Planned Parenthood is Done
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The assumption is, of course, they are on the same plain of evil.
Comparing IVF clinics to the practice of cutting through the face of a still living born-alive infant to get to the brain for proper harvest is not rational.
It is akin to justifying the invasion of Iraq by pointing out you are ok with jaywalking.
(And for the record I have spoken against the dumping of embryos for the need of IVF)
Comparing IVF clinics to the practice of cutting through the face of a still living born-alive infant to get to the brain for proper harvest is not rational.
It is akin to justifying the invasion of Iraq by pointing out you are ok with jaywalking.
(And for the record I have spoken against the dumping of embryos for the need of IVF)
The reality is technology has advanced already where babies born at 24 weeks are surviving and thriving.
With the speed of current medical procedures it won't be long until the baby born in this video will be able to live outside the womb.
So at the end of the day why should that 20 week old child not have the right to life? Just because the mother and father do not want it?
With the speed of current medical procedures it won't be long until the baby born in this video will be able to live outside the womb.
So at the end of the day why should that 20 week old child not have the right to life? Just because the mother and father do not want it?
No, the assumption is that before all of this recent stuff involving planned parenthood, your side would feel that fertility clinics were on the same level as planned parenthood. Yet, planned parenthood (more accurately, abortion clinics) took your wrath, but fertility clinics didn't.
Why? This alleged info about planned parenthood wasn't common knowledge back then.
You're manipulating words with this.
According to the article, it was an unborn baby. It isn't different from other late-term abortions.
Abortions, especially late-term, are not pleasant things. But, your quite manipulates what her story alleges.
I wonder what the chance is of ever being happy if you're born into this situation.
Yeah, you can prosper. You can achieve. You can experience great things. But how old do you get before the bitterness wears off? The older I get, the more I'm beginning to daydream about pissing on my parents' graves.
It's just a weird life. People saying you're doing well. Paying you money to do good work. But your own flesh and blood thinks you're toilet film. I know it's because they're idiots, but instead of all this joy, I just want to go down there and cuss them out.
This stuff that is coming out now about PP was already known in the circles I run in.
I was aware of it 12 years ago, just did not have any video thereof. These are not new practices.
At its moral base, the destruction of an infant post-twenty weeks and the dumping of an unused IVF embryo in a sink are the "same", sure. In the same way a man killing another man in a bar fight and John Wayne Gacy are both murderers, but we recognize one is more heinous than the other.
I was aware of it 12 years ago, just did not have any video thereof. These are not new practices.
At its moral base, the destruction of an infant post-twenty weeks and the dumping of an unused IVF embryo in a sink are the "same", sure. In the same way a man killing another man in a bar fight and John Wayne Gacy are both murderers, but we recognize one is more heinous than the other.
Regarding fertility clinics compared with abortion, your god doesn't recognize one as more heinous than the other though, correct? If so, you shouldn't let your personal feelings get involved with this since you are basing your overall moral compass on his word.
So, I ask again, why is planned parenthood receiving the overwhelming wrath from radical christians yet fertility clinics seem to receive a free pass? They are one in the same in your god's eyes, are they not, since they are taking part in the same sin?
Why does it matter if a fetus is 21 weeks old when it is aborted (and done in a way that will save parts of it to advance mankind in stopping disease) or if it is hours old? Conception has already occurred in both which is the sin both are violating.
It'll keep happening no matter what. Guess there are utopians on both sides of the political aisle. Yeah, it would be nice if everybody wanted their babies and didn't decide to kill them. It's just not reality though.
This stuff has happened for a long time. Everyone who has done it had to think that it might be killing. They still did it anyway. And they'll continue to do so.
This stuff has happened for a long time. Everyone who has done it had to think that it might be killing. They still did it anyway. And they'll continue to do so.
