Overall C-USA Basketball Attendance

[LetsGoHerd1106]

Per Chuck this morning...

“The Thundering Herd’s average attendance in all games — home, away and neutral court — was 5,116 during the 2019-20 regular season.

Marshall averaged 201 more spectators per game than Old Dominion, which finished second at 4,915. UTEP averaged 4,441 for third, followed by Western Kentucky in fourth with 4,268 and Louisiana Tech in fifth with 3,875.

Nobody was happier about this first than sixth-year Marshall head coach Danny D’Antoni. He has been on a mission to lead C-USA in attendance ever since taking the job in 2014.”

 

[goherd73]

In home game attendance we came in second to ODU 5943 to 5633. We had 16 home games they had 14. Regular season champ North Texas came in 7th averaging 3243.

http://conferenceusa.com/stats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2019

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

That’s darn good for a .500 team. The fans support this school and program well.

 

[The Real SamC]

So Marshall, in fairly tiny Huntington, West Virginia, having an enrollment of less than 14K, puts out a mediocre basketball effort, with no real “name” teams, and is at or near the top in attendance.

Of course. This is just another piece of evidence of how LITTLE basketball matters to most of CUSA.

FIU, 58K students, and FAU, 30K students, sharing a metro area of 6.2 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,015 and 1,053 per game, and even those figures are probably fudged on the generous side.

UTSA, 31K students, metro area of 2.9 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,086 per game (claimed).

North Texas, with a WINNING TEAM, 38K students and a metro region of 6.8 MILLION people, drew 3,243. UAB, with a long basketball tradition, 22K students, and 1.1 MILLION people, and a WINNING team, drew 2,712 per game.

It goes on like that. Even the overall attendance champions, ODU, beat MU by less than 300 per game. And draws from a region of 1.8 MILLION people.

MU, with a mediocre losing team, drew 5,633 per game. From just 13K students and a metro area of less than 355K, which includes parts of KY and OH where the Wildcats or the B******s, or the Bobcats, are the local team. Even if you include the Charleston region, where, sad to say USPAM is tops, you are still under 500K people.

That is how big basketball is here, contrasted to two-thirds of CUSA, where basketball is NOTHING. Where no effort is put into the sport, and no one cares.

Which is why we are underperformning.

 

[Herd1972]

So Marshall, in fairly tiny Huntington, West Virginia, having an enrollment of less than 14K, puts out a mediocre basketball effort, with no real “name” teams, and is at or near the top in attendance.

Of course. This is just another piece of evidence of how LITTLE basketball matters to most of CUSA.

FIU, 58K students, and FAU, 30K students, sharing a metro area of 6.2 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,015 and 1,053 per game, and even those figures are probably fudged on the generous side.

UTSA, 31K students, metro area of 2.9 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,086 per game (claimed).

North Texas, with a WINNING TEAM, 38K students and a metro region of 6.8 MILLION people, drew 3,243. UAB, with a long basketball tradition, 22K students, and 1.1 MILLION people, and a WINNING team, drew 2,712 per game.

It goes on like that. Even the overall attendance champions, ODU, beat MU by less than 300 per game. And draws from a region of 1.8 MILLION people.

MU, with a mediocre losing team, drew 5,633 per game. From just 13K students and a metro area of less than 355K, which includes parts of KY and OH where the Wildcats or the B******s, or the Bobcats, are the local team. Even if you include the Charleston region, where, sad to say USPAM is tops, you are still under 500K people.

That is how big basketball is here, contrasted to two-thirds of CUSA, where basketball is NOTHING. Where no effort is put into the sport, and no one cares.

Which is why we are underperformning.

I am trying to follow your logic Sam. The last sentence in your post indicate we are underperforming, implying basketball is big here, for 2/3's of Conference USA, basketball is nothing and no one cares. Please help me understand your reasoning.

 

[LetsGoHerd1106]

I am trying to follow your logic Sam. The last sentence in your post indicate we are underperforming, implying basketball is big here, for 2/3's of Conference USA, basketball is nothing and no one cares. Please help me understand your reasoning.

I really hate to even try to apply logic to an illogical person but I think he’s trying to compliment the Huntington area for its support of Herd basketball but at the same time slight basketball’s results? His trolling is mediocre and underperforming at best.

 

[The Real SamC]

Please help me understand your reasoning.

Just look at the numbers. The level of fan, and student, interest in MU basketball, is quite solid. Not so of lots of other teams, in this built for football group. Do you honestly think that if football did not exist, MU would be in a league that stretched from El Paso to Miami to Virginia Beach? No, of course not, MU would be in a league of like minded basketball schools, all within a few hours drive. CUSA was built for football, made up of schools trying to be on one level in football. When created, CUSA 3.0 brought along the other sports, including basketball, which were, AND STILL ARE, at far different levels.

