Rivals just reported that your boy Dewayne Grantham committed to WVU.
https://westvirginia.rivals.com/news/grantham-is-a-mountaineer
https://westvirginia.rivals.com/news/grantham-is-a-mountaineer
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I saw that this morning. I can tell you without a doubt that at this point Marshall is not active in the Panhandle and no one knows why. Did Walker(Coach at Martinsburg) and Doc have a falling out over the olineman that went to Charlotte with Ratliff? Not sure but at this point there is not a good feeling about Marshall in the football community here.
I hope something changes but little to no contact in this area.
I hope something changes but little to no contact in this area.
Phil bit his tongue and kept his punching power in nuetral when him and Doc had a blow out before Phil left. It was not pretty. Doc not being a Herd alum didnt have the required respect for Phil he should have had.
Captainjb22 spoke highly of Bagent's QB skills and game management in a recent thread, since he and his team have faced Bagent's and his Martinsburg Bulldogs in the last 2 years.
What does being a Herd alumni have to do with showing respect?
It’s like having a crazy family. Only those that are blood understand the craziness and bond. Phil had it and Doc didn’t. There is a strong bond (you know it and see it) between former Herd football alums and the program/school.
I get that, but making some outlandish comment insinuating that Doc doesn’t get the family aspect of Marshall or respect it’s alumni is ridiculous.
People demand MU "think outside the box" and they get an outsider like Doc, then they demand Doc act a certain way and if he doesn't go with it,then argue and leave town. Seems like you can't have it all. You want an MU guy? Then don't complain about the "good ole boy network" because that's what you get. If you want an outside the box type, then don't expect them to assimilate the exact way you want.
I think Doc has done a good job considering. I also agree, that he does understand much of the family aspect of Marshall.
And Jalen Hesen has committed to Shepherd. Good luck to him. We can close the books on this one.
Still about 10 days till the "second" signing date. Prefer that the Coaching staff concentrates on those players who want to be at MU and play for the Herd! Could care less to hear about those who don't!!
Eastern Panhandle is NOT the only source of quality college football talent by a long shot!
Eastern Panhandle is NOT the only source of quality college football talent by a long shot!
yes, central Michigan and one other D1 school came in late but he would have gone there and paid his own way the first year.
I agree with this statement but from what I understand was Doc was down right mean to Phil. I think it put Hamrick in a bad spot and that's why he put out that presser saying Phil would be back someday as our head coach. Also, Doc is very hard on all of his coaches.
I think part of the problem is those who "demand MU think outside the box," are not in positions of authority.
Also, I don't think most of the fanbase wants necessarily "an MU guy," they just don't care for the person being a WVU guy. Considering the disdain between the 2 schools, that's certainly understandable.
I don't agree with that mentality, but it's obvious it exists and would explain why fans say some of the things they do about Doc.
Actually, this may be an issue the President should consider because we don't even have anyone up here trying to recruit students. Its the fastest growing area in the state and many students don't want the same options of WVU and Shepherd. Someone come up and speak at a Chamber or Rotary meeting and have an interview with the local newspaper. Lots or Marshall alums here.
I agree with what you're saying, I just think the whole "he's from wvu" thing is getting old. People need to accept; Doc is from wvu. Doc wants to win here. There is no conspiracy against MU.
I agree, Doc wants to be at Marshall and wants to win. Im just not convinced he really knows what he is doing part of the time.
based on my opinion, Doc is not good enough to get a job someplace else and that to me is a strong indicator.
Well, he’s been offered jobs at two different P5 schools during his time here and passed them up so.......
I highly doubt that.
Some people find their niche in random places.
Outside of Florida and a small handful of others, would actually lure Doc away.
I think age is a bit of a factor, but also, you do realize, just because a school offers, does not mean the coach immediately agrees.
Perhaps, its impossible to believe this for some, Marshall is where he feels the most comfortable? Enough money he actually takes a pay cut to pay coordinators, a fanbase who cares (almost too much) about the program, and a conference he can win in.
I think he has enough ability to have a career here and finish with MU.
so you are saying Doc was offered the HC job at a Power 5 school and turned it down? Unless it was Kansas, I am having a hard time with that without a name.
I am having a hard time even thinking of a Power 5 school whose pay starts at less then $1.5 million a year, and as a new coach would be guaranteed for at least 4 yrs.
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Oh he can find a job in a New York Minute to be a lead recruiter for a large P5 school. What head job was he offered?
Then the first question, 6, is are all those alums in the eastern panhandle organized into a chapter? If not, why not? If enough alums show interest in forming a chapter, then the Alumni Association would be more than willing to help establish one. Then the chapter can work with local civic and other groups to get people from MU like President Gilbert in to speak. Believe groups like CC and Rotary would be more receptive if there is an active group of people in that area, Herd alums, fans, etc., who are organized and interested in having a representative from the school come in to talk with people in the panhandle and surrounding area.
That's about what I figured. I can believe that Doc was offered a chance to interview for a power 5 job HC, but to say Doc had a firm offer from a President/AD of a power 5 school and a contract for $x.00 to be their HFC, I have a tough time believing that. Too much money involved.
Considering Doc has been mostly successful here, I will never understand why folks keep using his WVU ties against him as a reason to be against him. No he didn't start out the best as a HC, but it didn't take him long to get up to par. I personally love his old school coaching, unfortunately we have pampered kids these days that can't hack his style. I believe that is one reason why many leave, they never dealt with rules and refuse to follow when they are given them. They aren't irreplaceable, and he shows them that, but we have to have something to complain and point fingers at, right?
You don’t have to believe it, but people throwing out ridiculous accusations shouldn’t be seen as truthful either then.
I didn't say anything about them, their comments are not germane to this conversation, re: Doc being offered a Power 5 HC job.
Sure they are. The OP stated, “Doc is not good enough to get a job somewhere else.”
I dropped some facts on them, and you chose not to believe them.
Uh actually no, the OP said, 'Rivals just reported that your boy Dewayne Grantham committed to WVU.'
that's it, someone else went on a tangent. You made a comment that Doc was offered a HFC position at a Power 5 school, I called BS on that, and explained too much money involved for him to do that, providing of course it was legit offer. Your comment was what you knew was off the record, which at best, it is what I think of Doc's offer.
But you are correct, I don't believe it. FTR do I believe he was offered job in power 5 as an AFC, sure. At 7 figure level, sure especially with the money they throw around today. There is a difference between being a HFC and AFC.
Maybe if Doc had access to Herdnation's Alumni board he'd understand.......
