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I keep seeing people post and talk about how LGBTQ people are in danger and how minorities will lose their rights, etc.

I legitimately have no idea what they think is going to happen or where these fears come from. Whether you agree with them or not, can someone explain the basis for these statements?

Seems like a massive overaction and product of the years and years and years of fear-mongering by the Dems and MSM. If there is some rational basis for it, I'd like to know so I can research it on my own. Thx.
 
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the liberal propaganda machine and liberal talking heads are working overtime to spread bullshit.

the pure bullshit i hear come out of some of their mouths is astonishing. even more astonishing, their lemmings suck it up and believe every last word and now live in fear for their lives over nothing.
 
The abortion debate is like that. Some of them were saying Kamala will bring back Roe V Wade. No, the president can't do that. The Supreme Court has decided that and kicked it back to the states. Abortion is legal in all 50 states. The state decide the limitations and requirements and licensing just like a dentist, surgeon, foot doctor, etc.

My California neighbor is worried Trump is going to destroy the national parks. The reality is Donald Trump protected the national parks and expanded the system and made it more open to more people at lower costs.

They get to a level of derangement.
 
I keep seeing people post and talk about how LGBTQ people are in danger and how minorities will lose their rights, etc.

I legitimately have no idea what they think is going to happen or where these fears come from. Whether you agree with them or not, can someone explain the basis for these statements?

Seems like a massive overaction and product of the years and years and years of fear-mongering by the Dems and MSM. If there is some rational basis for it, I'd like to know so I can research it on my own. Thx.

It’s fear mongering, and… to put it bluntly…blatant lying on the part of the left. Nobody talks about doing anything to anybody except liberals.

You and I have some mutual friends that live in the Carolinas. They are sisters, and it wouldn’t take long for you to figure out who they are. The older one (maybe a year or two younger than you) has always leaned to the left, but the younger (I graduated with her) was always pretty conservative. Apparently the younger one has been sucked into this mind virus, and it breaks my heart, because we have always been very close. She’s been one of my best female friends since Jr High. Based on some of her responses on Facebook, and the crowd she’s responding to, it’s obvious who she voted for, and it wasn’t Trump.

She likes and “hearts” all these posts calling us racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone. We’ve taken away all their rights, etc. Just ridiculous nonsense. And it’s almost like it happened overnight. We text a lot and I called her out on it the day of the election and she wouldn’t come out right and tell me that she voted for Kamala. But she went on a diatribe about how she couldn’t stand the Republican gubernatorial candidate. I wanted to tell her that eventually, people like me will stop associating with people like her if that’s the way she truly feels about us. But she truly is one of my best friends (30+ years) and we’ve been there for each other during some rough times in both of our lives. She drove all the way to Williamson just to spend 30 minutes with me at my dad’s funeral, only to turn right around and drive back to North Carolina.

These are the things in life that are so hard to reconcile.
 
It’s pure evil. The democrats prey on the weak minded, self loathing, most mentally vulnerable in our population. They fill them with fear and hate in order to compel them to vote a certain way. They don’t care how much they are harming these people and ruining their lives.

It’s all BS, but very calculated BS based on tested brainwashing methods.
 
All because they have zilch to run on. They have no other platform.
 
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This election has truly exposed the extent of what shills the media have become. And it didn’t stop once the votes were tallied. They’re now acting like Joe would have won had he not been coup’d out by Pelosi & the dNC
 
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Apparently the younger one has been sucked into this mind virus, and it breaks my heart, because we have always been very close. She’s been one of my best female friends since Jr High.

She likes and “hearts” all these posts calling us racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone. We’ve taken away all their rights, etc. Just ridiculous nonsense. I wanted to tell her that eventually, people like me will stop associating with people like her if that’s the way she truly feels about us.
In all seriousness, how does this not hit you in the face like a fvcking Mack Truck going 75 mph down I-64? Fvck, this has to qualify as a finalist for one of the most tone-deaf posts in HerdNation history.

Your best friend, Nick Goff of Huntington, spent years posting "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic) comments behind an anonymous account and pushing for agenda against those groups. As we have seen from him for years, these are his true beliefs and not just being done for entertainment or trolling. He is a die-hard trumper. When those comments were brought to your attention numerous times, you refused to speak out against any of it:



But yet when another one of your longest and closest friends says that she is against those exact type of people, calls them (whom you sit back and stay silent/complicit about) exactly what they are, you don't want to associate with her as a result? Big Dummy, you know I think you are a good person, but fvck! How does this foolishness, hypocrisy, and basic truth not smack you in the face and wake you up?

Again, you sit back and don't care that your best friend makes "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic) comments. But when another of your closest friends calls people like him "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic), you want to disassociate with her?

My god, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried!
 
The abortion debate is like that. Some of them were saying Kamala will bring back Roe V Wade. No, the president can't do that. The Supreme Court has decided that and kicked it back to the states. Abortion is legal in all 50 states. The state decide the limitations and requirements and licensing just like a dentist, surgeon, foot doctor, etc.
Let me dumb this down for you deplorables:

The winner of the election will probably get to hand-select two new justices during the next four years, as Thomas and Alito will both be 80 or close to it. Kamala would then get to flip the learnings of SCOTUS from 6-3 conservative to 5-4 liberal. In doing that, those abortion/Roe v. Wade claims are very reasonable.

