Obama really put the screws to the average American!

[ohio herd]

What ever happened to the affordable care plan? ha ha instead of helping it has hurt people- who would have thought!

http://time.com/4282054/obamacare-taxes/

Oh well I am sure the Dems don't care

 

[Herd Fever]

Me and my family are in a hell of a lot better position in 2016 than we was in 2008 or even 2012

 

[Marine03]

I do the CDHP, it's been a better plan for us than the PPO plan was.

 

[raleighherdfan]

The rubber meets the road in the coming years as people begin to actually "access" the care they need from healthcare providers.

People are narrowly focused on their insurance payments, co pays, etc now. The tsunami of changes are coming in healthcare facilities, docs, services, products, devices, drugs that no one is really considering at this point. Hospitals treating patients in communities without a strong commercial payer, cash paying base will find it hard to financially survive. Its driving enormous consolidation now across systems.

These smaller community systems are actively seeking to be bought or managed because they are going bankrupt. The ACA along with other CMS reforms are accelerating this occurrence.

 

[i am herdman]

Me and my family are in a hell of a lot better position in 2016 than we was in 2008 or even 2012

Well most people your age are upwardly mobile. Good job, Fever!

 

[herdfan429]

The rubber meets the road in the coming years as people begin to actually "access" the care they need from healthcare providers.

People are narrowly focused on their insurance payments, co pays, etc now. The tsunami of changes are coming in healthcare facilities, docs, services, products, devices, drugs that no one is really considering at this point. Hospitals treating patients in communities without a strong commercial payer, cash paying base will find it hard to financially survive. Its driving enormous consolidation now across systems.

These smaller community systems are actively seeking to be bought or managed because they are going bankrupt. The ACA along with other CMS reforms are accelerating this occurrence.

Not to mention that next year will be a bad year for premiums in the employer market. The Cadillac tax and others kick in.

 

[i am herdman]

It is amazing how some folks want burger flippers to make more money but want doctors to make less.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Not to mention that next year will be a bad year for premiums in the employer market. The Cadillac tax and others kick in.

Agreed. 2017 is a big year with massive changes across the healthcare environment that most have little idea are taking place. Of course this was conveniently built in this way.

 

[herdfan429]

Agreed. 2017 is a big year with massive changes across the healthcare environment that most have little idea are taking place. Of course this was conveniently built in this way.

I've said all along obamacare was intentionally made to be a boondoggle to say see look we tried all we can do now is single payer

 

[dherd]

What ever happened to the affordable care plan? ha ha instead of helping it has hurt people- who would have thought!

http://time.com/4282054/obamacare-taxes/

Oh well I am sure the Dems don't care

typical propaganda put out by our american oligarchs to fool the weak minded like this poster
who are too dim witted to understand who is really fvcking them over.

LETS SEE WHO THIS AUTHOR AND HIS GROUP ARE AND WHO PAYS THEM TO
PUT OUT THIS TWISTED PROPAGANDA.

Nathan Nascimento is a senior policy advisor at Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce.

SO WHO IS "FREEDOM PARTNERS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE?

One of the groups pushing for repealing or rolling back the certificate of need law is Americans for Prosperity, a recipient of Koch money.

One of the studies that's been cited in support comes from the Mercatus Center at George Mason University in Virginia. The center says it has received major financial help from Charles Koch and a related foundation at key points in its history.

And among the items appearing in the news media calling for CON reform this year is an opinion piece by Nathan Nascimento, a senior policy adviser for Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce. Politico described that group as "the Koch brothers' secret bank" in 2013.

