Sleeping with the Enemy
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We sellout out season tickets every year! 3rd highest attendance in the ACC behind Clemson and FSU. Expecting a great game against Doc!
Wrong - NC State is 5th in ACC Conf attendance
Clemson
FSU
VA Tech
Miami
N.C. State
Expecting a good game this weekend. Hope you make the trip.
Clemson
FSU
VA Tech
Miami
N.C. State
Expecting a good game this weekend. Hope you make the trip.
You are right, I was looking at the number of tickets sold vs tickets scanned at games and State is third in that sense. FSU may be dropping at this time.
Apparently the NC State fan doesn't know SamC... if he wanted real statistics he would have just asked Sam.
Couldn't be more wrong man.
Averaged 99.8% capacity last season and sellout season tickets every season.
The newer seats you see were new seat-backs brought in this year, which are an additional option for season ticket holders rather than the standard aluminum bleachers.
Dear NC State Fans: we are lulling you into a sense of over-confidence with this seating smack talk! We are saving the good stuff for Saturday night.....
I will take our stud D-lineman #91 Bee to trump your USC xfer tight end all.....night...long...
Go Herd!!!
I will take our stud D-lineman #91 Bee to trump your USC xfer tight end all.....night...long...
Go Herd!!!
Man, if this thread has taught us anything its that NCSU fans are really touchy... I guess playing third fiddle in your own TV market has made you guys sensitive.
(Again, this is sarcasm, its a joke on a message board just so you guys are on the same page.)
(Again, this is sarcasm, its a joke on a message board just so you guys are on the same page.)
To the NC State fans on here, I hope all of you folks are doing okay after Florence. I lived in Charlotte for 7 years and have fond memories of NC and still have friends down there. Hope you have a great visit when you come to Huntington and hope we beat you like a drum LOL
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Well crap. I read the thread title and thought I would see pics of a half naked NCST coed. LOL!
I appreciate the good-natured conversation, but it takes eleven players on each side not one.
Recent data would seem to indicate to me attendance smack, as inappropriate and absurd as it ever was, is made even moreso by the fact that people are smacking each other in face with gobs of bullshit cooked up by athletic departments trying to cover up the fact that live sports attendance is declining across the board, everywhere.
"You have shitty fans" can now be rhetorically parried by saying "No, we have nice houses and big TVs."
"You have shitty fans" can now be rhetorically parried by saying "No, we have nice houses and big TVs."
I wanted to, but Coach Stowers asked me not to do that anymore because his wife was getting mad at him for looking at girls online.
Coach Stowers: taking fun away from HerdNation since 2015.
Not sure about 'everywhere'.... Some schools have sellouts weekly regardless of their record or who they are playing. I.E. Nebraska, Ohio State... on other hand some schools cant fill their stadium for even the biggest of opponents i.e. Kansas, USC..
I understand Marshall having low attendance for CUSA games, but if we can't put 35K in the stands for NC St, when we are undefeated, they are undefeated, and the weather is going to be perfect, then quite frankly it's ridiculous.
The two "undefeated" teams playing tomorrow night have wins over the following programs:
Eastern Kentucky
Miami (Ohio)
James Madison
Georgia State
What do those four teams have in common? None of them have a win against an FBS program. Let's not act like Gameday should be in town for this.
And let's be honest here - people would be more interested to see us play ECU than NCSU, and the Pirates would probably bring more fans.
Eastern Kentucky
Miami (Ohio)
James Madison
Georgia State
What do those four teams have in common? None of them have a win against an FBS program. Let's not act like Gameday should be in town for this.
And let's be honest here - people would be more interested to see us play ECU than NCSU, and the Pirates would probably bring more fans.
So in other words playing a team from a P5 early in the year when neither team has lost is not a good enough reason to show up to the game. Said team would have had to have beaten Alabama or Ohio state first in order for us to give them the time of day, Got it...
Ticket sales are looking bright in our future
[QUOTE people would be more interested to see us play ECU than NCSU, and the Pirates would probably bring more fans.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... cause no one on this board ever whines about getting access to play bigger programs, especially opportunities for P5 schools to come to Huntington.. ummmm ok
Yeah... cause no one on this board ever whines about getting access to play bigger programs, especially opportunities for P5 schools to come to Huntington.. ummmm ok
sorry to inform you of this, Lil Miami and Ga State are both FBS schools. Maybe they are considered "G5" and not "P5" but they are certainly not FCS.
Sorry to inform you of this but he never said they weren’t FBS schools he said they do not have wins against FBS programs. Your lack of reading comprehension knows no bounds from board to board I see
You guys gotta go back and re-read my post I guess. My point was to call these teams "undefeated" is embellishment of the highest order, especially when we're talking about teams that have only played two games each at this point, and have done so against teams of dubious quality.
I also did not claim Miami of Ohio or Georgia State were FCS programs (though the term might seem fitting to most outside this conversation), I was just pointing out that none of the four teams Marshall and NCSU have combined to defeat has a win against a Football Bowl Subdivision program. See above reference to "dubious quality."