My California neighbor is worried Trump is going to destroy the national parks. The reality is Donald Trump protected the national parks and expanded the system and made it more open to more people at lower costs.
Yeah, trump is a big supporter of the national park system. Just listen to each time he tries to read "Yosemite."

What bullshit fantasy world do you live in? trump, by far, is an enemy to the environment. He has shown that time-and-time again, and I recently posted about his actions with Bear's Ears as proof that impacted me living in Utah.

He has done that repeatedly.

Sure, the Great American Outdoor Act (or whatever it was called) set aside money for national parks, but it was far less than what is needed to make those parks complete.

You deplorables fail to acknowledge that trump's budget proposal would have raped about $600 million per year to national parks, about 97% to the Land & Water Conservation Fund, and many more cuts.
 
I keep seeing people post and talk about how LGBTQ people are in danger and how minorities will lose their rights, etc.

I legitimately have no idea what they think is going to happen or where these fears come from. Whether you agree with them or not, can someone explain the basis for these statements?
Well, since you neglected to use the actual quotes, it's hard to directly explain/defend them, but let me dumb it down to try and help you.

Hate crimes skyrocketed during trump's first campaign and immediately after his election. Though there is no data yet, based on both widespread and local issues within the first few days of the last election, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of that issue this time. Do you think that was just a coincidence or do you think that trump's extremely inaccurate, vile, and racist/xenophobic rhetoric resulted in it? Reasonably intelligent people would go with the latter, especially when the guy repeatedly urged his followers to use physical violence (and promised to pay for their legal fees) against people who opposed their stance.

So when the president makes those widespread comments and people act on what he says, what do you think the response will be?

Specifically, trump and his deplorables have spent an enormous amount of time talking about very rare happenings: biologically born males competing against females in sports, biologically born males using female restrooms, etc. To deplorables, that leads to bigotry against gays. Don't believe me? I can post screenshots of local Facebook threads showing that. Last week, at a family-friendly gay pride event locally, children walked through it with the Heil Hitler sign with their hands (Nick Goff of Huntington would be proud). Teens drove two pickup trucks around the park where the event was held with trump flags yelling homophobic slurs. Children at the local schools here have been bullied by children of trump voters and told their parents were going to be taken away.

In Utah, there have been death threads, bomb threats, etc. against coffee establishments, the owners' personal residences, protesters armed on the sidewalk, etc. who host events like Drag Queen Happy Hour. This all comes from the deplorable side, and all is rooted in things like "bathroom bills" and other very rare issues that trump and you deplorables have put as priority 1A.

Perhaps the biggest local instance is the recent school board election. In other school districts in the area, professional agitators have been going to school board meetings and causing problem resulting in police intervention frequently. They travel as a small group and try disrupting these meetings. They stand for a handful of bigoted positions against gays. As a result, the school district has had to spend millions on legal fees defending against lawsuits.

In my local school board election, there were three candidates who were part of this "bus candidate" movement. They are extremely religious (devout Mormon, go on white Christian nationalist podcasts, etc.). Their entire goal is to get public money to go to religious charter schools. Their religious stances are anti-gay. They don't directly say that during campaigning, but they are trying to fight a law that prohibits forcing teachers from having to contact parents if they believe their child is gay. This group wants to overturn that law and then force their district to have teachers mandated to contact parents if they have reason to believe a student is gay.

Can you imagine being a 14 year old scared to come out of the closet to your parents, being able to confide in a teacher, and/or just showing signs of being gay, and then having the school mandated to tell your parents? Talk about a shitty parent-child relationship.

And two of those three candidates were elected.

You think they are going to stop with just that mandate? Hell no. They will fight for what has happened in Louisiana (Ten Commandments posted in every school room), Oklahoma, etc. They will continue to push for public money to be used for religious schooling. They will continue to push for whitewashing history and minimizing teaching on slavery. They will continue to push for anti-gay legislation.
 
Let me dumb this down for you deplorables:

The winner of the election will probably get to hand-select two new justices during the next four years, as Thomas and Alito will both be 80 or close to it. Kamala would then get to flip the learnings of SCOTUS from 6-3 conservative to 5-4 liberal. In doing that, those abortion/Roe v. Wade claims are very reasonable.


Yeah, trump is a big supporter of the national park system. Just listen to each time he tries to read "Yosemite."

What bullshit fantasy world do you live in? trump, by far, is an enemy to the environment. He has shown that time-and-time again, and I recently posted about his actions with Bear's Ears as proof that impacted me living in Utah.

He has done that repeatedly.

Sure, the Great American Outdoor Act (or whatever it was called) set aside money for national parks, but it was far less than what is needed to make those parks complete.