When you are in a city of 6M people and have over 50K students, and draw less than the Cabell Midland girls team, basketball does not matter.

Which is why MU is in the one-third of CUSA where basketball DOES MATTER. Which is why we should dominate it.

 

[thunderingon]

Take it easy on Sam, he goes to great lengths to discredit even the least little bit of positive news about the basketball program. I think it means that for the most part people believe in and enjoy the product that Dan puts on the floor. Even in a .500 season, the product is still fun to watch, hard working and competitive. And there is optimism for the future. We've all seen the Henderson Center look like a ghost town when the fans give up hope. We are 6 years into Dan's tenure and people are still coming and excited. That's a good thing..unless you have an agenda against him and the program (ahem). We have no control over the rest of the conference, their budgets, their coaches, their fans, etc.. I would love to be in a more highly regarded regional basketball focused conference, but that's not what we have right now, so all we can do is the best we can do.

 

[Herd1972]

I really hate to even try to apply logic to an illogical person but I think he’s trying to compliment the Huntington area for its support of Herd basketball but at the same time slight basketball’s results? His trolling is mediocre and underperforming at best.

I think I got the fan support but could not understand the reasoning to our underperforming.
Thank you for trying to explain.

 

[CarolinaHerdzilla]

Just look at the numbers. The level of fan, and student, interest in MU basketball, is quite solid. Not so of lots of other teams, in this built for football group. Do you honestly think that if football did not exist, MU would be in a league that stretched from El Paso to Miami to Virginia Beach? No, of course not, MU would be in a league of like minded basketball schools, all within a few hours drive. CUSA was built for football, made up of schools trying to be on one level in football. When created, CUSA 3.0 brought along the other sports, including basketball, which were, AND STILL ARE, at far different levels.

When you are in a city of 6M people and have over 50K students, and draw less than the Cabell Midland girls team, basketball does not matter.

Which is why MU is in the one-third of CUSA where basketball DOES MATTER. Which is why we should dominate it.

SAD SAM----Since you kicking Danny in his balls & his successful building of Marshall hoops program that averaged less than 1800 fans in the stands before he was selected....games played on week nights (work the next day)

2019 CUSA Football Season (ave fans)

Marshall: 24,851
So Miss 24,598
UTSA 24,239
La Tech 21,869
UTEP 21,659
ODU 20,021
Rice 19,777
N Texas 19,699

Samantha (Sam)...pretty weak attendance for schools that have seating capacities MUCH GREATER than they are getting fans to attend. NOTE: this is not butts in the seats. Last year about 1000 fans attended FIU @ The HERD.

POINT being...our basketball program is FAR OVER achieving in attendance than our football program. Danny has grown the attendance to average about 6,000 in a 9,048 seat Henderson Arena.

Football on the other hand is losing attendance & Big Green members and season ticket holders annually. I recall a time when Marshall would take over 7,000 on the road for a football game. The only city The Herd had about one thousand fans in attendance was in the rain at UNC--Concord.

I have been told by MU tickets holders....¨Ẅe do not want the basketball team to be successful...it takes $$$ from our football program.¨

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte

 

[herdalicious]

Of course Marshall sports draw. Name the next biggest thing going on in the area, and how far away it is from Huntington.

 

[RhinoD]

Of course Marshall sports draw. Name the next biggest thing going on in the area, and how far away it is from Huntington.

Bingo... There are hundreds of ways to spend a Thursday night in Miami, El Paso, San Antonio, etc... Within an hour drive of Huntington on a Thursday in January? – Tumbleweeds

Also, Sam's continually flawed logic that teams who care the most (which is of course impossible to quantify) should dominate is disproved by his own argument... Marshall leads CUSA in basketball attendance = Marshall cares more and should dominate... Marshall leads the league in football attendance (2018-19) = Marshall should just be happy to be DI.

 

[The Real SamC]

SAD SAM----Since you kicking Danny in his balls & his successful building of Marshall hoops program that averaged less than 1800 fans in the stands before he was selected

Why lie about things that are easily looked up? The NCAA keeps these records back for ages.

