San Francisco dubbed 'worst run' city in the United States, for second year in a row, according to new report: Several California cities did poorly.

[30CAT]

Those Democrat policies working hard for you!

12 cities in California are rated in the bottom 48, of the 148 cities.

Charleston, WV ranked higher than Los Angeles, and several other California cities.

Huntington, WV ranked higher than ALL of California's cities.

San Francisco dubbed 'worst run' city in the United States, according to new report

San Francisco was ranked as the worst run city in the United States based on a WalletHub report on Tuesday that ranked effective uses of city budgets.

www.foxnews.com

 

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[Marshall Jeff]

Now I feel bad about dictator Trump taking those millions of dollars out of there.

 

[KyMUfan]

WalletHub seems credible enough to be a source for the New York Times...

WalletHub - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"For example, in mid-November 2021, a weekly New York Times feature used Wallethub's data for what the Times headlined "The Best and Worst Cities For Celebrating Thanksgiving."[30]"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/realestate/which-cities-are-best-at-celebrating-thanksgiving.html

"While few would dispute that the best place to observe the holiday is with friends and family, some cities are just better at celebrating Thanksgiving than others. A WalletHub study scored the 100 largest cities in the United States on 20 metrics over five categories to achieve an overall ranking."

 

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[riflearm2]

To summarize, this report is essentially ranking cities based on the quality of the services the city offers in relation to the cost of those services.

I don't give a shit how much it costs, I just want it done right and done well. And when you look at the first column on the below link ("Quality of City Services Rank"), you can filter by that ranking. Then, the second column looks at "Total Budget Per Capita." In other words, how much per head. If you filter that and go to the bottom (so those who are spending the most), you'll notice one thing: the most expensive cities for cost-of-living in the country are at the bottom - NY, SF, LA, Long Beach, Seattle, Tacoma. At the top of that column are the areas where the cost-of-living is the lowest: Idaho, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Montana, west virginia, Indiana, Mississippi, South Dakota . . .

Did you ever wonder why that is? In other words, this ranking - at least 50% of it - factors in the cost per head, which in a high cost-of-living areas, is always going to be higher. I could have not looked at any of the metrics used in the first column and been very accurate with these rankings, since at least 50% of the grade was based on cost-of-living.

It's extraordinarily stupidly done. $1000 per person in Nampa, Idaho is going to get a lot more government services than $1000 will get you in NY.

 

[30CAT]

To summarize, this report is essentially ranking cities based on the quality of the services the city offers in relation to the cost of those services.

I don't give a shit how much it costs, I just want it done right and done well. And when you look at the first column on the below link ("Quality of City Services Rank"), you can filter by that ranking. Then, the second column looks at "Total Budget Per Capita." In other words, how much per head. If you filter that and go to the bottom (so those who are spending the most), you'll notice one thing: the most expensive cities for cost-of-living in the country are at the bottom - NY, SF, LA, Long Beach, Seattle, Tacoma. At the top of that column are the areas where the cost-of-living is the lowest: Idaho, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Montana, west virginia, Indiana, Mississippi, South Dakota . . .

Did you ever wonder why that is? In other words, this ranking - at least 50% of it - factors in the cost per head, which in a high cost-of-living areas, is always going to be higher. I could have not looked at any of the metrics used in the first column and been very accurate with these rankings, since at least 50% of the grade was based on cost-of-living.

It's extraordinarily stupidly done. $1000 per person in Nampa, Idaho is going to get a lot more government services than $1000 will get you in NY.

After all of that, California is still rated terribly. Little ole Huntington, WV outshines ever city in California.

Shithole, USA

 

[ThunderCat98]

Idaho, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Montana, west virginia, Indiana, Mississippi, South Dakota . . .

The cost of living in Idaho is so low it's listed twice?

 

[extragreen]

Wonder how the "worst run" city, San Francisco, is also considered the healthiest city. SF comes in at #1 and is joined by 5 other California cities in the top 20.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

WalletHub seems credible enough to be a source for the New York Times...

WalletHub - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"For example, in mid-November 2021, a weekly New York Times feature used Wallethub's data for what the Times headlined "The Best and Worst Cities For Celebrating Thanksgiving."[30]"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/realestate/which-cities-are-best-at-celebrating-thanksgiving.html

"While few would dispute that the best place to observe the holiday is with friends and family, some cities are just better at celebrating Thanksgiving than others. A WalletHub study scored the 100 largest cities in the United States on 20 metrics over five categories to achieve an overall ranking."

Now godddamnit, here is something really important, the best cities at celebrating Thanksgiving!

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Huntington, WV

If Huntington is 17th best in this "study", and Huntington is ran by a Democrat, is that not an endorsement of Democrat policies? 🤔

 

[riflearm2]

The cost of living in Idaho is so low it's listed twice?

I listed the state of each city listed. Nampa and Boise were both on the top, so Idaho gets credit twice.

Tier two attorneys can figure that out.

 

[i am herdman]

Wonder how the "worst run" city, San Francisco, is also considered the healthiest city. SF comes in at #1 and is joined by 5 other California cities in the top 20.

Sounds like a good place for you to move to.

 

[extragreen]

Sounds like a good place for you to move to.

A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well.

 

[i am herdman]

A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well.

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[extragreen]

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A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well.

 

[i am herdman]

A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well.

You sit on a throne of lies and are a mouthpiece for false prophets.