You deplorables fail to acknowledge that trump's budget proposal would have raped about $600 million per year to national parks, about 97% to the Land & Water Conservation Fund, and many more cuts.
You are inflicted with the mind virus. The only way for the Democrats to bring back Toe v Wade would be to pack the court in their favor by adding new justices that lean left. Abortion is still legal in all 50 states.. Abortion became a ludicrous fear and fever pitched rallying point for the left.
 
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You are inflicted with thr mind virus. The only way for the Democrats to bring back Toe v Wade would be to pack the court in their favor by adding new justices that lean left. Abortion is still legal in all 50 states.. Abortion became a ludicrous fear and fever pitched rallying point for the left.
The dems still support packing the court? They were pretty vocal about it. And I’m sure they 100% understood a possible scenario where the GOP won bigly & it might go in their favor, right?
 
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furthermore, the enviro whackos make no sense either. Save the earth. But, use more lithium batteries. Now lithium batteries with phosphate. I have been to a phosphate mine. yehhh, these people make no sense. I use lithium batteries but, to say that is going to save the earth is ignorant. It is just in someone elses back yard.
 
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Still don’t completely trust lithium batteries. You can’t get them wet, charging is a problem in cold weather, and there are continual reports about them bursting into flames. I never put one on charge and then leave it unattended.
 
In all seriousness, how does this not hit you in the face like a fvcking Mack Truck going 75 mph down I-64? Fvck, this has to qualify as a finalist for one of the most tone-deaf posts in HerdNation history.

Your best friend, Nick Goff of Huntington, spent years posting "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic) comments behind an anonymous account and pushing for agenda against those groups. As we have seen from him for years, these are his true beliefs and not just being done for entertainment or trolling. He is a die-hard trumper. When those comments were brought to your attention numerous times, you refused to speak out against any of it:



But yet when another one of your longest and closest friends says that she is against those exact type of people, calls them (whom you sit back and stay silent/complicit about) exactly what they are, you don't want to associate with her as a result? Big Dummy, you know I think you are a good person, but fvck! How does this foolishness, hypocrisy, and basic truth not smack you in the face and wake you up?

Again, you sit back and don't care that your best friend makes "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic) comments. But when another of your closest friends calls people like him "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic), you want to disassociate with her?

My god, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried!
Let me dumb this down for you deplorables:

The winner of the election will probably get to hand-select two new justices during the next four years, as Thomas and Alito will both be 80 or close to it. Kamala would then get to flip the learnings of SCOTUS from 6-3 conservative to 5-4 liberal. In doing that, those abortion/Roe v. Wade claims are very reasonable.


Yeah, trump is a big supporter of the national park system. Just listen to each time he tries to read "Yosemite."

What bullshit fantasy world do you live in? trump, by far, is an enemy to the environment. He has shown that time-and-time again, and I recently posted about his actions with Bear's Ears as proof that impacted me living in Utah.

He has done that repeatedly.

Sure, the Great American Outdoor Act (or whatever it was called) set aside money for national parks, but it was far less than what is needed to make those parks complete.

You deplorables fail to acknowledge that trump's budget proposal would have raped about $600 million per year to national parks, about 97% to the Land & Water Conservation Fund, and many more cuts.
Well, since you neglected to use the actual quotes, it's hard to directly explain/defend them, but let me dumb it down to try and help you.

Hate crimes skyrocketed during trump's first campaign and immediately after his election. Though there is no data yet, based on both widespread and local issues within the first few days of the last election, I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of that issue this time. Do you think that was just a coincidence or do you think that trump's extremely inaccurate, vile, and racist/xenophobic rhetoric resulted in it? Reasonably intelligent people would go with the latter, especially when the guy repeatedly urged his followers to use physical violence (and promised to pay for their legal fees) against people who opposed their stance.

So when the president makes those widespread comments and people act on what he says, what do you think the response will be?

Specifically, trump and his deplorables have spent an enormous amount of time talking about very rare happenings: biologically born males competing against females in sports, biologically born males using female restrooms, etc. To deplorables, that leads to bigotry against gays. Don't believe me? I can post screenshots of local Facebook threads showing that. Last week, at a family-friendly gay pride event locally, children walked through it with the Heil Hitler sign with their hands (Nick Goff of Huntington would be proud). Teens drove two pickup trucks around the park where the event was held with trump flags yelling homophobic slurs. Children at the local schools here have been bullied by children of trump voters and told their parents were going to be taken away.

In Utah, there have been death threads, bomb threats, etc. against coffee establishments, the owners' personal residences, protesters armed on the sidewalk, etc. who host events like Drag Queen Happy Hour. This all comes from the deplorable side, and all is rooted in things like "bathroom bills" and other very rare issues that trump and you deplorables have put as priority 1A.

Perhaps the biggest local instance is the recent school board election. In other school districts in the area, professional agitators have been going to school board meetings and causing problem resulting in police intervention frequently. They travel as a small group and try disrupting these meetings. They stand for a handful of bigoted positions against gays. As a result, the school district has had to spend millions on legal fees defending against lawsuits.

