Rahm Emanuel is clueless on managing a city.
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Do you think you could do any better? I could fix the crime issue there in a month, but my methods would not be acceptable to either party. Mass graves and burning entire blocks of the city to the ground tend to have poor optics.
It's not like all of Chicago is some dystopian nightmare. It's a few neighborhoods...can we name which ones and not be playing a race card?
It's not like all of Chicago is some dystopian nightmare. It's a few neighborhoods...can we name which ones and not be playing a race card?
I never said that I could fix the problems. Besides it is not my job. The person in charge is one who needs to fix it, or move aside.
I don't care if it is only one section of town, or a few, the shootings need to stop.
He is over his head. JMO
The narrative about Chicago is entirely inaccurate.
Chicago’s murder rate is far, far below Cleveland’s (and even lower than many other cities), yet nobody talks about the issue in Cleveland. Hell, Chicago’s murder rate is the same as Cincinnati’s.
Simply because of tighter gun control regulations and Democratic leadership, morons like dogboy want to talk about Chicago.
Chicago’s murder rate is far, far below Cleveland’s (and even lower than many other cities), yet nobody talks about the issue in Cleveland. Hell, Chicago’s murder rate is the same as Cincinnati’s.
Simply because of tighter gun control regulations and Democratic leadership, morons like dogboy want to talk about Chicago.
There is absolutely nothing the mayor alone can do or order, legally, that would fix this problem. Hard-core solutions would take martial law anyway, and he can't order that. He cannot waive a wand and change a broken subculture.
The 2nd Amendment does not hold the answer either. Almost any non-felon can get a CCW in Kentucky, yet certain neighborhoods of Louisville are riddled with crime and bullets.
Perhaps that’s because the people you vote for say that stricter gun control will prevent situations like this, when nothing could be further from the truth. They know it, and you know it.
But hey...NRA...right?
Kelsey Grammar did a good job as mayor of Chicago.
If done across the board, it would.
Would you like to see studies showing how and where the weapons came from that are used in many of these Chicago murders? A high percentage of them were illegally obtained from states with far lower gun regulations. If done across the board (meaning all states), they wouldn't be nearly as easy to obtain for these Chicago culprits.
If you drain the Great Lakes that provide water to Niagara Falls, the Falls won't immediately stop. However, over time, the water will alleviate down to a trickle. Likewise, tighter gun regulations across the board won't immediately stop the violence in Chicago since there is a plethora of weapons. But, like the water in Niagara Falls, it will eventually reduce down to a trickle.
This isn't rocket science, though my analogy was pretty fvcking good.
Simple fact of the matter is Chicago is no where close to the top of murder rates per capita in the US.
Sorry, us law-abiding Hoosiers are not giving up our 2nd Amendment rights just because certain Chicago neighborhoods are shitholes.
Indiana guns stores follow all federal firearms laws....criminals do not.
Here's an idea: 20 years for straw purchases. 20 years for illegal possession of a firearm. Mandatory and no parole.
Off the top of my head, in terms of major cities: New Orleans, Cleveland, St. Louis, Memphis, Baltimore, Kansas City, Detroit, and maybe Cincinnati.
Why do you think "The First 48" is always in Memphis, Kansas City, and St. Louis? Easy pickins' down in these Republican areas.
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Congratulations! You have just supported gun reform!
As I have said on here for years, gun reform doesn't equate to taking away your 2nd Amendment "rights." It simply means common sense gun regulations that don't allow the access of guns to be far easier than the ability to legally drive a car.
Memphis mayor is a democrat
Kansas City mayor is a democrat and is his name is Sly
St Louis mayor is a democrat
oh come on yaggs you know good well those cities and the areas in question are anything but GOP areas. St Louis is run by a demorat. The city has not had a Republican since 1949. Kansas City has an Indy. They have only had one Republican in charge since 1930. Memphis has a Democrat as Mayor. Try again that was really bad.
Your post was pretty specific about purchasing regulations, as in Chicago vs surrounding states. Chicago does not have gun stores, period (although surrounding communities do). I'll pass on Indiana joining Chicago on that one. I'll also pass in requiring the state police to give me permission to buy or possess a gun, as is done in Illinois. I don't mind State Police approval for CCWs.
I am for criminal justice reform. My thoughts on gun crimes mirror my criminal justice thoughts in general: severe punishment for crimes of violence, no prison for many non-violent crimes/crimes of personal choice with no harm to others.
