receiver, extremely consistent, and he could still breakaway from defensive backs.
Darius Marshall: $1
Tyre Brady: $1
Yurachek: $1

That will give you a freak (Moss), an extremely reliable bigger receiver (Josh Davis), and another big receiver (6'3 Brady) who basically had back-to-back 1000 yard seasons at Marshall. Those three with Lefwich? Yikes.

That then allows you either Yurachek for $1 for short yardage situations or you can drop Yurachek and Brady and pick up Chapman for $2 to team up with Marshall in the backfield. Either of those options is lethal.

For those who think Chapman was undervalued . . . where do you put him? He had a ton of weapons on his offenses (Moss, Pennington, Washington, Llow Turner, Nate Poole, etc.), so he was far from the first target of defenses. Yet, his yards per carry were very pedestrian. He wasn't the focus of defenses and still didn't produce as much as Earl Charles did. Was Chapman good? Sure. Did he produce as well as Charles even though Charles had far less talent around him? No.
 
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There isn't much difference between Leftwich and Pennington. Look at the points put up with both QBs. Leftwich's arm strength, when teamed with Moss, makes both even more lethal.

I purposely made no rules so that the GM could build the system he wanted. If you want a spread offense, screw the tight end. With the right running back, you don't need an attached tight end. When you have a smaller back that has speed (like Darius Marshall), you want to spread the defense out and not have another blocker and defender in the box.

Leftwich: $4
Moss: $5
Josh Davis: $3 - at one point, he was the all-time leading receiver in number of catches in FBS history. He also has good size. He is the possession receiver, extremely consistent, and he could still breakaway from defensive backs.
Darius Marshall: $1
Tyre Brady: $1
Yurachek: $1

That will give you a freak (Moss), an extremely reliable bigger receiver (Josh Davis), and another big receiver (6'3 Brady) who basically had back-to-back 1000 yard seasons at Marshall. Those three with Lefwich? Yikes.

That then allows you either Yurachek for $1 for short yardage situations or you can drop Yurachek and Brady and pick up Chapman for $2 to team up with Marshall in the backfield. Either of those options is lethal.

For those who think Chapman was undervalued . . . where do you put him? He had a ton of weapons on his offenses (Moss, Pennington, Washington, Llow Turner, Nate Poole, etc.), so he was far from the first target of defenses. Yet, his yards per carry were very pedestrian. He wasn't the focus of defenses and still didn't produce as much as Earl Charles did. Was Chapman good? Sure. Did he produce as well as Charles even though Charles had far less talent around him? No.
For some reason I assumed we had to have a player from every category. Poor reading comprehension on my part.

Knowing that we don't have to have a TE I'd go Cato ($3), Moss ($5), Shuler ($2) and Bradshaw ($5).
 
Morris/Stan Hill - $1
Moss -$5
Brady - $1
Marshall - $1
Yurachek - $1
Shuler - $2
Johnson - $4
 
There isn't much difference between Leftwich and Pennington. Look at the points put up with both QBs. Leftwich's arm strength, when teamed with Moss, makes both even more lethal.

I purposely made no rules so that the GM could build the system he wanted. If you want a spread offense, screw the tight end. With the right running back, you don't need an attached tight end. When you have a smaller back that has speed (like Darius Marshall), you want to spread the defense out and not have another blocker and defender in the box.

Leftwich: $4
Moss: $5
Josh Davis: $3 - at one point, he was the all-time leading receiver in number of catches in FBS history. He also has good size. He is the possession receiver, extremely consistent, and he could still breakaway from defensive backs.
Darius Marshall: $1
Tyre Brady: $1
Yurachek: $1

That will give you a freak (Moss), an extremely reliable bigger receiver (Josh Davis), and another big receiver (6'3 Brady) who basically had back-to-back 1000 yard seasons at Marshall. Those three with Lefwich? Yikes.

That then allows you either Yurachek for $1 for short yardage situations or you can drop Yurachek and Brady and pick up Chapman for $2 to team up with Marshall in the backfield. Either of those options is lethal.

For those who think Chapman was undervalued . . . where do you put him? He had a ton of weapons on his offenses (Moss, Pennington, Washington, Llow Turner, Nate Poole, etc.), so he was far from the first target of defenses. Yet, his yards per carry were very pedestrian. He wasn't the focus of defenses and still didn't produce as much as Earl Charles did. Was Chapman good? Sure. Did he produce as well as Charles even though Charles had far less talent around him? No.

Cato had Gator, but at $3 he couldn't fit my roster. Plus some would argue that Yura was a better overall college TE than Gator, fantasy points being ignored. Both Gator and Yura played a lot detached from the tackles. Josh D over Shuler would be a good argument. But if I'm starting Cato, I want Shuler. During Rockhead's junior year, he loosened defenses in ways that no other RB in MU's history has...bulldozer with Ferrari speed. Play 7 in a box and let Moss run past the safeties? Play 7 in a box and and risk a DB's existence if he tries to make a tackle?
 
