The AD and University are going to watch the Conference COY walk out and head to another conference program? All the while remain dead ass silent through all of it? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Marshall gonna Marshall
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The AD is the one that should be shown the door.
Makes us look bad to lose a head coach to a school in our own conference. I thought that kind of hire wasn’t allowed.
If Huff doesn’t want to be here there’s nothing they can do about it. If they’ve offered extensions and he’s declining them then there’s nothing you can do.
Maybe he loves it here and would like to stay, if that’s the he truth then he’s done a really poor job of showing that.
Maybe he loves it here and would like to stay, if that’s the he truth then he’s done a really poor job of showing that.
I've seen where we offered an extension last year, I don't know how true that is, but if nothing else it was a starting point for negotiations. If they fell apart or never happened then so be it. I'm sure the university doesn't want to get into a pissing match right now so they are letting huff and his team control the narrative and fans imaginations to run wild, for better or worse.
Well, then do or say something. Program is losing recruits daily, half this team is going to hit the portal and quite a few are going with him. Marshall better move quick or they’re going to be miles behind the 8 ball
No reason to worry. I was told on here yesterday that stability in coaching really doesn’t matter these days…..🙄
Small detail, but Huff has not officially been named COY yet. Something/someone called College Football Live named him COY.
He very well may win it, but I would think Louisiana's coach has a great shot, too.
He very well may win it, but I would think Louisiana's coach has a great shot, too.
Right now he is controlling the narrative. You're right they should do something. But I'm not sure what that would be outside of making it public that they have offered him a contract and he is refusing to sign it. Ultimately though I think this may be the right move. If you anger him and he leaves before Saturday you likely lose the game by double digits (he knows this). So as long as everyone in that locker room is focused, your best chance to win is going to be waiting until Sunday.
I think the people leaving are going to leave. They probably already know they're leaving no matter who the coach is. I think you have to try and win the championship Saturday and then deal with everything after. Championships don't come around every year and hurting our chances to win Saturday just to get a jump on the next head coach I think would be a mistake.
Yeah, literally no one state that it doesn't matter and you know that. But once again you and herdfan are like children. What was said was that it did not automatically mean we would be in a full tear down and rebuild mode.
Look, Huff bet on himself and it looks like he won. He had an extension on his desk for a long time but didnt want to sign it for various reasons. Then he went 6-7 and nobody wanted to hire him and we were going to let this year play out. Lets be honest, mid-October, we all thought this was his last season until the team started their end of the season surge.
Huff's tenure has been drama filled since the get-go. From interviewing at Duke, VT, Mich St, and who knows how many others, to calling out the fan base, etc. I think most of the fans are over it.
If they find a way to keep him, cool. If he goes to a conf foe who won 1 game and has even less resources than Marshall, good luck.
One thing i bet is he is trying to get involved in a lot of the openings this week besides USM. Purdue, Charlotte, FIU, Tulsa, ECU, WVU, UCF, UNC, App St, etc are all better jobs than USM (minus FIU). Most of those he has no shot at, but a few he may get an interview. USM is his bird in the hand, but its a bird with one wing.
We'll be fine. I've heard of some potential candidates that would do well here, like Gibson and Clarke, among others.
Huff's tenure has been drama filled since the get-go. From interviewing at Duke, VT, Mich St, and who knows how many others, to calling out the fan base, etc. I think most of the fans are over it.
If they find a way to keep him, cool. If he goes to a conf foe who won 1 game and has even less resources than Marshall, good luck.
One thing i bet is he is trying to get involved in a lot of the openings this week besides USM. Purdue, Charlotte, FIU, Tulsa, ECU, WVU, UCF, UNC, App St, etc are all better jobs than USM (minus FIU). Most of those he has no shot at, but a few he may get an interview. USM is his bird in the hand, but its a bird with one wing.
We'll be fine. I've heard of some potential candidates that would do well here, like Gibson and Clarke, among others.
Schools were already losing 30+ kids in the offseason. We brought in 40-ish from the portal. Due to the portal there's a chance that ANY school, not just ours, could see a mass exodus due to a coaching change. New coaches are going to have a tall task on their hands preventing schools from taking at least a step back for their first season.
I don't think he won. I think he was betting on himself because he thought he was destined for a bigger job. Now all he's left with is going the worst team in the SBC and one of if not the worst teams in the FBS.
Also I don't think that there's any reason to panic. I love that we won the division and I love that Huff brought us wins over ND and VT, but his overall resume is not a hard one to duplicate. Granted our admin has to make a good hire, but we're not trying to replace Bob Pruett.
