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Those of you who think the government, at any level, was part of the trump assassination should show your face in this thread. When posting, please name which agencies you feel are possibly or definitely part of this:
 
Define “part of the assassination?”

USSS - incredibly inept at absolute best. It took major pressure to get “sloped roof” director to step down. We also got that tweet from their comms guy that they’re walking back now too regarding denying extra security.

Local cops seemed inept too - I suspect the “too hot” to be on the roof whistle blower story is correct. However they seem extremely hamstrung by limited comms to USSR.

FBI - I do not think I would like them to investigate this alone. I’d prefer an independent faction, maybe ex black water team members. I know we disagree on their infallibility and you think I’m crazy but so be it.

It’s still early on, would like to see the actual investigation findings . With that said, every new video that comes out has the same feeling - How the F can you see all this and let former POTUS be on that stage and/or todays video - how can snipers not see the guy running around in the roof 3 mins before shots fired?
 
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Define “part of the assassination?”
Were any government agencies either a part of the planning, execution, or purposely turned a blind-eye to the attempt due to them wanting the assassination to be successful.
 
Were any government agencies either a part of the planning, execution, or purposely turned a blind-eye to the attempt due to them wanting the assassination to be successful.
Yet to be determined.

Have you seen the formal investigation report yet?

All we have are videos and for-show “testimony” in congress.

If none of the above is true then it’s the worst execution of a no fail agency I’ve seen in my lifetime. Which is possible (?probable), but I’m not fully ruling out negligence. Do I think likely? No. But if no planning/intent, the levels of just pure non maleficence ineptitude is just massive, so your mind starts to wonder.
 
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It is hard to imagine someone being that incompetent at that level. Some of the mistakes are mind boggling.
It’s not a hard fvcking question to answer. Like always, no matter what the end result is, you’ll say “I told you so.”

Pick a fvcking side, coward. Was a government agency/employees actively a part of the attempt or purposely turn a blind-eye?
 
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By the way they tried to scrub the sniper's email. There is going to be dirty laundry come out on this.

Hang on.
 
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So none of you deplorables who floated these constant conspiracy theories is willing to say that a government agency was behind the assassination and/or purposely neglected their duty as a way for trump to be killed.

Fvcking cowards.
 
So none of you deplorables who floated these constant conspiracy theories is willing to say that a government agency was behind the assassination and/or purposely neglected their duty as a way for trump to be killed.

Fvcking cowards.
Saying it’s in the Overton window for discussion doesn’t mean we think it for sure happened that way.

Hey, remember when lab leak was conspiracy and we couldn’t talk about it without being labeled by the experts as whack jobs?

Well it’s better to talk about it and leave options open so we can figure shit out.
 
Local cops seemed inept too - I suspect the “too hot” to be on the roof whistle blower story is correct. However they seem extremely hamstrung by limited comms to USSR.
Well there you go, the local cops are in on it with the Soviets 🤣

My understanding, and I could be wrong, is they had an official line of comms to the Secret Service, but in typical local cop stupidity many of them decided to rely on text messages. Use your fvcking radios, this is important shit. This ain't no COD chat. Using texts opens you up to accusations of hiding shit in day to day policing, the radio is an official record.

Not that the Secret Service is any better, anyone remember them using texting on January 6, and the texts disappearing?

And yeah, I believe the hot roof story too. Everyone just wanted the easy OT. This ain't easy, this is important. You want easy, work the high school football game.
 
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Well there you go, the local cops are in on it with the Soviets 🤣

My understanding, and I could be wrong, is they had an official line of comms to the Secret Service, but in typical local cop stupidity many of them decided to rely on text messages. Use your fvcking radios, this is important shit. This ain't no COD chat. Using texts opens you up to accusations of hiding shit in day to day policing, the radio is an official record.

Not that the Secret Service is any better, anyone remember them using texting on January 6, and the texts disappearing?

And yeah, I believe the hot roof story too. Everyone just wanted the easy OT. This ain't easy, this is important. You want easy, work the high school football game.
Definitely the communists
 
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Saying it’s in the Overton window for discussion doesn’t mean we think it for sure happened that way.

Hey, remember when lab leak was conspiracy and we couldn’t talk about it without being labeled by the experts as whack jobs?

Well it’s better to talk about it and leave options open so we can figure shit out.

That's all lovely, but why are none of you stepping up and confirming that yes, you believe this was set up by a government agency/employees? It is extremely harmful, especially with the level of intelligence and education of deplorables, to float conspiracy theories that you don't even believe.

So again, is anybody willing to make that claim or are we just throwing shit against the wall regardless of how absurd it is?
 
