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Obamacare SAVES $2.6 trillion on healthcare

"When CMS originally made those projections, they really thought the slowdown in health-care spending [growth] was mostly due to the recession, and afterward we'd see a return to the higher rates of spending growth — and that didn't really happen," said Katherine Hempstead, a senior adviser at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which funded the new study by the Urban Institute.

Good deal. By Obama overseeing the worst recovery from a recession in history, he has potentially held down health care spending rates as people decide between medication and food.
 
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here's the top rated comment on this article from "Being Liberal":

"Talk to your friends, listen to your neighbors and co workers. Are their premiums going down? Are our premiums staying the same? NO! In every case (unless you live in the projects and are on welfare) they are on the increase and not by$20.00 per month, but increases of 20 - 30% .
I don't need the news media, Obama or people on FB telling me I'm better off with ACA. I can look at my paycheck and tell you I'm not.

If you believe the government has out performed by $2.6 trillion on anything, then you are delusional.

As with all Socialist programs, it sucks the life out of the middle class.

Support any candidate that will repeal the Unaffordable Care Act."
 
"The companies are now expected to seek substantial price increases."

WOW! insurance companies seeking substantial price increases -
that is something we've never seen before isn't it!
wake up an smell the benefits cons. healthcare spending is way down
since obamacare - it is responsible for a significant portion in the decrease
in national debt under obama/hills/dems. you guys cant even admit obama
killed bin laden - why should anyone expect you to acknowledge the stunning
success of obamacare. when is the last time you heard a con pol rail about
the horrors of obamacare - not since it has been implemented and everyone
sees how great it is at reducing overall healthcare costs in america.
 
Obama claimed that obamacare was going to reduce everyone's premiums by 2500/year. Have your premiums gone down at all?
 
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It didnt. George W. Bush increased the debt by 5 trillion, Curly might reach 10 trillion by the time hes done.

Actually GW took a $6T surplus and put this country in a $5T deficit. That's a loss of $11T. That's far worse than anything about is perceived of doing
 
Actually GW took a $6T surplus and put this country in a $5T deficit. That's a loss of $11T. That's far worse than anything about is perceived of doing
Wrong. The National Dept was just over 5 trillion when W. Took office and was just over 10 trillion when he left office. The last time there was a dip (slight) in the national debt was during the Truman/Eisenhower years. Just looking at the curve it appears that the debt really started to shoot up since about 1975ish and been precipitous since then.
national_debt_chart2014.jpg
 
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Go figure the self proclaimed accountant doesn't understand the difference between a "deficit" and (national) "debt".

Moron
 
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I'm still waiting for the premium reduction of $2,500 Obama promised. Guess that was another lie.

ANOTHER REPUBLICAN BIG LIE FROM THE REPUBLICAN BIG LIE MACHINE.
I WOULD BET YOU CANNOT QUOTE ME THAT FROM A REPUTABLE NEWSPAPER
EITHER THE NYTIME WASHINGTON POST OR LA TIMES.

I WOULD BET YOU BUT YOUR WELFARE CHECK PROBABLY HASNT COME YET
AND WHEN IT DOES YOU'LL NEED IT TO BUY ORANGE DRIVER.

SHOW ME THE QUOTE
 
Go figure the self proclaimed accountant doesn't understand the difference between a "deficit" and (national) "debt".

Moron

THAT SUNLIGHT THEY'RE PIPING INTO THAT HOLLAR YOU LIVE IN ARRIVE YET?
HOW'S LIFE IN RALEIGH COUNTY - WHEN YOU GONNA BE ALPHA SIG HEIL AGAIN..
 
Wrong. The National Dept was just over 5 trillion when W. Took office and was just over 10 trillion when he left office. The last time there was a dip (slight) in the national debt was during the Truman/Eisenhower years. Just looking at the curve it appears that the debt really started to shoot up since about 1975ish and been precipitous since then.
national_debt_chart2014.jpg

OH YES HE WAS GREAT! NOW PUT UP A CHART SHOWING WHAT THE ECONOMY DID
DURING THIS SAME PERIOD. AND WHILE YOUR AT IT PUT UP A GRAPH SHOWING
THE TREND IN THE NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE CLINTON YEARS THROUGH THE
BUSH YEARS AND THE BUSH DEPRESSION.
WHEN YOU PUT OUT A HALF TRUTH IT IS THE SAME AS A LIE.

BUT WE ALL UNDERSTAND - LIES AND IGNORANT PEOPLE WILLING TO BELIEVE
AND REPEAT THEM ARE THE ONLY THINGS KEEPING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AFLOAT.
 