Wonder if he goes to Southern Miss if he will immediately talk about how difficult it is to live in Hattiesburg and start interviewing for head coach openings?
right. There’s a chance if Huff stays we lose 30-40 kids to the portal. Because that can happen to any G5 school (especially those who are successful). Losing a coach doesn’t necessarily mean a rebuild. Rebuilds happen now faster than ever. Sure, stability is great. I wouldn’t call the CH tenure as stable.
All I’m saying is we can’t be so paralyzed by fear that a new head coach means a total rebuild and we’ll suck for years, that we try and hang on to someone who doesn’t want to be here.
Eagerly awaiting the "hire Chad Pennington" discussions.
I hope that doesn’t happen. Chad is a Marshall legend. Why take a chance of ruining that by becoming the head coach?
I think some are looking at this (potential) decision too myopically. The only real risk to him is that he doesn't turn around a bad program, he's fired and has to go back to assistant level status at a bigger program.
It's all upside after that. 1) Considerable jump in pay for both he and assistant coaches. 2) Takes he and the family back South where they have lived (and coached) before and apparently are comfortable there. 3) Another resume builder if he does turn around S. Miss, assuring him a bigger job at a P5. 4)Additional intangibles offered by the school we dont know about.
This is always a problem Marshall fans seem to have: a weird, misguided belief anyone coaching at Marshall should accept there is nothing better unless you leave for P5 (and even that is met with anger/frustration by many). That living in Hgtn with an undying allegiance to the school and town is the only choice. As someone who grew up in Htgn, still has family there, still visit and go to games.... No way I would move back. One can appreciate all they received from their time there while at the same time wish to go somewhere else that gives them the quality of life THEY want.
...and if MU says,
"Yeah, we offered Huff but he declined..."
Perpetual complainers like Reds, and a few other fools, will say, "Oh boo hoo, this is what we have to accept, MU can't be an attractive job for a HC to stay."
They'll lose whatever supposed confidence they have in MU and the AD and use it to, once more, bash the program.
Of course, forgetting this is, once more, EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED.
Remember?
"MU needs a young, energetic HC who can get us to a championship and then move on elsewhere. I'll be happy with that."
"DURRRRRR MU ISN'T KEEPING THE HC!!! MU SUCKS!!"
Just a week ago everyone was saying how bad coach Huff is because, "DURRR GA SOUTHERN!"
My God, I actually agree with you.
I will say, Huff has been pretty quiet on the whole thing and it seems that he really does want to reduce distractions and win this Saturday.
Most coaches are gone before then.
A SBC title, potential CoY, and his record currently, would only elevate his stock.
He knows it.
More importantly, MU knows it.
MU can absolutely benefit from his own ego-driven approach to success because MU is in a desirable position to be sought after by a new HC, and is riding momentum.
So why disrupt that with saying anything? It's been pretty well established that MU probably HAS offered an extension, but Huff can hold out and with a SBC title, he's going to be more expensive to retain.
Pretty smart move if you ask me. Also shows a HC will bet on himself and is confident.
The boom you hear are some heads exploding around Herd country.
Let this all go.
CH turned in a performance that his own lapdog AD said was "unacceptable" (before accepting it). To save some money, instead of just firing CH on the spot, he left him in a limbo. To a degree CH "bet on himself" but really not. He had no place else to go, nobody in his right mind walks away from straight cash homie.
So he played out his contract and is now a free agent. CH remains who he has always been. A .600 coach, closer to .500 when you take out the 5 I-AA wins. He had a one year good record against the weakest possible schedule the SBC can produce based on the imbalance between the east and west divisions this year and who we played in the west.
So he is going to keep quiet for the week, IMHO because the championship game is considered part of the regular season and we can screw him out of his bonuses if he quits now. Then he is going to take his act to USM, and reset the fed up with this guy meter back to zero and continue his, so far failed, quest to get life changing inter-generational wealth in the P4. He will be looking at getting out of Hattiesburg on the next plane out and his (super genius) press guy will have his name in salted stories for every opening out there.
Enjoy the championship game. Enjoy the bowl game and support whoever the interim coach is for it. Hope that this AD, who has shown no leadership whatsoever up until now, makes a reasonable pick in what will and should be the defining decision of his tenure here.
We should expect more than .600, While, yes, the main purpose of any coach here is to move on up, we should expect more than a guy who takes a job interview on his cell phone the day after the Notre Dame win while at dinner with his staff. We are a good fan base, among the best at our level (in fact, our fan base is the VERY REASON we are at this level), and should expect not to be lectured about the atmosphere not being Alabama or Texas A&M level crazy.
We can do better, and the next coach deserves our 100% support.
