Science isn’t political

[herdfan429]

Or is it? Let’s just downplay potential corona virus origins because trump

"At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn't want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins," she said.

There's still no evidence of a Chinese lab leak. But here’s what's changed, scientists say.

President Biden and some scientists are demanding an investigation into the lab leak theory, a hypothesis that the origin of coronavirus was a virology lab in Wuhan, China.

news.yahoo.com

 

[KyMUfan]

Unfortunately everything seems to be politicized today, from movies to sports to science yet so many fail to see that.

 

[i am herdman]

They know where it came from and it was partly to not embarrass folks like Fauci and the CDC.

 

[greengeezer]

Then why do some people have a Political Science degree? 😁

 

[extragreen]

They know where it came from and it was partly to not embarrass folks like Fauci and the CDC.

Show us the evidence, idiot

 

[i am herdman]

Show us the evidence, idiot

would it even matter to you, General Tso?

 

[extragreen]

would it even matter to you, General Tso?

You have none. Lying idiot trumptard.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Avoid the greedsters.

 

[extragreen]

Avoid the greedsters, and become a snotlicker.

 

[riflearm2]

Or is it? Let’s just downplay potential corona virus origins because trump

"At the time, it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn't want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins," she said.

There's still no evidence of a Chinese lab leak. But here’s what's changed, scientists say.

President Biden and some scientists are demanding an investigation into the lab leak theory, a hypothesis that the origin of coronavirus was a virology lab in Wuhan, China.

news.yahoo.com

You've greatly misinterpreted the issue.

 

[herdfan429]

You've greatly misinterpreted the issue.

No I haven’t. They didn’t want to agree with trump and risk being called a racist.

 

[riflearm2]

No I haven’t. They didn’t want to agree with trump and risk being called a racist.

Which is entirely different than them politicizing science, which is what you claimed. They have said that there is still NO EVIDENCE that it was created in the lab, but that they are open to the possibility. If they were denying science, then you'd have a leg to stand on. But that isn't what they did.

They consistently said that there is no evidence that the virus was created in the lab, which continues to be the case.

 

[i am herdman]

Which is entirely different than them politicizing science, which is what you claimed. They have said that there is still NO EVIDENCE that it was created in the lab, but that they are open to the possibility. If they were denying science, then you'd have a leg to stand on. But that isn't what they did.

They consistently said that there is no evidence that the virus was created in the lab, which continues to be the case.

Scientist Says Some Colleagues Were Hesitant to Legitimize Lab-Leak Theory Out of Fear They Would Be ‘Associated with Trump’

A scientist revealed that she waited to legitimize the lab-leak hypothesis until President Trump left office.

www.yahoo.com

 

[i am herdman]

They knew and still know it is a possibility(and likely a high possibility) and they still didn't do the right thing because of fear being associated with Trump.

 

[KyMUfan]

There is absolutely no possibility.

There is a possibility.

See the difference? I do...

 

[riflearm2]

Scientist Says Some Colleagues Were Hesitant to Legitimize Lab-Leak Theory Out of Fear They Would Be ‘Associated with Trump’

A scientist revealed that she waited to legitimize the lab-leak hypothesis until President Trump left office.

www.yahoo.com

That's essentially the same story as the pedophiliac body rubber posted. It doesn't change anything. Failing to act on something isn't the same as politicizing science.

 

[i am herdman]

That's essentially the same story as the pedophiliac body rubber posted. It doesn't change anything. Failing to act on something isn't the same as politicizing science.

Bull shit. That is pure bull shit and you know it.

 

[extragreen]

There is absolutely no possibility.

There is a possibility.

See the difference? I do...

I see plainly that you're an idiot.

 

[SamSwimmer]

New video showing the Wuhan lab hosting live bats in 2017 despite repeated denials. Man, they are really dancing around the gain of function aspect.

 

[i am herdman]

New video showing the Wuhan lab hosting live bats in 2017 despite repeated denials. Man, they are really dancing around the gain of function aspect.

Paging, Dr Fauci, Dr Fauci

 

[herdfan429]

Which is entirely different than them politicizing science, which is what you claimed. They have said that there is still NO EVIDENCE that it was created in the lab, but that they are open to the possibility. If they were denying science, then you'd have a leg to stand on. But that isn't what they did.

They consistently said that there is no evidence that the virus was created in the lab, which continues to be the case.

They purposefully ignored discussing/investigating a possible source of origin only because of trump and what they thought about him. That is absolutely playing politics with science.

