Money talks, bullsh*t walks

[ThunderCat98]

NBA realizes nobody gives a flying fvck about players' political views.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...draw-black-lives-matter-jerseys-1537280?amp=1

 

[WV-FAN]

only time in my life i ever watched any nba was when the GOAT was playing. use to love watching him. other than that, never watched before SJW's shit in their panties over criminals being killed, never watched during the protests, won't watch after. double screw the nba.

 

[19MU88]

Not sure the NBA is entirely clued in. The moron says people are like "I'm on your side but I just want to watch a basketball game". wrong. not on your side or the side of that marxist, family hating, U.S. hating organization.

 

[i am herdman]

saw that, glad they are standing on their ideals and moral compass.

hahaa, NBA was tanking and just a word of advice to the NBA, shut that idiot Lebron James up.

 

[riflearm2]

Tier Three and the morons strike again.

You think Silver is removing the court and Jersey phrases due to low ratings? You realize that the NBA finals are usually played in May/June, right? You realize that the only competition at that time is early MLB regular season games, right? This year, they are competing with MLB playoffs, NHL playoffs, NFL games, and NCAA football games.

Of course their ratings are going to be lower. Hell, I bet the ratings for all of those events are lower due to people splitting between what they want to watch more.

God damn, people, have a little common sense before posting.

 

[mlblack16.]

Tier Three and the morons strike again.

You think Silver is removing the court and Jersey phrases due to low ratings? You realize that the NBA finals are usually played in May/June, right? You realize that the only competition at that time is early MLB regular season games, right? This year, they are competing with MLB playoffs, NHL playoffs, NFL games, and NCAA football games.

Of course their ratings are going to be lower. Hell, I bet the ratings for all of those events are lower due to people splitting between what they want to watch more.

God damn, people, have a little common sense before posting.

So then, they're just removing the political bullshit and pandering, because it's "necessary for change?"

 

[ThunderCat98]

God damn, people, have a little common sense before posting.

Common sense would be acknowledging that the whole BLM/SJW/woke movement is a substantial part of the ratings dip.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Tier Three and the morons strike again.

You think Silver is removing the court and Jersey phrases due to low ratings? You realize that the NBA finals are usually played in May/June, right? You realize that the only competition at that time is early MLB regular season games, right? This year, they are competing with MLB playoffs, NHL playoffs, NFL games, and NCAA football games.

Of course their ratings are going to be lower. Hell, I bet the ratings for all of those events are lower due to people splitting between what they want to watch more.

God damn, people, have a little common sense before posting.

Please now explain the substantial decline in ratings that occurred last year, during the time when the finals were played in May/June.

 

[riflearm2]

So then, they're just removing the political bullshit and pandering, because it's "necessary for change?"

You expected them to have it for years? Why doesn’t MLB wear 9/11 patches and logos on the bags or wear #42 jerseys (honoring Jackie Robinson) for every game? Likewise, the NBA isn’t going to entirely have a facelift for decades. It doesn’t mean MLB doesn’t honor the 9/11 victims or racial equality, and it doesn’t mean the NBA doesn’t fight for racial equality.

Common sense would be acknowledging that the whole BLM/SJW/woke movement is a substantial part of the ratings dip.

Oh? You should take that up with the racist in Michigan who claims the dip happened last year before the NBA had BLM logos/phrases on jerseys, etc.

Doh!

Please now explain the substantial decline in ratings that occurred last year, during the time when the finals were played in May/June.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Oh? You should take that up with the racist in Michigan who claims the dip happened last year before the NBA had BLM logos/phrases on jerseys, etc.

Doh!

No, he doesn't need to take it up with me. For the last two years, viewership has continued to go down, with last year seeing a huge dip. I chalked it up to the casual fans growing tired of hearing NBA coaches and players preaching politics to them, which are typically one sided. That, and their reluctance to call out the CCP.

This current season, their ratings have really tanked, something like an additional 20% beyond last year's woeful ratings. I know you're smart enough to know why, and it has everything to do with these athletes and coaches being 'woke'. Add in the stupid uniform statements, and the BLM being sprayed prominently on the playing court, and you know that's why ratings have tanked. Certainly, having more competition played a role, but I suggest it's a small role. NBA regular season and early round playoff ratings were already tanking prior to the NFL and NCAA starting the season.

Here's a suggestion:

Why don't you simply blame the NBA finals tanking on racist fans? Wouldn't that be the easy way out? Plus, you would have a legitimate point as to why some of the decline is occurring.

