Smoke, meet Gun
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I can't believe she is not going to jail. Good Lord, they were sending this kind of stuff over regular email? Wasn't like she was asking where the paper clips are at.
She should be busting rocks at Leavenworth.
hdr22@clintonemail.com
Damn, not even some code name or fake name or anything.
Then telling her kid about the attack before it was public? Hello.
She should be busting rocks at Leavenworth.
hdr22@clintonemail.com
Damn, not even some code name or fake name or anything.
Then telling her kid about the attack before it was public? Hello.
I don't know how she couldn't be indicted after this. She's instructing her people to ignore and change classified identifications, that could be a violation of espionage laws. Perjury isn't out of the question at this point either.
There are rules for us regular folks. Then there are rules for politicians. They're definitely different because we have a ruling class. Then, there is even another set of rules for the Clinton's.
In her mind none of this was shady because she's a Clinton and she can do whatever she wants when she wants. I don't think she was sabotaging our country or selling secrets to the Chinese, I just think she doesn't give an F about any security rules or anything like that because she knows she can do whatever she wants.
In her mind none of this was shady because she's a Clinton and she can do whatever she wants when she wants. I don't think she was sabotaging our country or selling secrets to the Chinese, I just think she doesn't give an F about any security rules or anything like that because she knows she can do whatever she wants.
I have worked for the govt. If joe schmoe off the street had done this, they would have been (1) fired, and (2) prosecuted. At the very least, it would have been brought to a grand jury. I personally can think of 2-3 cases where people have been prosecuted for less.
There is an email where Clinton is surprised that one of her staffers is using personal email. HELLO HYPOCRISY!!!
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ary-surprised-by-staffer-using-personal-email
Absolutely no way Obama let's that happen. He's tacitly supporting this.
I was wondering if anyone saw that.
You're right, his DOJ will let this slide. I just hope the FBI's findings and recommendations will be enough for the court of public opinion to finally see her for who she is. She'll still have blind followers but hopefully her numbers will dwindle enough to keep her out of the WH.
Leavenworth is a male only prison.
Well, she probably pees standing up.
If it wasn't classified why did it have classification headings on it and why was it being sent over secure means? The fax or whatever it was hasn't been disclosed.
Even Ray Charles can see this:
From: H Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:21 AM To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov' Subject:
Re If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.
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Damn, that is from the Secretary of State. A cabinet level position. This is criminal.
AND, borders or espionage or treason.
From: H Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:21 AM To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov' Subject:
Re If they can't, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.
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Damn, that is from the Secretary of State. A cabinet level position. This is criminal.
AND, borders or espionage or treason.
unreal that Obama will use the DOJ to protect the democratic party over the interest of the country.
I take identifying headings to mean classification markings. Those are used to determine who can see document how long it's classified etc
So, as of this moment, the big todo over this requires a huge assumption about an unknown topic. That's what I thought......treason.......criminal......espionage.
Don't be purposely dense. The email makes it perfectly clear that it was a secured communication. What level of security - secret, top-secret, etc.- doesn't really matter except as to the severity of the repercussions.
The fact remains, she directed her staff to remove the designation without authority to do so - and that doesn't even take into account the fact that all of these communications were taking place over her private email.
It is hard to take anything else you post seriously when you engage in silliness like this.
It doesn't make clear what you think it does. A secured communication channel can have unclassified information on it. And yes, it does matter what security level. If it was unclassified, your assumptions are entirely unfounded, like most of your drivel.
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So you assume sending something over secure channels isn't classified?n and you completely ignore the 1000+ classified emails that have been found on her server?
I'm assuming nothing as far as I know. I stated that unclassified information is sometimes transmitted over secure systems and that your assumptions are just that. As far as I know, zero emails have been shown to contain classified information when they were sent or received by Clinton.
the no emails were classified at the time of being sent or received doesn't matter. Classified material is classified at the time of creation not when some bureaucrat puts a classified stamp on it
Then why are they re-classifying the emails as sensitive when they were not at the time of being sent and received?
It was a talking points memo, so most likely it was classified as Secret. The email exchange made it perfectly clear that the original document could only be sent via secure fax, meaning it contained classified information. There would be no reason for that email exchange to happen if the document was unclassified.
Also, the count of emails containing classified information is now over 1300.
Also, the count of emails containing classified information is now over 1300.
"Most likely" doesnt matter. They were having difficulty sending it on the secure fax, doesn't mean it was classified. Of the 1300 emails you're talking about, none were sent or received as classified information at the time.
Bullshit. They were all classified at the time, including the two TS level documents. And there would be no reason to send something via secure fax if it wasn't classified. I said "most likely" because it was AT LEAST Secret level. You simply DO NOT USE a secure fax machine for unclass correspondence, EVER. You're being purposely stubborn.
"This sort of classification upgrade occasionally happens when new information comes into play that affects the sensitivity of the information. Because the information was classified after the emails were sent, no one mishandled this information at the time by sending it over Clinton’s private server."
_____Politifact
_____Politifact
"This is not to say Clinton’s email setup was allowed or appropriate -- for example, it skirted open records laws and presents challenges to archivists. And subsequent investigations may yield surprises or other unexpected evidence. But because of the way classification works and because of the incomplete record of her emails, we continue to reserve judgment."
____Politifact
____Politifact
Eg politifact is a joke. Them and Glen Kessler aren't even remotely close to fact checkers. They are agenda pushers plain and simple. They try to fact check opinions and change known facts into false statements i.e. Fiorina working her way up from a secretary to ceo
Greed, stick to cabinet making and not govt emails.
Clinton also had security clearances and non disclosure agreements. She violated nearly every rule and in some cases laws. Anybody who has ever been around it knows that.
Hell, they are using her as example of what not to do with privates in the military. A f'ing private.
Clinton also had security clearances and non disclosure agreements. She violated nearly every rule and in some cases laws. Anybody who has ever been around it knows that.
Hell, they are using her as example of what not to do with privates in the military. A f'ing private.
That's what I thought. Anyone that brings facts into the argument is a false source. As a curiosity, where are you getting YOUR information.
So politifact and/or Glen Kessler didn't say fiorina lied about being a secretary before becoming ceo. I get my info from many sources ranging from politico fox nbc cbs the hill etc
I'm talking about your information on the email controversy, not your overall sources.
And as far as I can tell, you're talking about Factcheck, and no, they didn't say she lied about being a secretary, but that she misrepresented her "secretary to ceo" situation.
