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Rational Discussion On the Border and Global Immigration

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It’s becoming clearer that migration from the chaos and poverty in the Global South to the stable and affluent West is going to be the issue of our time.

This will outlast Brexit, Trump etc.
and will take place against a backdrop of an expansionist China & Russia.

Within the past two weeks the leader of Italy refused to accept a boatload of African migrants, Germany’s Merkel has been rebuffed by her own coalition on migration and now Trump is defiantly carrying out tough border policies.

 
Good luck with a rational discussion on this subject.Funny how the left forgot this issue has been going on since 2013/14 and not a peep till now.
 
Also why the military is getting ready to ramp back up to fight "big" wars much like the Cold War era.
 
Look...the reality is that we simply can’t keep allowing people to flood across our borders. One side gets that, but historically hasn’t done much about it. The other side acts as if they don’t respect our national sovereignty at all.

If it takes a guy like Donald Trump to be a dick about it, but the issue gets fixed long-term, then I’m ok with that. All the faux outrage in the world won’t change the fact that adults are illegally crossing our borders, knowing that they will get separated from their children when they do. That’s on the parents, not Trump.
 
It's not just the US. People from shithole countries with their shithole customs and shithole ideas are invading the west. The Asian countries have it figured out: they tell them to go **** themselves. Trump is doing an admirable job trying to save the US taxpayer, but the democrats need more dependent voters, and poor brown people from shithole countries who will be 100% reliant on taxpayer handouts will be straight ticket democrats for life.
 
We have spent decades trying to make those countries better by sending billions and billions in food, medicine, cash, technology, etc. The simple fact is that certain cultures have not evolved societally which is a recipe for disaster when your population increases. So these people want to go places that have evolved, but they want to bring their backward azz culture with them. A country has to be ignorant to import those wanting to remain entrenched in a failed culture.

We are a country of immigrants, but of ones who sought a better life and were more than willing to assimilate.
 
It's pretty simple, really. Figure out how much unskilled labor you need and temporarily let them in from Mexico/Latin America. Tons of the temp farm immigrants return to Mexico for the winter growing season, they are not much of an issue. The smart ones can have a path to citizenship. Figure out how much skilled labor we need and let them in with a path to citizenship. And then if anyone fires a skilled, qualified American and replaces them with a cheaper foreigner, hang them...or fine the ever-loving shit out of them. No more firing American IT guys and replacing them with cheap immigrants.

And then...this is important...you have to make our own lazy unskilled classes work.
 
It's pretty simple, really. Figure out how much unskilled labor you need and temporarily let them in from Mexico/Latin America. Tons of the temp farm immigrants return to Mexico for the winter growing season, they are not much of an issue. The smart ones can have a path to citizenship. Figure out how much skilled labor we need and let them in with a path to citizenship. And then if anyone fires a skilled, qualified American and replaces them with a cheaper foreigner, hang them...or fine the ever-loving shit out of them. No more firing American IT guys and replacing them with cheap immigrants.

And then...this is important...you have to make our own lazy unskilled classes work.
Dang Raoul I agree with you. Controlled imm is something we need. This is a tough situation going on at the boarder and the hysteria around it isn't helping.
 
The boarder .

This is a stunning boarder:

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Ohhhh, you mean "border." Why are Republicans so lacking in basic intelligence?
 
he’s an angry loser like HRC!

@mlblack16. , is this your guy? If so, can you please talk some sense into him? Look at how many times he is posting now. Look at how few people interact with him even with all of his attempts and obsessive ass-kissing of others by constantly liking their posts.

Shit, look at this recent post of his: "He's an angry loser like HRC!"

It's embarrassingly bad and ruins the board. Do you claim this guy?
 
keep watching loser! i’m killing time at happy hour. you keep writing your novels and supporting the losing side!

i wish fever would come back so you could stalk someone else. how’s the project coming?
 
keep watching loser! i’m killing time at happy hour. you keep writing your novels and supporting the losing side!

i wish fever would come back so you could stalk someone else. how’s the project coming?

This just is more proof of how dumb you are. Why would you "kill time" at happy hour? Killing time is when you're trying to get through something you don't want to do. That doesn't fit for those at happy hour.

Why the sudden surge in your posting? Why can't you just go back to obsessively liking posts like before? It made you look like a moron, but now that you post, it solidifies just how dumb you are.
 
honestly sitting in bar in DC.

why your obsession to watch likes and interactions? there is something wrong with you. you really care about likes or interaction on the pullman board of herdnation? pathetic
 
Ok back on topic, Competing bills are in the senate. Ted Cruz's vs Diane Feinstein.

Cruz bill aims to keep families together in detention centers while doubling the number of immigration judges to try to free up the log jam and expedite hearings.

Feinsteins bill makes it illegal for DHS DOJ and HHS to separate families at all except in a few certain cases, ie fear of abuse or trafficking. They arent held in detention centers and are free to remain in the country until the time of their hearing.
 
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@mlblack16. , is this your guy? If so, can you please talk some sense into him? Look at how many times he is posting now. Look at how few people interact with him even with all of his attempts and obsessive ass-kissing of others by constantly liking their posts.

Shit, look at this recent post of his: "He's an angry loser like HRC!"

It's embarrassingly bad and ruins the board. Do you claim this guy?

LOL, I don't personally know him.
 
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