Not sure you have to be a "radical Christian" to find this a little disturbing. The true dumbed down millions have been made to believe over the years that abortions are nothing more than disposing of a mass clump of unformed mutating cells. That's what makes these stories/videos so damning IMO. "Beating hearts"..."removal of intact brains"...."limbs". These completely fly in the face of years of intentional misinformation and left wing propaganda that insinuates..."fetuses are not real living things."
The mantra must change now for PP to survive. The message supporting abortion will now need to change too. "All in the name of research for cures" will be the new marketing message, along with a (quiet) name/brand change for PP. I find it hard to imagine that libs would be happy about big evil medical corporations buying dissected baby parts in order to profit in selling therapies...but as long as PP can make a little money too in the name of "women's health"......its all good. Ultimately, abortion is just a sacrament to the liberal religion and a producer of raw materials for biotech industry.
The mantra must change now for PP to survive. The message supporting abortion will now need to change too. "All in the name of research for cures" will be the new marketing message, along with a (quiet) name/brand change for PP. I find it hard to imagine that libs would be happy about big evil medical corporations buying dissected baby parts in order to profit in selling therapies...but as long as PP can make a little money too in the name of "women's health"......its all good. Ultimately, abortion is just a sacrament to the liberal religion and a producer of raw materials for biotech industry.
The phrase "radical christians" referred to those who believe the IVF process, namely the waste of a fertilized egg, is a sin.
I suppose if the state is willing to foot the bill for the extensive medical care they would need at the beginning and continuing care for the rest of their lives (in many cases), and if we didn't put up road blocks for women who want to abort before the embryo is viable I could agree with this.
We're not at the point where a 20 week pregnancy is going to end in a viable baby though. We might get there but the current record is 21 weeks 5 days last I checked.
You're really a socialist? If Bernie Sanders wins, I can't wait to get to eat my supper at someone else's house. We'll all own 'em all and share 'em all. I can go to the chandelier palaces and they can come to my food crumb littered coffin.
We'll spend the evenings sharing my journal entries from back in 2008. Lot of blood and guts in there. I think these baby parters would love it. We could have story time in front of a jar of liver. I'm not as hardcore as them so I'll just buy a cup of catfish bait, but it'll be a swell ole time.
We'll spend the evenings sharing my journal entries from back in 2008. Lot of blood and guts in there. I think these baby parters would love it. We could have story time in front of a jar of liver. I'm not as hardcore as them so I'll just buy a cup of catfish bait, but it'll be a swell ole time.
I don't see what viable has to do with it. Simply because a baby can't survive outside the mother should be irrelevant. The vast majority of non adults can't survive in this world on their own.
Well, if it's viable you can remove it from the mother and it lives. If it isn't then when you remove it from the mother it doesn't. That'd be why it's relevant.
I know that, but it should be irrelevant regarding whether or not you can kill them.
Wonder what Bernie Sanders thinks about it. From what I've read, he's a liberal on abortion. Seems odd considering you'd want more people to help on our giant collective farm we're going to be living on.
With all of the gay agenda getting accepted in America and now this information about Planned Parenthood, apocalypse should happen any day now, right?
I mean, if he wiped out entire cities just for some rampant gay anal sex, the planned parenthood fiasco on top of the country accepting homosexuality should really bring about the day of reckoning for everyone, shouldn't it?
Any of you guys want to make a bet that it won't happen this year? How about five years from now? Hell, I'm willing to bet twenty years from now on it.
You believers should take that bet.
I mean, if he wiped out entire cities just for some rampant gay anal sex, the planned parenthood fiasco on top of the country accepting homosexuality should really bring about the day of reckoning for everyone, shouldn't it?
Any of you guys want to make a bet that it won't happen this year? How about five years from now? Hell, I'm willing to bet twenty years from now on it.
You believers should take that bet.
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If a mother wants to abort her child, then let her do it. who gives a shit and that shouldn't be any of our decision who should and shouldn't have an abortion
So if I kill you tomorrow, no big deal? Your spirit will find a new body. There's no difference in murdering babies and grown men.
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