This could be either a good thing or a bad thing.Huntington and Marshall was exactly how he imagined it to be.
This could be either a good thing or a bad thing.
This could be either a good thing or a bad thing.
Hal Greer is about to undergo a huge change and facelift. Its been in the works for a few years and now is set to begin this summer. Hal Greer Corridor project, set to cost around $10 million total.Yep, especially if they come into Huntington straight down Hal Greer to the campus and then right back out. Don't want them driving around too much, especially in those many areas of dilapidated and abandoned houses, buildings, weed and trash strewn lots, and the various and sundry business transactions (drugs) going on fairly openly throughout much of the area!
They also added a parking garage and condo style dorms? for Pharmacy/med students. Not sure what they actually are, new housing for sure.Hal Greer Blvd looks good with the Med School and Pharmacy School open. The addition of new lighting and road improvements set for 2022 will make this area even more attractive.
Gary makes Kandahar look like Utopia so I don’t think that’s a good **comparison.Yeah, no other town or city has bad neighborhoods or blighted housing. I guess he could go to Austin or Nashaville, two cities that have an infestation of homeless people. Or ATL where you can't walk one block downtown without getting hit up by a homeless person/druggie for money.
Gary, IN makes Huntington look like Utopia. Yeah, we have our warts, no question; but if a person travels extensively, there are tons of places in worse shape. jmho.
Some of these kids come from very rural southern towns and getting away is their goal.
I always brought visitors into town via 5th Street and through the park. All were impressed how nice the city was. Just saying.
Geezer - that is a great line!I know many cities and towns across the country are having problems with loss of population, city blight, and drugs, but I always felt Huntington got a bad rap.
Lots of positive things about the town. Nice parks, Marshall, decent location, tree lined streets. I remember when I was getting ready to leave for college, my dad, who was a Marshall grad, told me if I could count to thirty and knew the first five presidents, I could find about anyplace in Huntington.
Yeah, no other town or city has bad neighborhoods or blighted housing. I guess he could go to Austin or Nashville, two cities that have an infestation of homeless people
The question facing MU is will the pharmacy program survive.Hal Greer Blvd looks good with the Med School and Pharmacy School open. The addition of new lighting and road improvements set for 2022 will make this area even more attractive.
I agree. But not really comparing, more to the point that all cities have issues, regardless of size and location. I was never a fan of Philly.Cities of 700K+ people are expected to have unsheltered residents based on the large population. Cities of 45K aren't expected to have much of an unsheltered person issue for the same reason.
And Austin and Nashville are two of the very top coolest and fastest growing major cities in the country. Probably not a good idea to try and raise Huntington's perception by comparing them to two of the best major cities in the country. Cleveland and Philadelphia would be better alternatives.
A city's population affects its homeless population, but not in the way you'd think. The majority of homeless don't actually hail from the cities they live in, but have migrated in from areas where they don't have access to the resources that allow for someone to live that life. The more resources a city offers to the homeless population, the more homeless that city will accrue, even if its a smaller city.Cities of 700K+ people are expected to have unsheltered residents based on the large population. Cities of 45K aren't expected to have much of an unsheltered person issue for the same reason.
I hope so it is a nice add to the school and from what I have heard is a solid program. What is the issues?The question facing MU is will the pharmacy program survive.
Why wouldn’t it?The question facing MU is will the pharmacy program survive.
Why wouldn’t it?
I’d say a lot of those pharmacy grads go out of state. Just like I would assume the WVU pharmacy grads go back to PA and NJ.My guess is the fact that there are too many pharmacists in the state and they can’t find jobs. Which is saying a lot in one of the most pill -poppinest per capita states in the country.
Normally I loathe WVUs opposition to anything Marshall. They would probably oppose any program we tried to start. But in this case, while they were probably right for the wrong reasons, WVU ultimately was correct. West Virginia didn’t need another pharmacy school. (After UC and WVU.)
Cleveland gets a bad rap. That downtown area is actually pretty cool. You just need to make sure you depart the city before dark though.Cleveland
Why wouldn't MU grads in ALL fields head elsewhere? In the mid 50s and 60s Huntington's pop. was in the 80,000 to 85,000 range. MU became a University in early 60s, enrollment around 6,000, Today, Huntington's pop. around mid 40,000s and still falling; MU enrollment, and annual # of grads, have at least doubled or so. No way vast majority of MU yearly grads are going to find good, satisfactory employment in a dying economy and decaying, declining city!! For years Cabell County was second most populous in the State. Now number 4, and no evidence that County's population is increasing or will do so in the immediate future! MU's toughest tasks are to keep enough of those ever scattering grads interested in, and supporting, the University even though they are no long in geographic proximity. Other task, also tough, is to gear up and support its recruiting efforts for new students, made tougher by the declining pool of local and in state high school grads. Meaning Marshall recruiters have to cast an ever widening net for new students, meaning more competition, and necessitating increasing the $$$$$ and other assets in its recruiting efforts.I’d say a lot of those pharmacy grads go out of state. Just like I would assume the WVU pharmacy grads go back to PA and NJ.