 

[mlblack16.]

You expected them to have it for years? Why doesn’t MLB wear 9/11 patches and logos on the bags or wear #42 jerseys (honoring Jackie Robinson) for every game? Likewise, the NBA isn’t going to entirely have a facelift for decades. It doesn’t mean MLB doesn’t honor the 9/11 victims or racial equality, and it doesn’t mean the NBA doesn’t fight for racial equality.

Nah, I expected them to continue until racial inequality is solved. I mean, if it's that important and an ongoing (unlike a one day disaster like 9-11) issue, then we, the fans, need constant virtue signalling reminders that it still exists.

 

[19MU88]

Common sense would be acknowledging that the whole BLM/SJW/woke movement is a substantial part of the ratings dip.

well, for those indoctrinated leftist, common sense is replaced by their ideological view of the world. you can present facts and they won't believe you. there is a video of a former KGB agent explaining that clearly.

 

[riflearm2]

This current season, their ratings have really tanked, something like an additional 20% beyond last year's woeful ratings. I know you're smart enough to know why, and it has everything to do with these athletes and coaches being 'woke'. Add in the stupid uniform statements, and the BLM being sprayed prominently on the playing court, and you know that's why ratings have tanked. Certainly, having more competition played a role, but I suggest it's a small role. NBA regular season and early round playoff ratings were already tanking prior to the NFL and NCAA starting the season.

According to you, it has gone down 20% in these playoffs.

Tier Three's claim is that the drop is due to the logos/jerseys/protest of games this post-season supporting BLM.
Your claim is that the drop started before the logos/jerseys/protest of games supporting BLM started, and that the drop this post-season is due to players vocally speaking out against racial inequality last season.

And then, to double-down on your stupidity, you claim that the playoffs this season having to go head-to-head with MLB playoffs, NFL regular season, NHL playoffs, and NCAA regular season football only has a minor role in that 20% drop.

How about this: compare NFL ratings last regular season vs. this regular season. Do the same for MLB playoff ratings and NCAA regular season football ratings. What you'll see is that viewership is down across the board for sports. So you take viewership being down (there are more important things going on in people's lives than watching sports this year), add in increased competition for what sports people want to watch compared to what the NBA playoffs are used to, and you get a 20% drop which is completely understandable.

Let me clue you morons in on something: The overwhelming majority of people who watch and are interested in the NBA support BLM and racial equality. Their core fanbase doesn't give a shit if LeBron shoots his warmup shots in a BLM t-shirt.

Common sense, people. Get some.

 

[MichiganHerd]

According to you, it has gone down 20% in these playoffs.

Tier Three's claim is that the drop is due to the logos/jerseys/protest of games this post-season supporting BLM.
Your claim is that the drop started before the logos/jerseys/protest of games supporting BLM started, and that the drop this post-season is due to players vocally speaking out against racial inequality last season.

And then, to double-down on your stupidity, you claim that the playoffs this season having to go head-to-head with MLB playoffs, NFL regular season, NHL playoffs, and NCAA regular season football only has a minor role in that 20% drop.

How about this: compare NFL ratings last regular season vs. this regular season. Do the same for MLB playoff ratings and NCAA regular season football ratings. What you'll see is that viewership is down across the board for sports. So you take viewership being down (there are more important things going on in people's lives than watching sports this year), add in increased competition for what sports people want to watch compared to what the NBA playoffs are used to, and you get a 20% drop which is completely understandable.

Let me clue you morons in on something: The overwhelming majority of people who watch and are interested in the NBA support BLM and racial equality. Their core fanbase doesn't give a shit if LeBron shoots his warmup shots in a BLM t-shirt.

Common sense, people. Get some.

You're arguing just to be arguing, damn near greed-like at this point.

FACTS:

NBA ratings have been in a steady decline for the last three years.
NBA ratings for this post season are the worst they've ever been in the modern era.

CONCLUSION:

You may say it's due mostly to more competition from other sports, but I say it's due to most people not wanting to see AHB league becoming over 'woke', actually going well overboard. Also, don't forget that they went on strike for a game or two, due to the felon in Kenosha getting rightfully shot by the police, due to irrational behavior, including getting the ole stun gun, wrestling/fighting with the cops on the sidewalk, and then running to his car and reaching into the floor board. Lebron had to play make believe King once again, and walked out of a players meeting like a baby, just as he did when walking off the court after Game 3, with time still remaining on the clock. People have tuned out, and rightfully so. But yeah, you go ahead and blame it on the Mets-Phillies game, and maybe you may be able to convince greed to agree with you. I won't though.