Those of you who think the government, at any level, was part of the trump assassination should show your face in this thread. When posting, please name which agencies you feel are possibly or definitely part of this:

Well...The government, at the highest levels, concocted, funded and spread a Russia Collusion charge against Trump all in an attempt to keep him out of the White House. Most bleaters were all in.

All a proven hoax.

Would it be hard to imagine that it didn't care enough to be on high alert or complacent with Trump's security all while trying and failing to put him in prison?

Part of the plan? Nah. Inept? You bet your ass. Had that been homObama or Pedo-Joe in the exact same scenario, no way would have the guy gotten close enough to do anything. homObama nor Pedo-Joe would have made it to the stage, let alone a shot being taken.
 
That's all lovely, but why are none of you stepping up and confirming that yes, you believe this was set up by a government agency/employees? It is extremely harmful, especially with the level of intelligence and education of deplorables, to float conspiracy theories that you don't even believe.

So again, is anybody willing to make that claim or are we just throwing shit against the wall regardless of how absurd it is?
Was Trump actually shot, rifle?
 
So none of you deplorables who floated these constant conspiracy theories is willing to say that a government agency was behind the assassination and/or purposely neglected their duty as a way for trump to be killed.

Fvcking cowards.
What are you looking for here? Is there evidence a specific government agency or deep state actors tried to off him? Not that we've been made aware of. Were there enough glaring failures at multiple levels to raise suspicions? Absolutely. Have the political class (both parties), media, and career bureaucrats demonized Trump and a large segment of this country to perpetuate their own hold on power, including censoring the dissemination of unfiltered news and information? Definitely. Is it beyond the realm of all possibility that the CIA would assassinate an American citizen/political figure if they thought he was an "existential threat" to the country - as Trump has been couched? Not on your life.
 
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What are you looking for here? Is there evidence a specific government agency or deep state actors tried to off him? Not that we've been made aware of. Were there enough glaring failures at multiple levels to raise suspicions? Absolutely. Have the political class (both parties), media, and career bureaucrats demonized Trump and a large segment of this country to perpetuate their own hold on power, including censoring the dissemination of unfiltered news and information? Definitely. Is it beyond the realm of all possibility that the CIA would assassinate an American citizen/political figure if they thought he was an "existential threat" to the country - as Trump has been couched? Not on your life.
I bet if I wore a Trump shirt or hat I would be confronted. Guarantee it.
 
I bet if I wore a Trump shirt or hat I would be confronted. Guarantee it.
You would if you were by me. I make it a point to say "trump is a moron" to anybody I see wearing one. Sometimes, I'll add in " . . . and so are you" if the guy isn't with children.

What are you looking for here? Is there evidence a specific government agency or deep state actors tried to off him? Not that we've been made aware of. Were there enough glaring failures at multiple levels to raise suspicions? Absolutely. Have the political class (both parties), media, and career bureaucrats demonized Trump and a large segment of this country to perpetuate their own hold on power, including censoring the dissemination of unfiltered news and information? Definitely. Is it beyond the realm of all possibility that the CIA would assassinate an American citizen/political figure if they thought he was an "existential threat" to the country - as Trump has been couched? Not on your life.
I'm looking to see which moron actually believes the bullshit they throw out as a conspiracy theory. Again, it does far more harm when looking at the intelligence level of the average deplorable. Reference the videos in my Trumpers thread for help.

So nobody is willing to step up and say they believe the conspiracy theory?
 
this is rich. this, from a supporter of the side that believed the Russia collusion conspiracy and the recent assassination was staged by Trump conspiracy is attempting to get those from the other side to admit govt involvement in the assassination conspiracy.

nominated: most pathetically hypocritical thread of 2024.
 
I believe there is and has been an effort to suppress facts and details from the secret service and FBI. Unfortunately for them, there have been plenty of videos to show what actually happened. That leads me to question why. Why would both of these agencies without information, misrepresent the fact and play dumb when questioned?

Is it to protect their ineptness or something more cynical. Either way it’s alarming.
 
You would if you were by me. I make it a point to say "trump is a moron" to anybody I see wearing one. Sometimes, I'll add in " . . . and so are you" if the guy isn't with children.


I'm looking to see which moron actually believes the bullshit they throw out as a conspiracy theory. Again, it does far more harm when looking at the intelligence level of the average deplorable. Reference the videos in my Trumpers thread for help.

So nobody is willing to step up and say they believe the conspiracy theory?
Tolerance. Doesn’t the left preach tolerance? Tolerate killing babies….check
Tolerate drag show story time…check
Tolerate a trump shirt…hold up!
 
