SIAP; Ohio Train Derailment

[Jbabbington]

Not sure if many have been following this, but I thought I would bring it over for discussion.

Not much reporting being done on it, when there definitely should be.

The Vinvyl Chloride has already gotten into the Ohio River up in Weirton and we're downstream of it.

The Ohio River feeds 5 million people.

WV American Water stated that as of today there have been no changes in the raw water, but a second intake is currently being installed in the Guyandotte for us to switch over to if need be.

 

[GeauxHerd]

Yep. VC is no good. No good at all.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Not sure if many have been following this, but I thought I would bring it over for discussion.

Not much reporting being done on it, when there definitely should be.

The Vinvyl Chloride has already gotten into the Ohio River up in Weirton and we're downstream of it.

The Ohio River feeds 5 million people.

WV American Water stated that as of today there have been no changes in the raw water, but a second intake is currently being installed in the Guyandotte for us to switch over to if need be.

How did it get into the Ohio River?

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Yep. VC is no good. No good at all.

Oh i see was a train derailment. Something needs to be done about that .

 

[WV-FAN]

How did it get into the Ohio River?

 

[WV-FAN]

Oh i see was a train derailment. Something needs to be done about that .

 

[MichiganHerd]

Oh i see was a train derailment. Something needs to be done about that .

Did the title of the thread give it away?

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Did the title of the thread give it away?

I didnt read it closely the first time. I was anxious to read the story.

 

[WV-FAN]

Did the title of the thread give it away?

he read SIAP and thought it stood for stupid idiot always posts and couldn't wait to get in on the action.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

he read SIAP and thought it stood for stupid idiot always posts and couldn't wait to get in on the action.

Why dont you just go root for your lousy Morgantown hole team and stop making ugly remarks to me on here.

 

[WV-FAN]

Why dont you just go root for your lousy Morgantown hole team and stop making ugly remarks to me on here.

 

[GeauxHerd]

VC is extremely challenging to remediate once it’s in the ground/groundwater. If they could have dug it up right away it would have helped but obviously with a raging fire that was basically impossible. Probably so Bio Amendment injections, groundwater monitoring wells with long term monitoring along with seep sampling at the Ohio will be warranted for quite a few years. @Jbabbington would you think that seems reasonable as well?

 

[OldielovesHerd]

This one post I am sorry I even posted too . Such critical people in response. I just wanted to know more about it and all I get is made fun of.

 

[GeauxHerd]

This one post I am sorry I even posted too . Such critical people in response. I just wanted to know more about it and all I get is made fun of.

I bet with enough cuddling, @WV-FAN would wear a Marshall shirt (and glitter)

 

[Jbabbington]

VC is extremely challenging to remediate once it’s in the ground/groundwater. If they could have dug it up right away it would have helped but obviously with a raging fire that was basically impossible. Probably so Bio Amendment injections, groundwater monitoring wells with long term monitoring along with seep sampling at the Ohio will be warranted for quite a few years. @Jbabbington would you think that seems reasonable as well?

Agreed. I'm not a chemist so correct me if I'm wrong, but it having entered the watershed and it's ability to bond with water, it's going to be one hell of a remediation process.

This is going to have some pretty big ramifications, unfortunately we won't truly know what those are for probably another decade. This could go down as one of the biggest environmental catastrophes in our history if they don't get a grip on this fast, and barely anyone is talking about it.

I believe that they have already started temp. Damming parts of the Ohio River way upstream of us to better get an understanding of the contamination.

The sad thing is it was 100% preventable in my opinion.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Oh boy, catch more 3 eyed catfish from the Ohio!

 

[Jbabbington]

Oh boy, catch more 3 eyed catfish from the Ohio!

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[GeauxHerd]

Agreed. I'm not a chemist so correct me if I'm wrong, but it having entered the watershed and it's ability to bond with water, it's going to be one hell of a remediation process.

This is going to have some pretty big ramifications, unfortunately we won't truly know what those are for probably another decade. This could go down as one of the biggest environmental catastrophes in our history if they don't get a grip on this fast, and barely anyone is talking about it.