In my local school board election, there were three candidates who were part of this "bus candidate" movement. They are extremely religious (devout Mormon, go on white Christian nationalist podcasts, etc.). Their entire goal is to get public money to go to religious charter schools. Their religious stances are anti-gay. They don't directly say that during campaigning, but they are trying to fight a law that prohibits forcing teachers from having to contact parents if they believe their child is gay. This group wants to overturn that law and then force their district to have teachers mandated to contact parents if they have reason to believe a student is gay.

Can you imagine being a 14 year old scared to come out of the closet to your parents, being able to confide in a teacher, and/or just showing signs of being gay, and then having the school mandated to tell your parents? Talk about a shitty parent-child relationship.

And two of those three candidates were elected.

You think they are going to stop with just that mandate? Hell no. They will fight for what has happened in Louisiana (Ten Commandments posted in every school room), Oklahoma, etc. They will continue to push for public money to be used for religious schooling. They will continue to push for whitewashing history and minimizing teaching on slavery. They will continue to push for anti-gay legislation.
Jesus Christ, you're totally unhinged and completely off the charts mentally deranged. You should likely seek help via suck starting a shotgun.
 
Still don’t completely trust lithium batteries. You can’t get them wet, charging is a problem in cold weather, and there are continual reports about them bursting into flames. I never put one on charge and then leave it unattended.
The new ones with phosphate are better in terms of life and stability. But, they are not the savior of the world.
 
Jesus Christ, you're totally unhinged and completely off the charts mentally deranged. You should likely seek help via suck starting a shotgun.
They are really going to go unhinged after the first of the year. There is a possiblity that Trump declares a national emergnecy and uses the military to to do a deportation of illegals. They will flip their lids for him doing what needs to be done. Don't know if it will happen but, there is talk of it. Key word being "illegal". If this happens the libs will flip their shit.
 
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They are really going to go unhinged after the first of the year. There is a possiblity that Trump declares a national emergnecy and uses the military to to do a deportation of illegals. They will flip their lids for him doing what needs to be done. Don't know if it will happen but, there is talk of it. Key word being "illegal". If this happens the libs will flip their shit.
They better just stay out of the freaking way.
 
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RIFLE HAS TOO MUCH TIME ON HIS HANDS. HE SHOULD FIND A HOBBY INSTEAD OF DEGRADING EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO OPPOSES HIS BELIEFS.
 
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In all seriousness, how does this not hit you in the face like a fvcking Mack Truck going 75 mph down I-64? Fvck, this has to qualify as a finalist for one of the most tone-deaf posts in HerdNation history.

Your best friend, Nick Goff of Huntington, spent years posting "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic) comments behind an anonymous account and pushing for agenda against those groups. As we have seen from him for years, these are his true beliefs and not just being done for entertainment or trolling. He is a die-hard trumper. When those comments were brought to your attention numerous times, you refused to speak out against any of it:



But yet when another one of your longest and closest friends says that she is against those exact type of people, calls them (whom you sit back and stay silent/complicit about) exactly what they are, you don't want to associate with her as a result? Big Dummy, you know I think you are a good person, but fvck! How does this foolishness, hypocrisy, and basic truth not smack you in the face and wake you up?

Again, you sit back and don't care that your best friend makes "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic) comments. But when another of your closest friends calls people like him "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobiic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone" (you left out anti-semitic), you want to disassociate with her?

My god, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried!

Let me make something clear. I owe you nothing. No explanation. No thoughts. Nothing.

Murox and I have discussed this situation and I’ve made my feelings on it clear to him. He’s the only one deserving of that. But the moment you decided to continually post his personal information on here in an effort to purposely ruin his personal life, you crossed a line that you can’t uncross. It isn’t funny. It isn’t clever. It isn’t cute.

Now, thanks to your dedication in trying to ruin my best friend’s life, and because of the “political candidate” you tried to smear but conveniently refused to name, several of your former teammates, which you think like you, have came to the forefront and have offered to murox some pretty interesting information about you. I’m talking about the same guys you tagged on a baseball-related Facebook post a while back.

You should know that, not only do they not like you at all, they make fun of you behind your back, and have for over two decades. I’ve seen the texts. You should also know that they shared with murox information about you that would explain to everybody on here why and how you get to live the lifestyle you supposedly live. It is (as you already know) so embarrassing that you would get laughed off this message board so hard that you would never return if it were to be made public. But I’m choosing to keep it to myself because A: it doesn’t concern me, and B: the manner in which you choose to live your life is your business…just like murox. And that’s the point.

Now, as I stated before, I owe you nothing. If you have an issue with murox, be a man and take it up with him. You have his phone number.
 
Let me make something clear. I owe you nothing. No explanation. No thoughts. Nothing.

Murox and I have discussed this situation and I’ve made my feelings on it clear to him. He’s the only one deserving of that. But the moment you decided to continually post his personal information on here in an effort to purposely ruin his personal life, you crossed a line that you can’t uncross. It isn’t funny. It isn’t clever. It isn’t cute.

Now, thanks to your dedication in trying to ruin my best friend’s life, and because of the “political candidate” you tried to smear but conveniently refused to name, several of your former teammates, which you think like you, have came to the forefront and have offered to murox some pretty interesting information about you. I’m talking about the same guys you tagged on a baseball-related Facebook post a while back.