19 - 6,065
18 - 5,485
17 - 5,815
16 - 5,473
15 - 5,107
14 - 4,713
13 - 5,598
12 - 6,150
11 - 5,524
10 - 5,481
09 - 4,872
08 - 5.042
07 - 3,544
06 - 4,050
05 - 4,005
04 - 4,434
03 - 3,845
02 - 4,863
01 - 5.938
00 - 4,960
99 - 5,638
98 - 4,681
97 - 5,038
96 - 5,547
95 - 6,513
94 - 4.063
93 - 4,931
92 - 4,675
91 - 6,724
90 - 6,623
89 - 5,941
88 - 8,493
87 - 8,755
86 - 8,916
85 - 8,540
84 - 8,799
83 - 6,244
82 - 7,845
81 - 6,375

SOURCE:

NCAA.ORG

Thus, you have been caught just making things up. MU has NEVER drawn “1800 fans”. No where near. You should apologize to me and to the board.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Apologies are not mandatory on here, nor should they be. And anyone who thinks they are owed a personal apology has too high an opinion of themselves. I did apologize to you over the bet, then it became obvious you just made your annual contribution and tried to claim credit for having paid the bookie (BG) after the fact. You could put this latest doubt about your integrity to bed - just provide the other proof of your "normal" contribution. Otherwise, you never intended to honor your word. I hereby retract my apology! I'm sure you will understand....

 

[W-S HerdFan]

……..would be interesting to see the trend in football attendance...…. I did some figuring, and DD has held the attendance figure from the 6 previous seasons. With all of the distractions and choices being available to today's fans - That's doing pretty well imo. The Gullickson transformation to a dedicated practice facility will be more meaningful to bball, since it will open up individual work on the multiple baskets available, plus not having to share with other sports.

 

[ARandomHerdFan]

Why lie about things that are easily looked up?

 

[muthed]

Per Chuck this morning...

“The Thundering Herd’s average attendance in all games — home, away and neutral court — was 5,116 during the 2019-20 regular season.

Marshall averaged 201 more spectators per game than Old Dominion, which finished second at 4,915. UTEP averaged 4,441 for third, followed by Western Kentucky in fourth with 4,268 and Louisiana Tech in fifth with 3,875.

Nobody was happier about this first than sixth-year Marshall head coach Danny D’Antoni. He has been on a mission to lead C-USA in attendance ever since taking the job in 2014.”

Just over 400 at UTSA didn't help the average any.

 

[muthed]

So Marshall, in fairly tiny Huntington, West Virginia, having an enrollment of less than 14K, puts out a mediocre basketball effort, with no real “name” teams, and is at or near the top in attendance.

Of course. This is just another piece of evidence of how LITTLE basketball matters to most of CUSA.

FIU, 58K students, and FAU, 30K students, sharing a metro area of 6.2 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,015 and 1,053 per game, and even those figures are probably fudged on the generous side.

UTSA, 31K students, metro area of 2.9 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,086 per game (claimed).

North Texas, with a WINNING TEAM, 38K students and a metro region of 6.8 MILLION people, drew 3,243. UAB, with a long basketball tradition, 22K students, and 1.1 MILLION people, and a WINNING team, drew 2,712 per game.

It goes on like that. Even the overall attendance champions, ODU, beat MU by less than 300 per game. And draws from a region of 1.8 MILLION people.

MU, with a mediocre losing team, drew 5,633 per game. From just 13K students and a metro area of less than 355K, which includes parts of KY and OH where the Wildcats or the B******s, or the Bobcats, are the local team. Even if you include the Charleston region, where, sad to say USPAM is tops, you are still under 500K people.

That is how big basketball is here, contrasted to two-thirds of CUSA, where basketball is NOTHING. Where no effort is put into the sport, and no one cares.

Which is why we are underperformning.

Come on Sam, quit trying to blow smoke up everybody's you know what. 16-15 (at present) is not a losing team.

 

[bbneutralfan]

W-S you mention “the transformation of Gullickson” Hall. Uh and when are we building the new baseball stadium?

 

[WyomingHerdFan]

So Marshall, in fairly tiny Huntington, West Virginia, having an enrollment of less than 14K, puts out a mediocre basketball effort, with no real “name” teams, and is at or near the top in attendance.


Of course. This is just another piece of evidence of how LITTLE basketball matters to most of CUSA.

FIU, 58K students, and FAU, 30K students, sharing a metro area of 6.2 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,015 and 1,053 per game, and even those figures are probably fudged on the generous side.

UTSA, 31K students, metro area of 2.9 MILLION people, managed to draw 1,086 per game (claimed).

North Texas, with a WINNING TEAM, 38K students and a metro region of 6.8 MILLION people, drew 3,243. UAB, with a long basketball tradition, 22K students, and 1.1 MILLION people, and a WINNING team, drew 2,712 per game.

It goes on like that. Even the overall attendance champions, ODU, beat MU by less than 300 per game. And draws from a region of 1.8 MILLION people.

MU, with a mediocre losing team, drew 5,633 per game. From just 13K students and a metro area of less than 355K, which includes parts of KY and OH where the Wildcats or the B******s, or the Bobcats, are the local team. Even if you include the Charleston region, where, sad to say USPAM is tops, you are still under 500K people.

That is how big basketball is here, contrasted to two-thirds of CUSA, where basketball is NOTHING. Where no effort is put into the sport, and no one cares.

Which is why we are underperformning.