 

[KyMUfan]

If Huntington is 17th best in this "study", and Huntington is ran by a Democrat, is that not an endorsement of Democrat policies? 🤔

Only in a "libertarian's" mind...

 

[extragreen]

You sit on a throne of lies and are a mouthpiece for false prophets.

A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well. You Godless trumpchum sucking oath breaker.

 

[i am herdman]

A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well. You Godless trumpchum sucking oath breaker.

You bed with scalawags and roll on heaps of perpetual poppycock.

 

[extragreen]

You bed with scalawags and roll on heaps of perpetual poppycock.

A den of lying trumpchum suckers would suit you well. You Godless trumpchum sucking oath breaker.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Only in a "libertarian's" mind...

Personally, I think Huntington is poorly ran. But I'm not the one that posted this article. Perhaps he should answer the question.

 

[KyMUfan]

Personally, I think Huntington is poorly ran. But I'm not the one that posted this article. Perhaps he should answer the question.

I think most cities are including Huntington.

Talking about poorly run - for a comparison Ashland KY 21k population, $122MM budget.

Huntington WV 45k population, $70MM budget.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

I think most cities are including Huntington.

Talking about poorly run - for a comparison Ashland KY 21k population, $122MM budget.

Huntington WV 45k population, $70MM budget.

I don't believe budget size has much to do with how well a city utilizes its budget.

There are differences in the tax structures allowed in KY and WV that likely account for that difference.

I also see from a quick Google that Ashland is undertaking a large wastewater project, including federal grant money. Did they also have a bond issue to help pay for that?

Dumb shit goes on in Huntington. HFD not maintaining apparatus comes immediately to mind.

 

[i am herdman]

Huntington has lost about half of its population in my lifetime. They made some bonehead decisions along the way. The interstate being one. The mall being another. Huntington and Charleston got in a pissing contest years ago about a regional airport being located between the two. Mistake. That could have been an air trans-ark that might have attracted things like a Fed Ex shipping center or UPS and later down the road something like an Amazon or Wal-Mart distribution center. They ****ed up, protecting their own interests with the power brokers and the time. A hub in between the two(Teas Valley, Milton, Hurricane, etc.) would have helped both places.

Government works best when partnered with the private sector and they work together. WV has not figured that out. A rising tide lifts all ships.

And for god sakes, can they figure out how to not work on I64? Terrible.

WV is very clanish and it has hurt them.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

The interstate being one

At the time. IMO it is now one of the best features of Huntington for its post-industrial future.

Downtown Huntington is far more pleasant without an interstate running through it.

Huntington and Charleston got in a pissing contest years ago about a regional airport being located between the two.

That was all Charleston blocking it. And Kent Carper, who likes to show his dick to women in the park.

 

[KyMUfan]

I don't believe budget size has much to do with how well a city utilizes its budget.

I've always said here there are many different ways to measure efficiencies. However Ashland does spend over 3 times the amount per capita than Huntington does.

There are differences in the tax structures allowed in KY and WV that likely account for that difference.

Most cities generate the majority of their tax revenues via property taxes. When Ashland Oil moved from downtown and King's Daughters Medical Center started expanding the tax base shrank and Ashland implemented a city payroll tax. Plus Ashland has a really high insurance surtax.

I also see from a quick Google that Ashland is undertaking a large wastewater project, including federal grant money. Did they also have a bond issue to help pay for that?

I believe it is currently unfunded but has been included in the budget. I'll check.

Dumb shit goes on in Huntington. HFD not maintaining apparatus comes immediately to mind.

Well Ashland is in the middle of installing 5 roundabouts on Winchester Avenue. I've been told there is a work stoppage because they aren't ADA compliant...

They also screwed up a multi-million $ riverfront project by not consulting the management of Summer Motion for how best to situate stage barges plus they had the downstream side of the boat ramp jutting out rather than the upstream side. There are many more examples...

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Well Ashland is in the middle of installing 5 roundabouts on Winchester Avenue. I've been told there is a work stoppage because they aren't ADA compliant...

I like roundabouts in most situations. Obviously I wouldn't like one at Hurstbourne and Taylorsville Rd in Louisville, way too much traffic there for one, and too many aggressive driving assholes.

 

[i am herdman]

I like roundabouts in most situations. Obviously I wouldn't like one at Hurstbourne and Taylorsville Rd in Louisville, way too much traffic there for one, and too many aggressive driving assholes.

You mean a traffic circle?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

You mean a traffic circle?

No.

 

[extragreen]

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[KyMUfan]

I like roundabouts in most situations. Obviously I wouldn't like one at Hurstbourne and Taylorsville Rd in Louisville, way too much traffic there for one, and too many aggressive driving assholes.

A couple of weeks ago we visited some friends in Noblesville. The north side of Indy has really experienced growth and they have implemented many roundabouts. I was thinking while driving how those seemed to keep the traffic flowing.

However in Ashland they are too tight for downtown and not very well thought out.

 

[30CAT]

A couple of weeks ago we visited some friends in Noblesville. The north side of Indy has really experienced growth and they have implemented many roundabouts. I was thinking while driving how those seemed to keep the traffic flowing.

However in Ashland they are too tight for downtown and not very well thought out.

They put one in Williamstown and I love it. A couple things that do frustrate me, are some people entering the roundabout, think the yield side is a stop sign. Also stopping in the middle of it to wave people in, completely destroying the purpose of a roundabout.