You should know that, not only do they not like you at all, they make fun of you behind your back, and have for over two decades. I’ve seen the texts. You should also know that they shared with murox information about you that would explain to everybody on here why and how you get to live the lifestyle you supposedly live. It is (as you already know) so embarrassing that you would get laughed off this message board so hard that you would never return if it were to be made public. But I’m choosing to keep it to myself because A: it doesn’t concern me, and B: the manner in which you choose to live your life is your business…just like murox. And that’s the point.

Now, as I stated before, I owe you nothing. If you have an issue with murox, be a man and take it up with him. You have his phone number.
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RIFLE HAS TOO MUCH TIME ON HIS HANDS. HE SHOULD FIND A HOBBY INSTEAD OF DEGRADING EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO OPPOSES HIS BELIEFS.
His beliefs are whatever his party tells him to believe. ****ing idiot
 
Let me make something clear. I owe you nothing. No explanation. No thoughts. Nothing.
Nope, but at some point, you may want to start defending and explaining yourself, because you look like a giant hypocrite and fool for this. In case you don't remember, you have no problem with your best friend - Nick Goff of Huntington - posting horribly racist, anti-semitic, sexist, and homophobic posts for years behind an anonymous social media account. You've been asked for your thoughts on his comments numerous times, and you haven't said a word.

Yet today, you voluntarily discuss how another good friend of yours calls THOSE EXACT PEOPLE (like Nick Goff of Huntington) "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and everything else you can label someone." And because of that, you want to disassociate with her for calling those people?

How do you not see how ass-backwards, hypocritical, and absurdly stupid that is?

Murox and I have discussed this situation and I’ve made my feelings on it clear to him. =
Are you trying to say that Murox is somebody in this conversation? Why are you outing him? I thought that wasn't allowed. This is about Nick Goff of Huntington, not about a poster on this board.

and I’ve made my feelings on it clear to him. He’s the only one deserving of that.

What kind of fool is scared or hesitates to speak out against those type of bigoted comments? How can you not have a backbone to simply say "yeah, I don't support those comments, I believe they are horrendous, and I think they are vile"? That's not burying your friend. That's not being disloyal. It's simply being a decent human being, and you have failed fulfilling that on this issue.

continually post his personal information on here in an effort to purposely ruin his personal life,
You can't be serious, right? Was his personal information not known by everybody who posts on Pullman? Hell, he has posted it himself as have others. Sabo or one of those old guys even started threads (at least according to Middle Class Murox, but he's been exposed as habitual liar to everybody in his life, so who knows) on Reddit about him with his personal information.

An attempt to ruin his personal life? Again, you can't be serious. Somebody posted a link on here about the issue and/or referenced somebody talking about it, and the responses on there were pretty bad about Nick Goff by locals. Somebody sent me the links to the original threads when he had been outed weeks/months earlier, and the responses from locals on that link were also pretty bad. How the fvck could I "purposely ruin his personal life"? Fvck, based on all of the comments from locals on those links, he has done that to himself for years. People were brutal to him, and they appear to have known him for many years based on their comments.

Did I go to the media? Marshall? His crackhouse tenants? The Marshall AD/Christian Spears (due to his attendance at the function)? The politician whose fundraiser he hosted? Reddit (I don't have an account if one is needed)? X/Twitter (I don't have an account)? Any social media, including any type of Huntington Facebook pages, political pages, etc.? Nope. If I wanted to "ruin his personal life" (again, he appears to have done a hell of a job on that on his own), there would be far, far easier and more impactful things than to mock the three of his friends on here for his vile comments.
Now, thanks to your dedication in trying to ruin my best friend’s life,

Holy shit, you sound like the biggest crying, unreasonable bitch ever to grace this board. Is that why Middle Class Murox is also like that, too? Is it in the water in Williamson? Again, mocking his three friends on here for his vile words/actions is "trying to ruin . . . [his] life?" What a drama bitch you're being.

and because of the “political candidate” you tried to smear but conveniently refused to name,
How did I try to smear the candidate? By mentioning that Nick Goff of Huntington hosted a fundraiser for a local aspiring politician is smearing him? First, I wasn't the one who discovered that. All of that information was exposed on one of those links from weeks/month earlier that were sent to me. So how was I at fault for that?

Now, let's think of the logic behind this: how many people on this board live in Huntington? Not very many, right? So if I were trying to "smear" the political candidate, wouldn't I just name him (or do any of the things I mentioned I could have done with Nick Goff of Huntington if I wanted to "ruin his personal life")? Seriously, if I wanted to "smear" this aspiring politician, why wouldn't I have done any of those far more impactful things? More, why was it convenient for me not to name him? If my intention were to smear him, why wouldn't I have named him? DOH!

So I name Nick Goff of Huntington, because I allegedly want to "ruin his personal life," yet I don't name the aspiring politician who I want to "smear" because that it is convenient to not name him? That makes about as much sense as you calling out your female friend for something you're too cowardly and ethically bankrupt to do.