CH turned in a performance that his own lapdog AD said was "unacceptable" (before accepting it). To save some money, instead of just firing CH on the spot, he left him in a limbo. To a degree CH "bet on himself" but really not. He had no place else to go, nobody in his right mind walks away from straight cash homie.
So he played out his contract and is now a free agent. CH remains who he has always been. A .600 coach, closer to .500 when you take out the 5 I-AA wins. He had a one year good record against the weakest possible schedule the SBC can produce based on the imbalance between the east and west divisions this year and who we played in the west.
So he is going to keep quiet for the week, IMHO because the championship game is considered part of the regular season and we can screw him out of his bonuses if he quits now. Then he is going to take his act to USM, and reset the fed up with this guy meter back to zero and continue his, so far failed, quest to get life changing inter-generational wealth in the P4. He will be looking at getting out of Hattiesburg on the next plane out and his (super genius) press guy will have his name in salted stories for every opening out there.
Enjoy the championship game. Enjoy the bowl game and support whoever the interim coach is for it. Hope that this AD, who has shown no leadership whatsoever up until now, makes a reasonable pick in what will and should be the defining decision of his tenure here.
We should expect more than .600, While, yes, the main purpose of any coach here is to move on up, we should expect more than a guy who takes a job interview on his cell phone the day after the Notre Dame win while at dinner with his staff. We are a good fan base, among the best at our level (in fact, our fan base is the VERY REASON we are at this level), and should expect not to be lectured about the atmosphere not being Alabama or Texas A&M level crazy.
We can do better, and the next coach deserves our 100% support.
I like the A&M comp.
They want so much more than reality dictates.
W L
2024 8 4
2023 7 6
2022 5 7
2021 8 4
2020 9 1
2019 8 5
2018 9 4
2017 7 6
2016 8 5
2015 8 5
2014 8 5
2013 9 4
2012 11 2
2011 7 6
2010 9 4
2009 6 7
2008 4 8
2007 7 6
2006 9 4
2005 5 6
152 99
They want so much more than reality dictates.
W L
2024 8 4
2023 7 6
2022 5 7
2021 8 4
2020 9 1
2019 8 5
2018 9 4
2017 7 6
2016 8 5
2015 8 5
2014 8 5
2013 9 4
2012 11 2
2011 7 6
2010 9 4
2009 6 7
2008 4 8
2007 7 6
2006 9 4
2005 5 6
152 99
I would like someone making more than 99% of people in this state to not act like its a chore to live here. And like he is doing us a favor for existing here. Is that asking for undying allegiance? nah.
There hasn't been this season no. He was told at the end of last year that it was in the conference or bust. The Southern Miss stuff didn't just appear out of nowhere. Whether it was leverage or not, Huff or his agent has tried every single season to leave.
Absolutely.
I 100% get that Marshall is not a terminal destination for any coach in any sport (save for men's soccer, and someday someone will write a great dissertation on how West Virginia became the epicenter of college soccer in the USA). 100% get it. 100%.
BUT, CH rolled into town looking for another job, lecturing the fan base about "atmosphere", and looking down on the city, state, and region. I did not hear that from any coach, in any sport, since Billy Donovan.
Hey, different parts of this great country are, well, different. Some people are not going to like it here, but be you a ball coach, a professor, student, USA COE transferee, doctor or other health care worker, businessman, or whatever looking at Huntington, look before you leap.
He's too smart to even go down that road
That's what I don't understand. Did his wife not come with him and look around before he got the job? He could have declined and stayed with Saban, making the same cash.
I guess they thought they could stand hell on earth for 2-3 years and then move on.
It's now year 4 and they can't take it anymore.
I could see that in some capacity. He still has one son in middle/high school
I remember a few years back he said he would not want to deal with college recruiting and having to be on the road constantly. I bet with the portal and NIL he feels even stronger in that feeling.
I truly believe they thought this job was a 1-2 year job and he was going to be able to have success rather quickly and move on. How many times did he say early on that he was only here to close the gap. I don't care what you think of 2020, but we were a division champs with a pretty well stocked roster. You could see it in his recruiting early on that he was trying to catch lightning in a bottle.
Here we are 4 years later and Huff doesn't have a P4 job and it appears he may have overplayed his hand leveraging this one for an extension.
We can be mad now, but after last season most people not only understood, but applauded Smith and Spears for telling Huff that he had to win the conference to even begin talks of an extension. After GaSo and up until the pick six to tie the game against JMU most everyone was ready to move on.
Overall this has not been a good partnership. Make no mistake. We could have agreed on an extension and he still would have had his agent putting his name into jobs before the end of next season.
Agreed. A lot of speculation by many who have no real knowledge or specifics.
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