 

[riflearm2]

They purposefully ignored discussing/investigating a possible source of origin only because of trump and what they thought about him. That is absolutely playing politics with science.

That has nothing to do with science. Your claim was that "science isn't political." It isn't. Are scientists, as individuals, political? Sure. That doesn't mean that science is political.

 

[i am herdman]

That has nothing to do with science. Your claim was that "science isn't political." It isn't. Are scientists, as individuals, political? Sure. That doesn't mean that science is political.

Global warming is political. So, is the Wuhan Flu apparently.

 

[extragreen]

Global warming is political. So, is the Wuhan Flu apparently.

You're an idiot

 

[i am herdman]

You're an idiot

deflection

 

[extragreen]

deflection

Idiocy^^^

 

[KyMUfan]

Politics is money. Money is politics. There is a lot of federal money research money at stake. That makes sciences that depend on federal funding to be political.

Scientists are political (or biased) as are most people. Scientists can't check their political and other biases at the door. Often those biases are the driving force for their research, to either prove or disprove a certain hypothesis. That hypothesis begins with a belief that it is either true or not. It is basic human nature and to deny that science (i.e. scientists) isn't biased or political is to deny basic human nature.

The Lancet letter regarding the origins of Covid was political in nature as the recent Vanity Fair article suggests, since its primary sponsor was driven by his desire to protect financial funding for research.

How come it seems to only be liberals that deny they are biased or worse yet, believe they are the only ones able to turn off and on their biases as circumstances dictate?

 

[alphasig1053]

There isn't much that isn't politicized these days.

 

[herdfan429]

That has nothing to do with science. Your claim was that "science isn't political." It isn't. Are scientists, as individuals, political? Sure. That doesn't mean that science is political.

They made a political decision to ignore data or look into a very viable solution to covid origins so yes science was political

 

[riflearm2]

They made a political decision to ignore data or look into a very viable solution to covid origins so yes science was political

If they were doing what you said, then why are they claiming what they are now? They didn't ignore anything. They simply weren't going to make public comments on those things when there was no benefit to them, and due to Trump's rhetoric, could only make things worse.

That's not ignoring data. It's being smart.

 

[KyMUfan]

Someone here keeps doubling down on stupid...

 

[riflearm2]

Someone here keeps doubling down on stupid...

You morons simply can't get past the fact that your reading and writing abilities are shit.

The title of the thread is wrong regarding this incident. They didn't make "science political." Not investigating something, not acting on something, etc. is not science. That has nothing to do with science.

Now, if they were doing something scientific and allowed politics to change something that is a part of science, then the title would be applicable.

You morons can't seem to separate that people are political; science is not. Were the people responsible for using science political? Sure, that's a possibility. But is science political? No.

It's no different than saying "Truth shouldn't be political" and then blaming a dishonest media member for misleading with their reporting. "Truth" isn't what is political. The person claiming to report the truth would be political, but that doesn't allow for truth to be political. It's why "alternative fact" gained so much traction to mock Trump's administration.

 

[KyMUfan]

And now someone in tripling down on stupid.

No reasonable and rational person would split the hairs some here do.

We were told to "trust the science" when in fact science (i.e. the leading scientists in the field) chose not to fully investigate the potential origins and causes of Covid. The reasons why? A political bias and the financial interests of those very ones making the original and authoritative statement on the origins of Covid. Those "scientists" made science political in the process, so yes science has been politicized and is political by these actions.

 

[KyMUfan]

You morons can't seem to separate that people are political; science is not.

Science

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

The selective application of science, which is not intellectual, practical or ethical is what makes it political.

 

[riflearm2]

The selective application of science, which is not intellectual, practical or ethical is what makes it political.

The "selective application of science" has nothing to do with science and everything to do with the person, which is political. This isn't difficult to understand.

 

[KyMUfan]

The "selective application of science" has nothing to do with science and everything to do with the person, which is political. This isn't difficult to understand.

A scientist that individually chooses the selective application of science is political.

However this was an institutional selective application of science which makes science political, and not just an isolated individual.

See the difference?

This isn't difficult to understand.

 

[extragreen]

A scientist that individually chooses the selective application of science is political.

However this was an institutional selective application of science which makes science political, and not just an isolated individual.

See the difference?

This isn't difficult to understand.

You're an idiot.

 

[KyMUfan]

You're an idiot.

You have a limited vocabulary and an even more limited intellect.

 

[extragreen]

You have a limited vocabulary and an even more limited intellect.

But you're an idiot.