I believe that they have already started temp. Damming parts of the Ohio River way upstream of us to better get an understanding of the contamination.

The sad thing is it was 100% preventable in my opinion.

It’s also a NAPL so it will just keep going into the water column so yes, spot on. The other bad thing is even if towns arent directly using the Ohio, they use the aquifer adjacent and VC can impact that and it has a very low risk value in the PPBs so very easy to exceed. Probably a high likelihood those municipalities will have to add air strippers to their water treatment regimen as well.

 

[WV-FAN]

as long as my spring in BFEWV isn't affected, ZFG.

 

[Jbabbington]

It’s also a NAPL so it will just keep going into the water column so yes, spot on. The other bad thing is even if towns arent directly using the Ohio, they use the aquifer adjacent and VC can impact that and it has a very low risk value in the PPBs so very easy to exceed. Probably a high likelihood those municipalities will have to add air strippers to their water treatment regimen as well.

Just read that along with VC, Isobutylene, Ethylhexyl Acrylate, and Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether were also burned off in that plume.

The Ohio is bad enough, but if this hits the Mississippi - oh boy. Get ready for a spike in cancer among the water basins in 20 years.

 

[GeauxHerd]

Just read that along with VC, Isobutylene, Ethylhexyl Acrylate, and Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether were also burned off in that plume.

The Ohio is bad enough, but if this hits the Mississippi - oh boy. Get ready for a spike in cancer among the water basins in 20 years.

It should be diluted out before that. Burning it off is the best thing they could do and move people out of the area while it was burning

as long as my spring in BFEWV isn't affected, ZFG.

You already live in BFEWV….. YOLO Periodt.

 

[Jbabbington]

It should be diluted out before that. Burning it off is the best thing they could do and move people out of the area while it was burning

You already live in BFEWV….. YOLO Periodt.

The VC or the other three?

Edit: Just realized you're talking about it reaching the Mississippi, yeah I would agree - that's a long shot.

 

[GeauxHerd]

The VC or the other three?

Edit: Just realized you're talking about it reaching the Mississippi, yeah I would agree - that's a long shot.

I have experience with VC. No so much the others, so I can’t speak fully to them

 

[Jbabbington]

I have experience with VC. No so much the others, so I can’t speak fully to them

I have none with VC, so please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Some with PFAS, but that's all.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

I've read some chatter that NS screwed the pooch with this train...

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

 

[Jbabbington]

I've read some chatter that NS screwed the pooch with this train...

It's okay, they gave each resident $5 for their trouble.. so they're square.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

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Obviously the answer is to nationalize the railroads if the centrist Dems can't handle regulating capitalism.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

It's okay, they gave each resident $5 for their trouble.. so they're square.

You have it totally wrong...residents will get $5 in the class action suit, lawyers will get millions.

 

[GeauxHerd]

PFAS is where is where the action is these days

I have none with VC, so please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Some with PFAS, but that's all.

 

[WVUSerg]

This one post I am sorry I even posted too . Such critical people in response. I just wanted to know more about it and all I get is made fun of.

If only there was a way to find things out

www.google.com

 

[OldielovesHerd]

If only there was a way to find things out

www.google.com

I did finally get some real info from others. I could not understand your sign language in writing.

 

[GeauxHerd]

Obviously the answer is to nationalize the railroads if the centrist Dems can't handle regulating capitalism.

That’s not very libertarian

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

Mayor Pete killing it.

 

[GeauxHerd]

Mayor Pete killing it.

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Mayor Pete is an empty suit

 

[herdfan06]

I didnt read it closely the first time. I was anxious to read the story.

You were anxious to read a thread with the title "train derailment" and did not realize it was going to pertain to a train derailment?

 

[extragreen]

If only there was a way to find things out

www.google.com

You're still looking for it.

 

[raleighherdfan]

We should nationalize rail. That should save us from sabotaging efforts by nefarious elements.

 

[WVUSerg]

You're still looking for it.

No I'm good old man

 

[herdfan06]

Was Gary Southern the engineer?