DONT BELIEVE ME OR WANT TO KNOW MORE - HERE-

http://www.c-span.org/video/?404805-1/book-discussion-dark-money

 

[dherd]

new name, announced last week, of George Mason University’s law school — the Antonin Scalia School of Law
The university, outside Washington, announced the original renaming on Thursday after receiving a combined gift of $30 million financed by the Charles Koch Foundation. The gift, the largest in the university’s history, was contingent on changing the law school’s name to honor Justice Scalia, who died in February.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/u...acronym.html&eventName=Watching-article-click

 

[herdfan429]

new name, announced last week, of George Mason University’s law school — the Antonin Scalia School of Law
The university, outside Washington, announced the original renaming on Thursday after receiving a combined gift of $30 million financed by the Charles Koch Foundation. The gift, the largest in the university’s history, was contingent on changing the law school’s name to honor Justice Scalia, who died in February.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us/politics/antonin-scalia-george-mason-law-school-acronym.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=3&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us/politics/antonin-scalia-george-mason-law-school-acronym.html&eventName=Watching-article-click

And your point is?

 

[raleighherdfan]

It is evident DTard has no fvcking clue what a "Certificate of Need" (CON) law is or how it is used.

Certainly has no idea why all political groups and or affiliations (including liberals) are working to reform its outdated status.

Move on moron. Even your copy and pastes are pointless to the discussion.

 

[ohio herd]

typical propaganda put out by our american oligarchs to fool the weak minded like this poster
who are too dim witted to understand who is really fvcking them over.

LETS SEE WHO THIS AUTHOR AND HIS GROUP ARE AND WHO PAYS THEM TO
PUT OUT THIS TWISTED PROPAGANDA.

Nathan Nascimento is a senior policy advisor at Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce.

SO WHO IS "FREEDOM PARTNERS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE?

One of the groups pushing for repealing or rolling back the certificate of need law is Americans for Prosperity, a recipient of Koch money.

One of the studies that's been cited in support comes from the Mercatus Center at George Mason University in Virginia. The center says it has received major financial help from Charles Koch and a related foundation at key points in its history.

And among the items appearing in the news media calling for CON reform this year is an opinion piece by Nathan Nascimento, a senior policy adviser for Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce. Politico described that group as "the Koch brothers' secret bank" in 2013.

DONT BELIEVE ME OR WANT TO KNOW MORE - HERE-

http://www.c-span.org/video/?404805-1/book-discussion-dark-money

Talk about a weak mind what a clown you are. Why don't you take a minute and attack the facts in the Time Mag article? Last I looked Time was no conservative publication. Typical Lib, attack the author or the Magazine to distract from the truth.See if you can find another cut and paste article to add.

 

[extragreen]

Talk about a weak mind what a clown you are. Why don't you take a minute and attack the facts in the Time Mag article? Last I looked Time was no conservative publication. Typical Lib, attack the author or the Magazine to distract from the truth.See if you can find another cut and paste article to add.

That article is so full of deceit, it's difficult to pick a place to start attacking the facts.

 

[ThunderCat98]

Well, take your time and try. We'll wait.

 

[extragreen]

Well, take your time and try. We'll wait.

Waiting is over.

"It serves as a stark reminder of all the ways this law continues to harm American families and businesses, six years after it was signed." Exacty what are all the ways?

"supposed to increase coverage, but in reality they’re limiting career opportunities" How?

"health insurance costs—have actually risen faster since the law was signed" credible link?

"While the Affordable Care Act has failed to bend down the cost curve of health insurance" credible link?

 

[raleighherdfan]

Waiting is over.

"It serves as a stark reminder of all the ways this law continues to harm American families and businesses, six years after it was signed." Exacty what are all the ways?

"supposed to increase coverage, but in reality they’re limiting career opportunities" How?

"health insurance costs—have actually risen faster since the law was signed" credible link?

"While the Affordable Care Act has failed to bend down the cost curve of health insurance" credible link?

When will Greed actually provide a link for anything? His "out" is always the "credible" excuse. I've actually provided healthcare publication links in threads past explaining detailed information. Either ignores them or changes the topic. He's a coward.

How many articles need to be posted about the premium increases compared to past years? Again, the article gives information on how overall employment is being impacted, both part time and full time. He plays stupid well.