If I name somebody, I am trying to ruin their personal life. If I don't name somebody, I am trying to smear them "conveniently." Brilliant analysis.

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I am going to start a separate post below so my begging of you to share these stories doesn't get overlooked:
 
It seems like there is someone here that thrives on middle-school girl drama... It's not flattering or appropriate...
 
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You should know that, not only do they not like you at all, they make fun of you behind your back, and have for over two decades. I’ve seen the texts. You should also know that they shared with murox information about you that would explain to everybody on here why and how you get to live the lifestyle you supposedly live. It is (as you already know) so embarrassing that you would get laughed off this message board so hard that you would never return if it were to be made public. But I’m choosing to keep it to myself because A: it doesn’t concern me, and B: the manner in which you choose to live your life is your business…just like murox. And that’s the point.
@riflearm2 I think this is the part that most on the board is interested in. You conveniently didn't respond to this part. Seems sort of damning. Enlighten us.
 
several of your former teammates, which you think like you, have came to the forefront and have offered to murox some pretty interesting information about you. I’m talking about the same guys you tagged on a baseball-related Facebook post a while back.

Uh, huh. I bet. "Several," huh? I am friends with about 20 baseball teammates on Facebook. Of those, I talk to about five of them on an annual basis (and then random comments through social media with some others). By all means, I give you complete freedom and allowance to post. The 1.5 people who "offered some pretty interesting information" will say I only started each year because I have some dirt on the coaches, that I am gay, & that I had flowers in my apartment, just like Middle Class Murox shared when he went around asking people about me over the years . . . all coming from any guys whose future wife liked enough to blow me. Was that "baseball-related Facebook post a while back" the one where multiple of them posted on my Facebook that we all need to get together or was it the one where some were asking me to come back for a game?

But again, let's have fun with this: I give you complete freedom to post any of it. I urge you to. I'm not even asking you to name names. Simply share this "pretty interesting information."

You should know that, not only do they not like you at all, they make fun of you behind your back, and have for over two decades.
Are these the same guys who reach out to me to hang out when they see I am in the same city they are in? What kind of people would pretend to like me, engage with me socially even though they have no reason to, yet not like me for over two decades? And why would they repeatedly vote me in as captain if they didn't like me? Seems a bit odd, huh? Hell, why would three of them continue living with me each year, eight of them live right next door for multiple years, etc.?

Again, PLEASE share these stories. I am not even asking you to tell me the names. Just share the stories.

You should also know that they shared with murox information about you that would explain to everybody on here why and how you get to live the lifestyle you supposedly live. It is (as you already know) so embarrassing that you would get laughed off this message board so hard that you would never return if it were to be made public.

Oh, this is getting really good! Please, I am begging at this point, tell me how I am able to live this lifestyle.

I don't even know what it could be, so let me try to defend it:
- I have never won the lottery.
- I have never won a lawsuit (Cookman, after nearly two years and leading to two of their attorneys getting fired, settled with me for five figures, with my attorney getting a hefty portion; my Jaguar lawsuit for the blow engine was settled out of court for maybe $10k).
- I have never inherited any money from family (grandparents, parents, aunts/uncles, siblings, etc.).
- I have never been given any money from investors, friends, etc., even for business ventures.
- Nobody in my family (or friends, acquaintances, or strangers) has ever, outside of normal Christmas/birthday gifts, given me anything.

I have never been given any breaks (other than being lucky to have been born in this country, being a while male, and having supportive parents) that made my path any easier other than what I just named.

So please, I am begging you, share these stories about not only how I can live the lifestyle that I do but also how it is "so embarrassing that I'd be laughed off this message board so hard that I never would return if it were made public." PLEASE, make it public by posting on here how my life has been possible.

The entire truth: Everything I have has been earned by me. There was no start-up money. There was no gift from family/friends to get me started (other than things I think many of us were lucky to get with loving parents that were able to do for them, like paying their rent in college, being given a normal used car when I was 20, etc.). I am a multi-millionaire . . . not on paper with just equity in residences, etc. but in tangible money I could yank out of a bank within 48 hours (assuming I give the branches time to tell them I am coming to withdraw a large amount). I own a residence in Orange County that I'd get close to $1MM for. I own two properties in downtown Salt Lake City that I'd get $250k - $400k for (individually). I own a residence in Park City that would be in that same range. I own a three bedroom, three bathroom beach condo in Florida (no mortgage). I own an office park outside of Phoenix worth multi-millions. I am down to just two cars: a newer Mercedes and an older BMW SUV. I have over $200k in diamonds, including having bought two more pieces in Vegas about 1.5 months ago. I have too many expensive clothes with tags still attached, too many shoes worth $500-$1000 to even begin counting, etc. I have valuable collector's items: things owned by Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Nicki Minaj, handwritten lyrics by B.B King, handwritten lyrics by Jay-Z, Rick Ross, and Kanye West while writing an unreleased record I worked with them on, handwritten journal of Madonna's, handwritten lyrics by Kanye West from his teenage rhymebook, the hand-drawn bear that Kanye made as the album cover idea for his "College Dropout" album cover, numerous RIAA certified gold/platinum albums with my name engraved on them which can only be ordered by the record label, etc. Within the last couple of weeks, I have discussed (via social media, so I can prove it) with a female high school friend about joining me in buying a rental property in Pine Mountain Club, California. She and I share stories about our rentals. Mine are all long leases while hers are all nightly/Airbnb. She pushed me to another mutual friend who lives in Los Angeles who went to our rival high school and owns a very successful banking company to partner with me. I had to explain to her that I didn't need a partner for financial or risk reasons. I just wanted her to partner with me, since she is an Airbnb/nightly rental expert, and I have neither the experience nor desire to manage that type of property, which she enjoys doing. Her Airbnb is in the Finger Lakes Region of NY, and California property is too expensive for her, so she doesn't want to do it. And I have done it via completely legal means, completely ethical means, and nothing even remotely shady.

