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I know a lot of y’all will crucify me for this opinion but I find what UCF is doing absolutely pathetic and embarrassing.
And if we were 13-0 and had beaten Auburn, we would be doing it too.
I would hope not.And if we were 13-0 and had beaten Auburn, we would be doing it too.
And if we were 13-0 and had beaten Auburn, we would be doing it too.
I both think it is a stunt and support it. It was because teams crowned themselves champions which originally forced change to the old bowl system. As much of a stunt as it is, people talk about the underlying message of it, and many of the P5 crowd don’t come off too much better than UCF. This keeps happening and a few talking heads start taking the counter position on tv and radio for the sake of debate, and eventually maybe we get some real inclusion in CFB like in CBB.
I understand your point but can’t remenber any school declaring a championship and having it recognized by the body of the sport.
The only people that ever recognize this stuff is the program itself. It’s kind of like when our fans say we’ve won college football national championships. No one cares because it’s not FBS or 1A af the time. It’s just us patting ourselves on the back. Same with UCF this year. Same with any team who declares this stuff. Isn’t the first time and won’t be the last
I thought Marshall received trophies for ‘92 and ‘96 that read Div 1-AA National Champion.
That’s right- but I’ve literally heard our fans arguing with others before at a WVU Marshall Bball game saying ‘who has more national championships?’
It was embarrassing.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/1/year/2017/seasontype/3
UCF # 6 in final AP rankings. Believe that is the highest any outside of the power 5 have ever finished the season.
I'm sorry, but the cries of the unfairness of the CFP system is ridiculous. In the portion of their 2018 schedule that UCF controlled, they chose to schedule Georgia Tech, Maryland, FIU and Maine. With eight G5 teams already on the schedule, they chose to play another G5, an FCS team, and two of the weakest teams in all of P5.
That's not a schedule you put together to prove you belong in the CFP, that's the schedule you make when you want to have a bullsh-- parade at Disney World the day of the actual National Championship game.
If Marshall was doing this we'd be all over it like stink on a Monkey. Just to be a pain in the ass to those jerks at the NCAA.
Me either. I'm happy to see them do well. I think anytime a fellow G5 member has this much success has to be a positive for the G5 schools. They once were a rival, and I guess some didn't like losing to them, so now they have hate in their hearts.Hatred of UCF on here is something I dont understand
Me either. I'm happy to see them do well. I think anytime a fellow G5 member has this much success has to be a positive for the G5 schools. They once were a rival, and I guess some didn't like losing to them, so now they have hate in their hearts.
Can you not read? I clearly stated that they once were a rival, and I guess some didn't like losing to them, so now they have hate in their hearts. In other words, I provided back to Sistersville the reason why some fans dislike UCF. However, as stated, I'm happy for their success, and feel it's good for the rest of the G5. The more chaos a good G5 program can place into the current system, the better for all. We need to get the playoff expanded, so other G5 programs having the type of season UCF just completed has to be good for that. With that said, I realize they didn't play a world beater schedule, and quite frankly, it's hard for a G5 program to do so, unless you want to begin the season playing (4) prominent P5 programs on the road. Even then, those that pick the final four will dwell on your conference schedule. This is a P5 party, and unfortunately, nobody else is invited.So, its on the fans for disliking a school that was their rival?
I know a lot of y’all will crucify me for this opinion but I find what UCF is doing absolutely pathetic and embarrassing.
Hatred of UCF on here is something I dont understand
And ToledumpThere's 3 teams in the G5 that I actively root against... Based on a number of factors, but primarily due to experiences as an opposing fan at their stadium and/or interacting with their fans at our stadium.
That list... UCF, Miami Ohio and Western Kentucky.
Hatred of UCF on here is something I dont understand
....so now they have hate in their hearts.
Can you not read? I clearly stated that they once were a rival, and I guess some didn't like losing to them, so now they have hate in their hearts. In other words, I provided back to Sistersville the reason why some fans dislike UCF. However, as stated, I'm happy for their success, and feel it's good for the rest of the G5. The more chaos a good G5 program can place into the current system, the better for all. We need to get the playoff expanded, so other G5 programs having the type of season UCF just completed has to be good for that. With that said, I realize they didn't play a world beater schedule, and quite frankly, it's hard for a G5 program to do so, unless you want to begin the season playing (4) prominent P5 programs on the road. Even then, those that pick the final four will dwell on your conference schedule. This is a P5 party, and unfortunately, nobody else is invited.
Some on here are apparently very ignorant of how college football schedules are put together.
I'll bet this season's UCF schedule was made before Scott Frost ever set foot in Orlando. Games with GA Tech and Maryland were probably finalized a few years ago.
MU got a home and home with NAVY starting about 3 or 4 years from now. Deal was done 2 or 3 years ago. Think Hamrick or Doc at that time had any idea at that time what kind of team Navy will have in 2020 or 2021, 22? Did anybody at MU have any inkling when the games with Louisville were finalized that the Cards would have a Heisman winner at QB in 2016??
Its a 2 way street when it comes to scheduling. If a MU or a UCF want or needs to play a power school they need to find such a school who is agreeable to play them. Easier said than done. So UCF suddenly got an opening on their 2017 schedule and filled with with a G5 or FCS opponent. Did any of you think that maybe there were NO available or willing Power opponents who wanted, or could, play the Knights? Nearly every FBS team had their 2017 schedules finalized and Full by early last summer, if not earlier.
Why do you guys think that MU played Concord in basketball this season? Word is that Danny and Mark Cline couldn't find a suitable major or D1 opponent to fill that opening, even if the Herd was willing to go on the road.
Just like every thing else in college sports, scheduling is something in which the "haves" or Power programs have most of, if not all, the say so and control. Just ask Mike Hamrick about now many times he has tried to get a game with the Kentucky "Mildcats", another of those exalted, SEC programs, whether in Huntington, Lexington, Cincy, or Timbuktu. The answer is always the same!!
The man crush seems strong with the BB “practice reporters”. Just saynMan crush?
Back during the "great realignment" there was a proposal for the G5 conferences to work together. CUSA and the MWC were in. The Exit Fee Conference, AKA THE AMERICAN!!!!!!!!! rejected this and since that time has continued to try to undermine the other four of the Group of 5. As such, I root against all AAC members.
If you ever hear Aresco speak, he tries real hard to not refer to the AAC as a G5 conference but a "P6 conderence."
Sad thing is, he slips up often, especially when he is casually asked anything relating to the G5, as referencing the AAC as a G5 conference.
On Rick Neuhiesel's show, he did that alot, and actually talked himself out of saying "G5."
In short, he thumbs his nose up at everyone else in the G5 and frankly, its obnoxious.
Its like he punishes himself off camera with a smack to the face when he says "AAC" and "G5" in the same sentence.
Now I hear some ucf fans set up a billboard in Tuscaloosa saying Alabama should play a 1:1 with ucf...
This is exactly why someone like UCF will be passed over for someone else.
Utah won a few BCS bowls...instead of bragging as bad as ucf is, they simply applied for admission to the Pac 12 and got in. Same with TCU, minus that old bastard Gee calling them 'Sisters of the Poor' which they did post in Columbus, but that was it.
Ucf is taking their 15 mins of fame and instead of making it a good story to talk about in the offseason, is making themselves look real desperate.
Oh and Alabama may play them, who knows, at which point, you don't want a Frostless team playing against a juggernaut of Saban...that is a game you will not win. We just saw that.