Cato had Gator, but at $3 he couldn't fit my roster. Plus some would argue that Yura was a better overall college TE than Gator, fantasy points being ignored. Both Gator and Yura played a lot detached from the tackles. Josh D over Shuler would be a good argument. But if I'm starting Cato, I want Shuler. During Rockhead's junior year, he loosened defenses in ways that no other RB in MU's history has...bulldozer with Ferrari speed. Play 7 in a box and let Moss run past the safeties? Play 7 in a box and and risk a DB's existence if he tries to make a tackle?
Cato had Gator, but at $3 he couldn't fit my roster. Plus some would argue that Yura was a better overall college TE than Gator, fantasy points being ignored. Both Gator and Yura played a lot detached from the tackles. Josh D over Shuler would be a good argument. But if I'm starting Cato, I want Shuler. During Rockhead's junior year, he loosened defenses in ways that no other RB in MU's history has...bulldozer with Ferrari speed. Play 7 in a box and let Moss run past the safeties? Play 7 in a box and and risk a DB's existence if he tries to make a tackle?
I would go Byron,Bradshaw,Moss,and Yuri . Bradshaw showed he was the real deal in the NFL and Leftwich was headed for a Heisman finalist before his injury. Three superstars and a more than capable tight end ! Yuri would show out over the middle as an afterthought to defenses.
 
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Cato ($3) Moss ($5) Shuler ($2) Chapman ($2) Hoskins ($3)


I’m thinking that with Moss, passing on Pennington or Leftwich doesn’t hurt you as much. Doing that I get a little more elusiveness in the pocket with Cato as well as adding that Cato/Shuler chemistry with the $2 I saved. I can’t imagine how much more effective that combo becomes with Moss in the equation.

I took Hoskins as the highest affordable tight end with $3 left, but taking Rader and Yurachek with that $3 might be better. That would be 4 legitimate receiving threats, including Moss, that would make the other receivers exponentially better with his ability to stretch the field. Plus that would increase our ability to run with two tight end sets.

I agree with Chapman. He’s undervalued.
 
In retrospect, I’d probably go with Rader and Yurachek over Hoskins.
 
I would go Byron,Bradshaw,Moss,and Yuri . Bradshaw showed he was the real deal in the NFL and Leftwich was headed for a Heisman finalist before his injury. Three superstars and a more than capable tight end ! Yuri would show out over the middle as an afterthought to defenses.

I like that too, but my roster gets 4 weapons to surround the QB. Bradshaw was great for MU and in the league...
 
For some reason I assumed we had to have a player from every category. Poor reading comprehension on my part.

Knowing that we don't have to have a TE I'd go Cato ($3), Moss ($5), Shuler ($2) and Bradshaw ($5).

Personally, even if running a spread I think having a tight end body type on the field is better than having all WR's and slot receivers. Both Gator & Yura played a lot detached from the tackles and created match up problems with either DBs or LBs.
 
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Personally, even if running a spread I think having a tight end body type on the field is better than having all WR's and slot receivers. Both Gator & Yura played a lot detached from the tackles and created match up problems with either DBs or LBs.
I agree as long as the TE is a dynamic pass catcher. The closest player we've ever had to that (in my opinion) was Gator Hoskins, which is why I picked him to begin with.
 
I think chapman had an awesome all around game, was super smart, and had no quit in him. I would be ok putting him behind bradshaw, who was a better pro, but i think doug was the better college player.
 
Okay, here's mine, after giving it some thought:

QB - Pennington
QB - Leftwich
WR - Moss
RB - Marshall

Figuring if Pennington goes down, need Leftwich as a backup, because even Randy Moss isn't talented enough to catch a pass from Green.
 
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I know this doesn't fit Rifle's criteria for consideration but I'd take Eric Kresser over every QB on the list with the exception of Pennington and Leftwich. The Kresser to Moss big ball was unfair against I-AA competition and would have had heads spinning at the I-A level.
 
Just give me Chad, Ahmad, and Randy and I'll take people out of the stands to fill the rest.

But if I have to play by the rules

QB - Chad ($5)
WR - Randy ($5)
RB - Rockhead ($4)
TE - Yurachek ($1)
 
Okay, here's mine, after giving it some thought:

QB - Pennington
QB - Leftwich
WR - Moss
RB - Marshall

Figuring if Pennington goes down, need Leftwich as a backup, because even Randy Moss isn't talented enough to catch a pass from Green.

Or you could do like ULM a few years ago and run a two QB set.
 
I know this doesn't fit Rifle's criteria for consideration but I'd take Eric Kresser over every QB on the list with the exception of Pennington and Leftwich. The Kresser to Moss big ball was unfair against I-AA competition and would have had heads spinning at the I-A level.

Good point...on this scale would you rank his value at $4?
 
Good point...on this scale would you rank his value at $4?
I'd have to put his value at $4. That 15-0 season still brings a smile to my face, I'm getting old and senile but I don't think anybody played us to within 2 TD's that year!
 
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