EVERYTHING I have, including my lifestyle, is entirely due to my hard work, intelligence, good decisions, & sacrifices. Was I lucky for the reasons I previously listed (being born in this country, caring parents who paid for things through my college, good foundation, etc.)? Sure, I don't take those things for granted nor do I think all kids have that. But that is the situation for most children, and I didn't get anything more than they did. Not being married and not having children is a sacrifice, as it made it easy for me to move when opportunities arose.

Let's have some more fun with this. Due to my accident, I haven't been able to travel much internationally this year. My only international trip was to Mexico City. So even though I was thinking about doing Toronto or Vancouver to meet up with Taylor Swift at her show (again, that is completely and accurately my life), I will do something else: I will let you pick where I go on a vacation. And to further prove my point, I will do it immediately . . . like within one to three days based on flight availability and me packing. It is late Saturday night. So how about if I leave Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday? I'll even cancel my Tuesday Botox appointment. I have a list on my phone of about 20 more cities I want to go to, but some I want to save for when certain people can go with me. Based on weather in those places, I will allow you to pick from the below itinerary:

Either send me to 1) Hong Kong and Beijing for a week or send me to 2) Athens and Barcelona for a week. Your pick. To prove this isn't something I already have planned, below is a picture of my American Air account. As you can see, I have no flights currently booked. But once you tell me which itinerary I am going to, I will book through American, and I will come back and show those flights. I will even let you pick my hotel. I am guessing (but haven't confirmed) that each of those four cities has both a Ritz Carlton and St. Regis. So I will let you pick which of those two hotels I stay at in each city (and you can flip them).




So yes, tell me this embarrassing secret that allows me to live a lifestyle where I can decide 2-4 days prior that I am going to take those kind of trips and allow you to pick which one you want me to take?

If teammates from 25 years ago know about how I can live this lifestyle, then I can only assume that high school friends would know about it, too. More, if these people who don't like me from 25 years ago know about it, I'd imagine that it isn't some top-secret thing, so many people must know about it, right? In that case, you should absolutely feel comfortable sharing how I can live this lifestyle, since if many teammates from 25 years ago know about it, then it must not be much of a secret. More, since I would presumably know they are aware of this secret, wouldn't I be embarrassed to be open with it on social media? But again, I give you complete forgiveness and immunity to post it all, because 1) want a great laugh about what it could possibly be 2) want another opportunity to post proof and boast while defending myself 3) want to show how you/Middle Class Murox are either resorting to blatantly lying or a former teammate who is mad that his wife blew me is fabricating absurdly asinine shit.
 
Knowing that you know, I know, and murox knows is more than enough for me. Oh, and one other person who posts on here knows.

You’ve exhausted your lifelines with me. Back to not responding to you.
 
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RIFLE HAS TOO MUCH TIME ON HIS HANDS. HE SHOULD FIND A HOBBY INSTEAD OF DEGRADING EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO OPPOSES HIS BELIEFS.
Now, KYJelly, does that make any sense? Is it shocking to degrade somebody like Nick Goff of Huntington who made numerous racist, anti-semitic, homophobic, and sexist comments? No, it's normal to do that. Hell, even Big Dummy wants to stop being friends with a person who calls other people those names (yet refuses to condemn the actual people making those comments!).

I hadn't thought about this. A 7-2 SCOTUS? F'n torqued.
It's why so many pro-choice people and others who don't want government being controlled by a religion are freaking out. It very well could end up being 7-2, and based on his previous selections, that lopsided number could stay that way for decades.

It seems like there is someone here that thrives on middle-school girl drama... It's not flattering or appropriate...
You should start a new thread about it and cry that people aren't paying attention to you or posting in your threads. That was about a s middle-schoolish as this board has ever been. Usually, we stay at the elementary level and ask people to pull our finger.

But yes, it is quite middle-schoolish for the many people who continue to ask people about me off of the board. Stalkerish and strange, but it has been going on for about a decade now . . . all because I wouldn't accept the numerous invites to stay the night at somebody's house.

Oh, you don't get a pass on this, Tier Three. You're also complicit due to not condemning the racist, anti-semitic, sexist, and homphobic comments and actions by Nick Goff of Huntington.