ANOTHER REPUBLICAN BIG LIE FROM THE REPUBLICAN BIG LIE MACHINE.
I WOULD BET YOU CANNOT QUOTE ME THAT FROM A REPUTABLE NEWSPAPER
EITHER THE NYTIME WASHINGTON POST OR LA TIMES.

I WOULD BET YOU BUT YOUR WELFARE CHECK PROBABLY HASNT COME YET
AND WHEN IT DOES YOU'LL NEED IT TO BUY ORANGE DRIVER.

SHOW ME THE QUOTE
How about from the presidents own mouth

 
do you understand that "as much as" does not mean everyone.
many peoples insurance fell more than $2500- those with serious
or chronic illness.

you have to understand that when the president speaks - he is not
speaking to you as an individual. he never said that your premiums
would be cut by 2500. "as much as" mean some people at the margins.
would be cut that much. and they have been.

learn to listen carefully - it will improve your disposition and probably your
well being.
 
No dherd, he switched his language from "up to" to "an average of" to "typical family" to "every family's premium".

Watch the entire video above and pay attention to how he changes the narrative to build popular support. He lied to get it done. The oft repeated lie was "if you already have healthcare, we are going to work with your employer to reduced the average family's premium by $2,500." My wife is a school teacher and we have our insurance through the school system. Her health insurance premiums just went up at the end of the school year by $1,900 annually, and there was no initial reduction with ObamaCare. It is the largest annual increase in the history of the school district.
 
THAT SUNLIGHT THEY'RE PIPING INTO THAT HOLLAR YOU LIVE IN ARRIVE YET?
HOW'S LIFE IN RALEIGH COUNTY - WHEN YOU GONNA BE ALPHA SIG HEIL AGAIN..

Not surprised. You don't appear to be geographically competent either. Last time I checked Raleigh NC wasn't located in Raleigh Co.
 
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Does it have anything to do with the state paying less ?

From what was reported in WV last year, yes/kinda. We're in an environment were Obamacare is either really good or really bad. It's because WV has such a high elderly population. And fat and disabled and so on. The younger middle class workers are getting hammered so we can support the above. Mix that with a low population, college grads leaving the state, loss of jobs and its just doesn't work here. Not for the average worker I mean. Officials have tried to start regional areas, instead of just state, so parts of KY, PA, VA and OH can "split" the cost of WV residents instead of just WV residents funding 100%.
 
ANOTHER REPUBLICAN BIG LIE FROM THE REPUBLICAN BIG LIE MACHINE.
I WOULD BET YOU CANNOT QUOTE ME THAT FROM A REPUTABLE NEWSPAPER
EITHER THE NYTIME WASHINGTON POST OR LA TIMES.

I WOULD BET YOU BUT YOUR WELFARE CHECK PROBABLY HASNT COME YET
AND WHEN IT DOES YOU'LL NEED IT TO BUY ORANGE DRIVER.

SHOW ME THE QUOTE

Not sure why you're typing in all caps, maybe it's what Xenu demands. And why would I need to go through two newspapers you've handpicked when I just check Obama's own statements? Politifact, a source lefties love to quote, notes that an economist who advised Obama during the 2008 campaign & who helped calculate that figure, says Obama made "occasional misstatements" (man, Obama does that quite a bit) that tied the $2,500 reduction to premiums. Politifact checked the Project Vote Smart database for instances where Obama said premiums (and only premiums) would go down by $2,500 & he has a record of making, ahem, occasional misstatements. .

CNN Democratic Debate
"Point number two is that I am actually not interested in just capping premiums. I want to lower premiums by about an average of $2,500 per family, per year, because people right now cannot afford it. I can't tell you how many folks I meet who have premiums that are so high that essentially they don't have health insurance. They have house insurance." - Obama

Healthcare Town Hall
"In an Obama administration, we'll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year." - Obama

Presidential Debate
"And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year." - Obama

Democratic Debate
"Let me just finish, because this is an important policy point. We put in a catastrophic reinsurance plan that will help reduce those premiums for families by an average of about $2,500 per year." - Obama

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Does it have anything to do with the state paying less ?

If you were responding to my post, the answer is no. She teaches in Ohio, not WV, and the school system is picking up the same percentage they previously have. She got a decent raise for a teacher this year, but her take home pay is now less than in 2015.
 
Obama care hasn't done anything for me. The only reason why my coverage went down is because I switched it from Medical Mutual to my wife employer Ohio Health.
 
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