We get these threads all the time - more fans should come out, why doesn't everyone consider this a matter of critical importance, etc. etc. The truth is, we get home-and-homes with schools like NCSU and Purdue because they're in the shallow end of P5 and have to resort to such deals to fill their schedules. We roll out the red carpet, raise ticket prices, and thump that P5 drum from the moment the deal is signed until kickoff, but it's all done to obscure the fact that there isn't a tremendous difference between schools like NCSU and Purdue and the teams at the high end of G5.
Deep-green Marshall fans buy into the hype with both fists, casual fans see it as more interesting than Old Dominion or Charlotte or UTSEPIUAU, but to the general population there isn't anything there to make it a must-see event. We've got about 25k fans, so unless we get another 13k from visiting fans and people who don't normally go to Marshall games, we won't sell out. I'm not saying we shouldn't schedule these games or that I'm not interested in tomorrow's game, I'm just saying you should curb your expectations a little.
I also did not claim Miami of Ohio or Georgia State were FCS programs (though the term might seem fitting to most outside this conversation), I was just pointing out that none of the four teams Marshall and NCSU have combined to defeat has a win against a Football Bowl Subdivision program. See above reference to "dubious quality."
We get these threads all the time - more fans should come out, why doesn't everyone consider this a matter of critical importance, etc. etc. The truth is, we get home-and-homes with schools like NCSU and Purdue because they're in the shallow end of P5 and have to resort to such deals to fill their schedules. We roll out the red carpet, raise ticket prices, and thump that P5 drum from the moment the deal is signed until kickoff, but it's all done to obscure the fact that there isn't a tremendous difference between schools like NCSU and Purdue and the teams at the high end of G5.
Deep-green Marshall fans buy into the hype with both fists, casual fans see it as more interesting than Old Dominion or Charlotte or UTSEPIUAU, but to the general population there isn't anything there to make it a must-see event. We've got about 25k fans, so unless we get another 13k from visiting fans and people who don't normally go to Marshall games, we won't sell out. I'm not saying we shouldn't schedule these games or that I'm not interested in tomorrow's game, I'm just saying you should curb your expectations a little.
Personally, I'm one of those 'bad fans' because I pretty much stopped attending live sporting events a couple years back. Like you referenced earlier on, I have a decent house, and just re-upped my monthly DTV bill for $230.00, so I can have the luxury of watching the games on a 65" TV. If the game I'm watching isn't worthy of watching, I can switch the channel to one of a dozen other games that are playing. Plus, and this is an extra bonus that took me 27 years to develop, but I can get my trained wife to go get me another beer out of the refrigerator without missing any of the action. On days when she's pissed at me, I'm able to pause the TV and get it myself. At halftime, I can take a dump and not be concerned over whose piss I may be sitting on. It's really a pretty good deal.
Yep, and I live 13 hours away. But don’t tell Josh any of this he will tell you you’re not a fan if you don’t attend the games and you can’t have an opinion on the program either.
Ok... if that's the case then I think it's pathetic we would sell out for WVU even if there are no WVU fans there, or Michigan even if there was no Michigan fans there... the fans come out to see them hopefully beat a hated team or a storied program like Michigan, but they won't come to a game of significant importance to our season. When I use the word 'undefeated' I am not trying to embellish rather I am saying the possibility of the grand goal is still attainable at this point in the season and beating NCSt would have a huge hand in that. So for now... I think it bears significant importance.
Fair enough... then no one should even have the delusion that CUSA is going to get any better, that the Herd will ever be able grow the program, that having the much sucked-off IAF is now irrelevant because it doesn't help get recruits since we can't sell tickets, etc... All I am saying is a lot of Herd fans have these grand expectations, or at least hopes, yet we can't sell out for a game against a program that would be a huge win for the next step. If we want to stay a mediocre G5 I am good with that... or we could make moves and try to raise the bar like some of the G5 programs on the cusp of getting a bid to the next conference expansion or other goals. I for one would rather move forward to emulating a Boise or a UCF rather than continuing to head towards the same pathetic demise as an ECU.
Difference being, and this is a huge difference. Program like WVU, who has a few hundred thousand fans who are located closer to Huntington than Morgantown, would sell out the Joan even if ZERO herd fans showed up. Likewise, Michigan, even though they're situated 368 miles away, would do the same, particularly once they find out ticket prices at the Big House are $140.00/each, as compared to a can of chicken noodle soup at the Joan.
You missed what I said- the Joan would sellout for those schools even if none of those school's fans came to the game. In other words Marshall fans would actually show up.
One of the hardest parts of being a Marshall fan (post-1992 I'll say) is when you first come into it, you think the sky's the limit and anything is possible - maybe someday we could be in P5, who knows, etc. Then you go to nearly every home game for two decades.
You see games like MU vs. Tulsa 2008 when there's barely 8,000 people in the stadium on a 70F sunny day in November, and you're sitting in the chairbacks because why TF not, and they come over the PA and announce the attendance: 21,571.