But I will also give you some fun. You can also vote where I am going on vacation in a few days. You, Big Dummy, and WV-Fan can choose one of the two itineraries. I will go wherever the majority chooses. And please choose between the Ritz or St. Regis in each city.

@riflearm2 I think this is the part that most on the board is interested in. You conveniently didn't respond to this part. Seems sort of damning. Enlighten us.
You're interested? Hell, I am more interested than you! If you read the last sentence in my original post in response to him, you'll see that I was starting a new post just so people wouldn't overlook it.

I am so intrigued and curious that I didn't want people to overlook it and have given him complete immunity/forgiveness for exposing whatever it is.

His use of "allegedly" about my lifestyle leads me to believe that he will claim that somebody said it is all fake, photoshopped (like the moron said on the other Herd board last week), or by fraudulent/deceitful/dishonest means. But then the fact that he says it is so embarrassing that I would leave the board leads me to believe that whatever he is going to claim will confirm that the lifestyle I claim is legit, but that there is something humiliating behind it: living off of family money, living off of a wealthy gay guy/old woman, theft/something unethical.

On my mother's life, I don't have the slightest idea of what it could be, which is why I am pleading for him to lay it all out there. Don't name names, just put it out there. On my mother's life, everything I have and my lifestyle is due to only my work ethic, intelligence, good decisions, some luck (none being financial from others), and sacrifices.

You're also allowed, along with Tier Three and Big Dummy, to select my vacation itinerary in a few days. I will leave between Monday and Wednesday. I will come back sometime 6-10 days after my departure. You three can pick between if I go to:
- Hong Kong and Beijing
or
- Athens and Barcelona
Note, if there is a long connection at any point, I may stay a night somewhere else if it is out of the country but will still go to the itinerary. You can also choose which hotel (between Ritz Carlton and St. Regis) I stay in in each city, assuming all of those cities have both options. I already posted proof that I have no currently booked flights, so I am doing this just to prove yet another point.
 
Knowing that you know, I know, and murox knows is more than enough for me. Oh, and one other person who posts on here knows.

You’ve exhausted your lifelines with me. Back to not responding to you.
On my mother's life, I have NO idea - not even the slightest - about any of the things you're attempting to hint at.

I have no idea what "interesting things" refers to (other than what I mentioned about things Middle Class Murox previously mentioned). I have no idea what would be even slightly embarrassing about how I am able to have the life that I do, let alone so embarrassing that I would leave the board.

I can't think of even the slightest thing. The only things I can think of that would be embarrassing would be if I were portraying my lifestyle due to my success but it was actually:

lottery, family money/inheritance, lawsuit, illegal/unethical, money of somebody else's

So no, I don't know. And whatever you claim that you, Middle Class Murox, somebody else on the board, and apparently many former teammates know shouldn't be too much for you to disclose. I could understand if it were some really private, secret thing, but that clearly isn't the case since you claim so many people know.

And it is quite convenient for you to run away from the thread after making these accusations. Again, I am giving you complete immunity, freedom, and forgiveness for posting it. Hell, if you think it is so bad, text me or message me what it is. I will post it myself on here. But you won't, because you're either lying to move the discussion away from Nick Goff of Huntington or you know it is completely absurd.
 
On my mother's life, I have NO idea - not even the slightest - about any of the things you're attempting to hint at.

I have no idea what "interesting things" refers to (other than what I mentioned about things Middle Class Murox previously mentioned). I have no idea what would be even slightly embarrassing about how I am able to have the life that I do, let alone so embarrassing that I would leave the board.

I can't think of even the slightest thing. The only things I can think of that would be embarrassing would be if I were portraying my lifestyle due to my success but it was actually:

lottery, family money/inheritance, lawsuit, illegal/unethical, money of somebody else's

So no, I don't know. And whatever you claim that you, Middle Class Murox, somebody else on the board, and apparently many former teammates know shouldn't be too much for you to disclose. I could understand if it were some really private, secret thing, but that clearly isn't the case since you claim so many people know.

And it is quite convenient for you to run away from the thread after making these accusations. Again, I am giving you complete immunity, freedom, and forgiveness for posting it. Hell, if you think it is so bad, text me or message me what it is. I will post it myself on here. But you won't, because you're either lying to move the discussion away from Nick Goff of Huntington or you know it is completely absurd.
More bs from the board narcissist. I thought I was reading a biography about an author who was writing a book. I swear he is becoming more unhinged every day. I can't put up with it any longer. Rifle is joining greed on my "list." See ya.
 
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More bs from the board narcissist. I thought I was reading a biography about an author who was writing a book. I swear he is becoming more unhinged every day. I can't put up with it any longer. Rifle is joining greed on my "list." See ya.
24 of your last 30 posts have been about me or to me. That’s the usual numbers for you even before those last 30 posts.

I’m the only one who ever responds to you on here, and it’s usually just to mock you. What will you ever do without me being in your thoughts all day?
 
It's why so many pro-choice people and others who don't want government being controlled by a religion are freaking out. It very well could end up being 7-2, and based on his previous selections, that lopsided number could stay that way for decades.
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