 

[WV-FAN]

You're arguing just to be arguing, damn near greed-like at this point.

FACTS:

NBA ratings have been in a steady decline for the last three years.
NBA ratings for this post season are the worst they've ever been in the modern era.

CONCLUSION:

You may say it's due mostly to more competition from other sports, but I say it's due to most people not wanting to see AHB league becoming over 'woke', actually going well overboard. Also, don't forget that they went on strike for a game or two, due to the felon in Kenosha getting rightfully shot by the police, due to irrational behavior, including getting the ole stun gun, wrestling/fighting with the cops on the sidewalk, and then running to his car and reaching into the floor board. Lebron had to play make believe King once again, and walked out of a players meeting like a baby, just as he did when walking off the court after Game 3, with time still remaining on the clock. People have tuned out, and rightfully so. But yeah, you go ahead and blame it on the Mets-Phillies game, and maybe you may be able to convince greed to agree with you. I won't though.

he can't admit that the decline is because people are getting tired of the BLM and other bullshit, it'd destroy a host of his other arguments and beliefs.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Let me clue you morons in on something: The overwhelming majority of people who watch and are interested in the NBA support BLM and racial equality. Their core fanbase doesn't give a shit if LeBron shoots his warmup shots in a BLM t-shirt.

I 100% agree with that.

 

[19MU88]

I 100% agree with that.

I think he meant to say the overwhelming majority of NBA fans left support BLM.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

I don't know what NFL or college ratings are looking like, but I wonder if people may realize post COVID they don't miss sports as much as they thought? It's probably my phase of life, but I don't keep up now like I used to and can't say I miss watching a ton of sports. In the past few years I have enjoyed the tailgates more than the games on the occasion I go to a football game. Just being around friends and drinking.

I love coaching my son's baseball team or going to the soccer games, but I'm just kind of lukewarm on sports outside of fantasy football interest.

 

[ThunderCat98]

The Finals' ratings are the culmination of an ongoing decline. Why is that difficult for you to understand? The decrease in your hair follicles has somehow impacted your brain function.

 

[Sean Hammond]

I don't know what NFL or college ratings are looking like, but I wonder if people may realize post COVID they don't miss sports as much as they thought? It's probably my phase of life, but I don't keep up now like I used to and can't say I miss watching a ton of sports. In the past few years I have enjoyed the tailgates more than the games on the occasion I go to a football game. Just being around friends and drinking.

I love coaching my son's baseball team or going to the soccer games, but I'm just kind of lukewarm on sports outside of fantasy football interest.

I have much of the same feelings. I just don’t find each & every sporting event enjoyable like I used to. I’ve gotten sucked into the addicting DraftKings/Fanduel apps. I usually have a $5-$10 bet each night. Fantasy football too. That keeps me engaged, but I don’t watch sports like I used to. I also enjoy following sports by reading updates on Twitter instead of watching the games. Go look at comments/likes from some teams’ beat writers and you’ll see that a lot of people do the same.

I don’t need to sit down and watch a game anymore unless it’s Marshall football/basketball or some NFL games that intrigue me.

 

[Rock98Dog]

Why did Silver mention that he has heard and recognizes that fans are saying “they just want to watch a game” if that has little or nothing to do with the change and ratings?

 

[raleighherdfan]

Why did Silver mention that he has heard and recognizes that fans are saying “they just want to watch a game” if that has little or nothing to do with the change and ratings?

 

[riflearm2]

FACTS:

NBA ratings have been in a steady decline for the last three years.

FAKE NEWS!

Average rating per regular season game on broadcast networks:

18-19: 2.2
17-18: 2.2
16-17: 1.9
15-16: 2.3
14-15: 2.2
13-14: 2.3

Why lie?

NBA ratings for this post season are the worst they've ever been in the modern era.

"The NBA Finals faced unprecedented sports competition.

Game 1 aired opposite two Major League Baseball playoff games. ESPN averaged 2.535 million viewers for the New York Yankees’ 10-9 victory over the Cleveland Indians in the longest nine-inning game in major league history: four hours, 50 minutes. (The game length did not include the 76-minute rain delay.)

The Dodgers’ 4-2 victory over the Milwaukee Brewers, which mainly aired on ESPN 2, averaged 1.09 million.

Game 3 Sunday began 55 minutes before NBC’s “Sunday Night Football” game between the Philadelphia Eagles and San Francisco 49ers, which averaged 15.084 million viewers, second among prime-time programs between Sept. 28 and Sunday."