 

[Herdmeister]

W-S you mention “the transformation of Gullickson” Hall. Uh and when are we building the new baseball stadium?

sadly, I believe that both are a few years off....

 

[W-S HerdFan]

sadly, I believe that both are a few years off....

I am foolishly believing what I’m reading! I thought the revamped b-ball facility was a go and in process? And apparently bseball facility not going to be ready a year from now? What’s the hold-up?

 

[GreenDuke]

I am foolishly believing what I’m reading! I thought the revamped b-ball facility was a go and in process? And apparently bseball facility not going to be ready a year from now? What’s the hold-up?

There is one answer for every question like yours.
I think you know that answer.

 

[The Real SamC]

What’s the hold-up?

The state sets a maximum for any project it bids. If all of the bidders are over, then it just takes the deal off the table and rebids it, after it has set for at least 9 months. The state can make changes (cuts) to the plans or just try again and hope for better. The low bid was $28M, the state maximum was $20M.

This means that this year’s construction cycle has been missed, so it is 2022 at the earliest.

Personally, I doubt this project will ever be built.

 

[Herdmeister]

I am foolishly believing what I’m reading! I thought the revamped b-ball facility was a go and in process? And apparently bseball facility not going to be ready a year from now? What’s the hold-up?

Danny has told us that he always suspected that the basketball project would never get started until baseball was completed.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Danny has told us that he always suspected that the basketball project would never get started until baseball was completed.

…..further cementing our label as the gang who couldn't shoot straight!! Oh brother....

 

[CarolinaHerdzilla]

Why lie about things that are easily looked up? The NCAA keeps these records back for ages.

19 - 6,065
18 - 5,485
17 - 5,815
16 - 5,473
15 - 5,107
14 - 4,713
13 - 5,598
12 - 6,150
11 - 5,524
10 - 5,481
09 - 4,872
08 - 5.042
07 - 3,544
06 - 4,050
05 - 4,005
04 - 4,434
03 - 3,845
02 - 4,863
01 - 5.938
00 - 4,960
99 - 5,638
98 - 4,681
97 - 5,038
96 - 5,547
95 - 6,513
94 - 4.063
93 - 4,931
92 - 4,675
91 - 6,724
90 - 6,623
89 - 5,941
88 - 8,493
87 - 8,755
86 - 8,916
85 - 8,540
84 - 8,799
83 - 6,244
82 - 7,845
81 - 6,375

SOURCE:

NCAA.ORG

Thus, you have been caught just making things up. MU has NEVER drawn “1800 fans”. No where near. You should apologize to me and to the board.

 

[CarolinaHerdzilla]

TO QUOTE RIFLE...¨Sam, you are a MORON & IDIOT.¨

Susan Sam...this proves you have never stepped foot in Henderson Arena in many years. I like Tom Herron, but, he could not get the fans to attend games his last two years! This is why Hamrick let him go!

I am talking about asses in the seats....not tickets sold by corporate business & banks in Huntington that inflates the numbers!

I attended games during Herronś days in Huntington. Donnie Jones had good attendance.....it faltered under Tom.

How come you did not comment about the 1,000 [or less] fans sitting in The Joan for The Herd hosting FIU after the UNC--Charlotte debacle.......

Good Try Susan Sam,,,but you flunked again......

HerdZilla22

 

[The Real SamC]

So MU, under, what 10 ADs and university presidents has consistently been lying by a factor of 5 times about how many people attend the basketball games? For 40 years? Got it.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Come on Sam, quit trying to blow smoke up everybody's you know what. 16-15 (at present) is not a losing team.

Sorta like a certain posters definition of a very successful football season being 6-6 and a bowl bid. LOL!

 

[alphasig1053]

Why lie about things that are easily looked up? The NCAA keeps these records back for ages.

19 - 6,065
18 - 5,485
17 - 5,815
16 - 5,473
15 - 5,107
14 - 4,713
13 - 5,598
12 - 6,150
11 - 5,524
10 - 5,481
09 - 4,872
08 - 5.042
07 - 3,544
06 - 4,050
05 - 4,005
04 - 4,434
03 - 3,845
02 - 4,863
01 - 5.938
00 - 4,960
99 - 5,638
98 - 4,681
97 - 5,038
96 - 5,547
95 - 6,513
94 - 4.063
93 - 4,931
92 - 4,675
91 - 6,724
90 - 6,623
89 - 5,941
88 - 8,493
87 - 8,755
86 - 8,916
85 - 8,540
84 - 8,799
83 - 6,244
82 - 7,845
81 - 6,375

SOURCE:

NCAA.ORG

Thus, you have been caught just making things up. MU has NEVER drawn “1800 fans”. No where near. You should apologize to me and to the board.

Now you know how we feel reading your posts.