I'll just leave this here:Originally posted by big_country90:
I haven't read that thread since I posted in it. You're still wrong. You're allowed to spin during the dribble up, then take two steps. That's what he did. Deal with it.
Now, back to rifle.
Originally posted by big_country90:
I haven't read that thread since I posted in it. You're still wrong. You're allowed to spin during the dribble up, then take two steps. That's what he did. Deal with it.
Now, back to rifle.
Traveling/walking is not determined by the number of steps (although you will here EVERY variety of number attached: 1.5 steps, 2 steps, 3 steps allowed after picking up the dribble -- simply not true), it is determined by the pivot foot. Once the pivot foot leaves the floor, if the player has not passed or shot the ball before the pivot foot returns to the floor, then that is a walk/travel.Originally posted by big_country90:
I haven't read that thread since I posted in it. You're still wrong. You're allowed to spin during the dribble up, then take two steps. That's what he did. Deal with it.
Now, back to rifle.
Next to block/charge, walk/travel is the most controversial and mis-used call in basketball.Originally posted by -Olen-:
Traveling/walking is not determined by the number of steps (although you will here EVERY variety of number attached: 1.5 steps, 2 steps, 3 steps allowed after picking up the dribble -- simply not true), it is determined by the pivot foot. Once the pivot foot leaves the floor, if the player has not passed or shot the ball before the pivot foot returns to the floor, then that is a walk/travel.Originally posted by big_country90:
I haven't read that thread since I posted in it. You're still wrong. You're allowed to spin during the dribble up, then take two steps. That's what he did. Deal with it.
Now, back to rifle.
Here is a link to a 16 second clip of the play -- slow it down to 0.25 of the speed to get a better view:
* Staten's last dribble is with his left foot on the floor -- technically, when the right foot follows in-step, that makes the left foot the pivot foot in this instance;
* when the left foot touches just outside the free-throw lane (at the very least), that is a return of the pivot-foot to the floor without a pass or shot, which is widely known as a walk or travel
Even being charitable for the game-speed, and what the official is more likely to determine (labeling Staten's right-foot the pivot-foot) it is still a walk/travel, as Staten physically pivots on the right foot, and then returns the right foot to the floor immediately -- another walk or travel. The "left-and-right" steps before the lay-up are essentially extra steps beyond the travel, but the NCAA doesn't have a violation for excessive traveling (or Super Walking) as it were.
Technically? He walked, period. Hell, he took four steps.Originally posted by TheLondonBlitz:
Did Staten walk, technically? Yea, I think so, by the book.
However, that call is rarely ever made in that situation, especially in the middle of a spin move, especially on the last play of the game, especially at home, especially on the best PG in the Big12.
WVU wins!
Originally posted by ThunderCat98:
Herdman, you must not have seen kentucky play much. Booker and likes can both hit the mid- range jumper consistently.
GK, I agree. If a team isn't getting pressured on the inbound pass, they step across the line every single time. It's almost like it isn't even a rule anymore.
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