But yeah, you go ahead and blame it on the Mets-Phillies game

It was the Yankees game (huge fan base), the Dodgers game (huge fan base), and an NFL Sunday night game between two popular teams. Yes, all three of those games had a huge impact on the number of people who watch the NBA Finals.

Why must you fabricate bullshit to try and make an argument? The overwhelming number of NBA fans are BLM supporters. The only ones who bitch about players wearing a BLM t-shirt during warmups are the ones who haven't watched an NBA game since Larry Bird retired. You're wrong, I'm right, and it's why you refuse to acknowledge that overall viewership for all sports is drastically lower.

 

[MichiganHerd]

FAKE NEWS!

Average rating per regular season game on broadcast networks:

18-19: 2.2
17-18: 2.2
16-17: 1.9
15-16: 2.3
14-15: 2.2
13-14: 2.3

Why lie?



"The NBA Finals faced unprecedented sports competition.

Game 1 aired opposite two Major League Baseball playoff games. ESPN averaged 2.535 million viewers for the New York Yankees’ 10-9 victory over the Cleveland Indians in the longest nine-inning game in major league history: four hours, 50 minutes. (The game length did not include the 76-minute rain delay.)

The Dodgers’ 4-2 victory over the Milwaukee Brewers, which mainly aired on ESPN 2, averaged 1.09 million.

Game 3 Sunday began 55 minutes before NBC’s “Sunday Night Football” game between the Philadelphia Eagles and San Francisco 49ers, which averaged 15.084 million viewers, second among prime-time programs between Sept. 28 and Sunday."



It was the Yankees game (huge fan base), the Dodgers game (huge fan base), and an NFL Sunday night game between two popular teams. Yes, all three of those games had a huge impact on the number of people who watch the NBA Finals.

Why must you fabricate bullshit to try and make an argument? The overwhelming number of NBA fans are BLM supporters. The only ones who bitch about players wearing a BLM t-shirt during warmups are the ones who haven't watched an NBA game since Larry Bird retired. You're wrong, I'm right, and it's why you refuse to acknowledge that overall viewership for all sports is drastically lower.

Awesome, now show the ratings for the NBA finals for the last five years, which was what the thread is all about.

 

[riflearm2]

Awesome, now show the ratings for the NBA finals for the last five years, which was what the thread is all about.

Now, you’re going back to arguing against Tier Three’s claim. You deplorables are disagreeing with each other.

Tier Three claims that this year’s BLM activities (logo on court, jersey phrases, sitting out games) are the reason for the drop. Your claim is that it’s been a culmination of the NBA’s discussion of race problems and acceptance of BLM.

If that’s not already a problem with your argument, you just made it worse. You now inferred that the finals have been dropping for the last five years. However, the NBA hasn’t been involved with BLM and going overboard with their promotion of such a mission over the last five years. It’s only been the past two to three years at most. So if the drop in ratings started five years ago but the BLM promotion started more recently, how is that the blame for the drop?

Doh!

Again, look at the ratings for the other sports currently. They’ve all dropped. Add to it the increased competition that the NBA Finals have this year that they never usually have, and it doesn’t take a deplorable to figure it out.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Now, you’re going back to arguing against Tier Three’s claim. You deplorables are disagreeing with each other.

Tier Three claims that this year’s BLM activities (logo on court, jersey phrases, sitting out games) are the reason for the drop. Your claim is that it’s been a culmination of the NBA’s discussion of race problems and acceptance of BLM.

If that’s not already a problem with your argument, you just made it worse. You now inferred that the finals have been dropping for the last five years. However, the NBA hasn’t been involved with BLM and going overboard with their promotion of such a mission over the last five years. It’s only been the past two to three years at most. So if the drop in ratings started five years ago but the BLM promotion started more recently, how is that the blame for the drop?

Doh!

Again, look at the ratings for the other sports currently. They’ve all dropped. Add to it the increased competition that the NBA Finals have this year that they never usually have, and it doesn’t take a deplorable to figure it out.

Reread posts #10 and #13.

That's my stance regarding the woes of the NBA. I'm not here to support or argue against other people's posts.

I stand by my comments because they're correct.

Bottom line:

NBA ratings are tanking due to coaches/players bringing politics into their league (started with pops, doc, and others when Trump was elected), and now has worsened to unforeseen levels due to the 'woke culture' movements.

 

[Rock98Dog]

Rifle, please refer to post 21 so you can school me?