That's when it hits you - "most people don't care about this as much as I do, and most of my assumptions about the reality of our fanbase are based on bullshhh numbers." The next stage is denial, but then comes acceptance, and that's when you realize that it doesn't matter if Marshall winds up in the SEC, or that we don't sell out our over-expanded stadium. The games are going to happen no matter what, Marshall's going to win some of them, lose some others, have a few surprises, have a few disappointments, and you're going to have a good time at all of it so long as you keep your mind in the right place.
You see games like MU vs. Tulsa 2008 when there's barely 8,000 people in the stadium on a 70F sunny day in November, and you're sitting in the chairbacks because why TF not, and they come over the PA and announce the attendance: 21,571.
That's when it hits you - "most people don't care about this as much as I do, and most of my assumptions about the reality of our fanbase are based on bullshhh numbers." The next stage is denial, but then comes acceptance, and that's when you realize that it doesn't matter if Marshall winds up in the SEC, or that we don't sell out our over-expanded stadium. The games are going to happen no matter what, Marshall's going to win some of them, lose some others, have a few surprises, have a few disappointments, and you're going to have a good time at all of it so long as you keep your mind in the right place.
I agree with this 100%, unfortunately a lot do not, especially on this board.
Licious, you do know that Gameday was at James Madison one Saturday last season, don't you? In fact, that may not have been their first visit to JMU.
Heck, if Mike Hamrick pulled a Rip Van Winkle and slept for a hundred years, he probably wouldn't even dare dream that GD would ever come to MU!!!
As a Herd grad/fan (played High school basketball against Mike Hamrick) AND a Raleigh-based NC State fan I can appreciate the post below. I used to come back to games when guys like Chad Pennington, and Randy Moss played there. But that was back when the Herd was a HUGE fish in a smaller pond. Being a small fish in huge pond is simply not as compelling. I was one of the few who thought that abandoning that level of competition was unwise. And, for a different reason, I objected to leaving the MAC. The MAC had more natural adversaries. But what is done is done.
"One of the hardest parts of being a Marshall fan (post-1992 I'll say) is when you first come into it, you think the sky's the limit and anything is possible - maybe someday we could be in P5, who knows, etc. Then you go to nearly every home game for two decades.
You see games like MU vs. Tulsa 2008 when there's barely 8,000 people in the stadium on a 70F sunny day in November, and you're sitting in the chairbacks because why TF not, and they come over the PA and announce the attendance: 21,571.
That's when it hits you - "most people don't care about this as much as I do, and most of my assumptions about the reality of our fanbase are based on bullshhh numbers." The next stage is denial, but then comes acceptance, and that's when you realize that it doesn't matter if Marshall winds up in the SEC, or that we don't sell out our over-expanded stadium. The games are going to happen no matter what, Marshall's going to win some of them, lose some others, have a few surprises, have a few disappointments, and you're going to have a good time at all of it so long as you keep your mind in the right place."
"One of the hardest parts of being a Marshall fan (post-1992 I'll say) is when you first come into it, you think the sky's the limit and anything is possible - maybe someday we could be in P5, who knows, etc. Then you go to nearly every home game for two decades.
You see games like MU vs. Tulsa 2008 when there's barely 8,000 people in the stadium on a 70F sunny day in November, and you're sitting in the chairbacks because why TF not, and they come over the PA and announce the attendance: 21,571.
That's when it hits you - "most people don't care about this as much as I do, and most of my assumptions about the reality of our fanbase are based on bullshhh numbers." The next stage is denial, but then comes acceptance, and that's when you realize that it doesn't matter if Marshall winds up in the SEC, or that we don't sell out our over-expanded stadium. The games are going to happen no matter what, Marshall's going to win some of them, lose some others, have a few surprises, have a few disappointments, and you're going to have a good time at all of it so long as you keep your mind in the right place."
People want excitement and people want a winner.
Being perfectly honest here. Marshall has not done a lot of that since the early to mid 2000's. Not at high level. One conference championship? Throw in no natural rivalries and a boring program(it is right now, sorry) and you are losing entertainment dollars.
Thanks for posting this Y.A.G- I took my son and father to the game tonight. I'm an NC State alum living in Raleigh & my dad is a Marshall alum who lives in northeastern WV. We stayed at the hotel that Marshall uses, & had so many great interactions with the team, coaches and fans.
I have to say that I really enjoyed meeting so many great people on this trip. You have such a passionate fanbase. NC State has great, in stadium fan support, as well as on social media. But because we have several ACC schools located in one small geographic area, we don't see the whole town wearing NC State colors on a Saturday like I did in Huntington & Barboursville this weekend.
You all have a lot to be proud of in this team, your coach, your city and your fans. Hopefully I'll have a chance to come back.
I have to say that I really enjoyed meeting so many great people on this trip. You have such a passionate fanbase. NC State has great, in stadium fan support, as well as on social media. But because we have several ACC schools located in one small geographic area, we don't see the whole town wearing NC State colors on a Saturday like I did in Huntington & Barboursville this weekend.
You all have a lot to be proud of in this team, your coach, your city and your fans. Hopefully I'll have a chance to come back.