So yeah, I think this time we are talking apples and oranges.
what laws are we going to repeal in order to free up room in the prisons? don't get me wrong, i like the idea.
i got it . . . there's way too many blacks in the prisons in proportion to whites, let's set all of them free. you know, not because they broke the law, but because they're black and the proportion of blacks to other races in our prisons are completely lopsided and unfair.
sort of like this whole black lives matter movement. let's raise holy hell about a white cop shooting a black person committing a crime. let's not worry so much about the much higher death rate that comes from black on black murders. better not look at that one, doesn't fit our agenda. and, while we're not looking at that, let's not look at any instances where blacks have murdered white cops, that really doesn't fit our agenda, either.
Those things would be relevant if the mayors were setting their state's gun laws, but that's not the case.
All three of those are solid red states, where Republicans set the gun laws.
Let's get to the point.Those three cities are full of black young men who are killing each other.
LOL...Ok. Criminals commit crimes. They don’t care about laws. Make it as difficult as you want to obtain a gun, and there will always be a black market waiting. The whole premise of the gun control debate is stupid.
It was the complete opposite of being specific. My comment could have included stealing weapons, getting them illegally in exchange for drugs, strawman purchases, or simply buying them yourself legally across state borders.
When you stop making things so easy to obtain, it eventually works.
If we can make people take multiple tests, wait a certain time, pay fees, have a database, prove their identity, have a background check, etc. to simply be able to drive a car, then we can do the same thing for those wanting to have a gun.
And how is Chicago any different from that claim? It isn't, if that's the lane you want to go down.
Now, your point about asking which cities had higher murder rates than Chicago was for what? It was asked because your narrative about Chicago is simply misleading when considering that many other cities in numerous Republican states with gun-friendly laws have higher murder rates.
Drug possession, non-violent drug sales, many financial crimes (prison for insider trading, wtf?). State crimes, for WV let's not send people to prison for third offense prostitution, third offense shoplifting, third offense DUI (these are thing where people need some sort of rehabilitation, not prison)...there are plenty more.
Violent crime, lock them up and throw away the key. Rape, murder (it's just a shot away....), child molesters, armed robbers, these kinds of pricks should not be getting out for at least 20-30 years, if not life. I am tired of reading about real thugs and perverts getting five years for ruining or taking lives.
I don't know where your race rant came from...did you attend a cross burning this weekend? Do they still have those in Barbour County?
Yes, there will always be a black market. Just ask Australia. After they basically banned guns (not entirely, but mostly), a small black market appeared. With increased penalties for those breaking gun laws, the black market is very, very small.
Really, take this suggestion and look at some facts- take a look at the murder rate of countries who have extremely tight gun laws with similar cultures to the U.S.
Look at those countries most similar to the U.S. in terms of culture, economics, etc . . . just brainstorm them: Canada, England, France, Spain, Germany, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, Norway, Poland, Denmark, Finland, Belgium . . . I am sure there are a few more that I have skipped.
Look at how many of those have gun regulations far tighter than the U.S. (that is pretty quick to answer). Look at how drastic the gun regulations are between those countries and the U.S. Then, look at the murder rate with all of those countries compared to the U.S.
I'm serious - put your political ideology aside and look at how drastic the numbers are between all of our fellow countries and us. Even though our economy is better than most of those countries, why is our murder rate so far higher? There is only one major relevant difference between those countries and the U.S. - it is the ease of access and amount of guns the U.S. allows.
Tests? Why should I have to take a test to use a gun on my own property? I can understand a test for a CCW.
I'll wait until the background check is complete, thank you. What wait time is there to buy and use a car? Last time I bought a car it took ten minutes to do the paperwork.
I paid a fee for my CCW, and I pay taxes to support the ATF.
Giant database, check. Could it be better? Sure.
Show ID? I already do that when I commercially purchase a gun. Requiring so for private sales would be impossible to enforce, but I am for putting the screws to anyone who private sells to a felon, so yeah you might want to check an ID and hit the internet before private selling your guns.
Background check? Yep, gotta do those already.
They are 90% white too. If our racial make up was the same what would our numbers be?
it's the total murder numbers that have folks wanting to talk about Chicago.
listen, all we need is someone that had a decent score on the LSAT but didn't go to law school to run Chicago...that would fix it.