Lord knows I would head south somewhere.
Yeah, that’s why I posted that. One poster insinuated the pharmacy program may be in jeopardy due to no jobs being available in WV. Thought that was odd reasoning. Hell I plan on heading south after I retire.Why wouldn't MU grads in ALL fields head elsewhere? In the mid 50s and 60s Huntington's pop. was in the 80,000 to 85,000 range. MU became a University in early 60s, enrollment around 6,000, Today, Huntington's pop. around mid 40,000s and still falling; MU enrollment, and annual # of grads, have at least doubled or so. No way vast majority of MU yearly grads are going to find good, satisfactory employment in a dying economy and decaying, declining city!! For years Cabell County was second most populous in the State. Now number 4, and no evidence that County's population is increasing or will do so in the immediate future! MU's toughest tasks are to keep enough of those ever scattering grads interested in, and supporting, the University even though they are no long in geographic proximity. Other task, also tough, is to gear up and support its recruiting efforts for new students, made tougher by the declining pool of local and in state high school grads. Meaning Marshall recruiters have to cast an ever widening net for new students, meaning more competition, and necessitating increasing the $$$$$ and other assets in its recruiting efforts.
You can probably find them at the pharmacy.With almost every berg and ville having some sort of drugstore, hard to believe a pharmacist couldn’t find a job. Don’t believe you can buy a pair of socks in my little town, but we have a pharmacy.
Our recruiters need to get out of Cabell County. Look to the northern, southern, and eastern part of the state.Why wouldn't MU grads in ALL fields head elsewhere? In the mid 50s and 60s Huntington's pop. was in the 80,000 to 85,000 range. MU became a University in early 60s, enrollment around 6,000, Today, Huntington's pop. around mid 40,000s and still falling; MU enrollment, and annual # of grads, have at least doubled or so. No way vast majority of MU yearly grads are going to find good, satisfactory employment in a dying economy and decaying, declining city!! For years Cabell County was second most populous in the State. Now number 4, and no evidence that County's population is increasing or will do so in the immediate future! MU's toughest tasks are to keep enough of those ever scattering grads interested in, and supporting, the University even though they are no long in geographic proximity. Other task, also tough, is to gear up and support its recruiting efforts for new students, made tougher by the declining pool of local and in state high school grads. Meaning Marshall recruiters have to cast an ever widening net for new students, meaning more competition, and necessitating increasing the $$$$$ and other assets in its recruiting efforts.
As said, most of the grads are from out of state. I knew one who graduated from USF.My guess is the fact that there are too many pharmacists in the state and they can’t find jobs. Which is saying a lot in one of the most pill -poppinest per capita states in the country.
Normally I loathe WVUs opposition to anything Marshall. They would probably oppose any program we tried to start. But in this case, while they were probably right for the wrong reasons, WVU ultimately was correct. West Virginia didn’t need another pharmacy school. (After UC and WVU.)
It’s just an educated guess I made to answer the question someone asked about why the school might not make it.As said, most of the grads are from out of state. I knew one who graduated from USF.
Not sure why you believe the school won't make it if they're having large numbers of out of state tuition coming in.
Those from within WV are going to other states...most likely for the reason you stated.
lets not forget back in day larger cities had free bus rides to here because of what you just said.A city's population affects its homeless population, but not in the way you'd think. The majority of homeless don't actually hail from the cities they live in, but have migrated in from areas where they don't have access to the resources that allow for someone to live that life. The more resources a city offers to the homeless population, the more homeless that city will accrue, even if its a smaller city.
Huntington has everything those folks need - plenty of abandoned structures to camp out in, a network of churches and charitable organizations to feed and clothe, and plenty of access to drugs. Add in the VA hospital and its like Las Vegas for vagrants. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that Huntington (like most of post-industrial middle America) suffers from an outsized homeless population.
Your issue is with the city and economy of the state, which we all have recognized isn't well run at all, not the school.It’s just an educated guess I made to answer the question someone asked about why the school might not make it.
The job market in WV is over saturated with pharmacists right now based on discussions I’ve had with many people in the industry.
It probably doesn’t help enrollment when job prospects locally are so grim for such an expensive degree.
Unless we’re ok with training professionals and sending them out of state , which to me seems counter to what we need right now.
Im by no means in the know in any of this, just the way it looks to me as someone who loves Marshall and knows many people in that industry.