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You would if you were by me. I make it a point to say "trump is a moron" to anybody I see wearing one. Sometimes, I'll add in " . . . and so are you" if the guy isn't with children.

Of course you would, bleater. Wouldn't expect less from you. Showing hatred, spreading hatred and exposing your intolerance of others and their opinions are what Democrats' minions do.
 
You would if you were by me. I make it a point to say "trump is a moron" to anybody I see wearing one. Sometimes, I'll add in " . . . and so are you" if the guy isn't with children.


I'm looking to see which moron actually believes the bullshit they throw out as a conspiracy theory. Again, it does far more harm when looking at the intelligence level of the average deplorable. Reference the videos in my Trumpers thread for help.

So nobody is willing to step up and say they believe the conspiracy theory?
Exactly, because you are acting like a miserable liberal.
 
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The govt, SS, etc. are covering some things up. For sure. Have no doubt.
 
Tolerance. Doesn’t the left preach tolerance?
I also support the first amendment and ethical obligations, which means standing up for what is wrong. Supporting a bigot is wrong, so I make sure to practice my first amendment right.

Tolerate killing babies….check
Tolerate drag show story time…check
Tolerate a trump shirt…hold up!
I have no problem with abortion. I have no problem with drag queens reading books to children while showing them that not all people look a certain way and still should be treated with respect.
 
I believe there is and has been an effort to suppress facts and details from the secret service and FBI. Unfortunately for them, there have been plenty of videos to show what actually happened. That leads me to question why. Why would both of these agencies without information, misrepresent the fact and play dumb when questioned?

Is it to protect their ineptness or something more cynical. Either way it’s alarming.
The govt, SS, etc. are covering some things up. For sure. Have no doubt.

You morons have such short memories.

Where were your conspiracy theories when this happened?

A guy was pulled over by police for reckless driving. He tried fleeing. When he was captured, inside of his car were a sawed off shotgun, a map of DC with the White House circled, about six more guns, a ton of ammunition, and a tomahawk. Secret Service interviewed him.

A month later, the same guy was at the fence of the White House. He was accosted when he was seen with a tomahawk at the fence. His car again was searched and found a bunch of other concerning things. Even though Secret Service were aware of his previous month's incident including the circle around the White House on his map and other illegal acts, they interviewed him again after he was actually at the White House with weapons and determined he wasn't a threat again.

Just a month later, the same guy climbed the White House fence and ran to the doors of the White House and ran to the main entrance (North Portico). He shockingly wasn't shot nor stopped. The main door to the White House, at night, was unlocked. But there was surely a ton of security there, right? Nope. There was a single female inside of the main entrance to the White House even after this guy climbed the fence and ran through the yard. The alarm system had been turned off. The guy was able to overpower the lone Secret Service person (a woman) and make it further inside. The only reason he was stopped was pure luck; an off-duty Secret Service member was walking through the White House on his way home and saw the guy who didn't seem normal.

The guy was carrying a knife. His car was searched for the third time in two months, and this time it had nearly 1000 rounds of ammunition, a machete, another few tomahawks, etc.

So let me play the game you deplorables do:

This crazed man was let off the hook even though he clearly had something planned at the White House the first time he was stopped. He was let off the hook the second time when he was actually caught at the White House with a weapon. He was not only allowed to scale the fence, but he was also allowed to run through the large yard and go to the front door without being shot. The alarm that is supposed to go off? It was conveniently disabled. Reasonable security at the main entrance? It was a lone SS . . . a female at that.

Clearly, this was an inside-job. Letting him off the hook multiple times even after being interviewed by SS two times over the last two months, not monitoring him, not caring that he was climbing the fence and running to the door, not securing the door, turning the alarm off . . . Republicans sure were doing anything they could to make sure the first black president was killed.

Where were all of your conspiracy theories then, deplorables?
 
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I also support the first amendment and ethical obligations, which means standing up for what is wrong. Supporting a bigot is wrong, so I make sure to practice my first amendment right.


I have no problem with abortion. I have no problem with drag queens reading books to children while showing them that not all people look a certain way and still should be treated with respect.
Gotcha. You just have a problem with freedom of speech when you don’t agree with it. Makes perfect sense.
 
Supporting a bigot is wrong, so I make sure to practice my first amendment right.

So your opinions are correct and anyone with different opinions are wrong?

What makes Trump a bigot?

What policies of the left improve your life?

What polices of the right or Trump’s negatively affect your life?

You're just a dumbass, intolerant, bleater.
 
Gotcha. You just have a problem with freedom of speech when you don’t agree with it. Makes perfect sense.
Moron, show where I have a problem with free speech. I entirely support, while at the same time, I entirely support mocking morons like you who say shit that don't make sense.
 
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