Soccer Complex Getting New Turf?

[bbneutralfan]

So I go to Kroger’s at 26th Street and 5th Avenue - across from the soccer complex, and I see the current turf is being removed and bags of new turf ready to be installed. I’m surprised (I guess) but don’t know why. I guess the field needed new turf but in such a short time since it opened. Perhaps Marshall’s NCAA appearance provided the funding. Anyone else know anything?

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

It was looking worn. Seams were starting to show. I know the turf used is approved by FIFA. Maybe it doesn’t last as long due to the longer blades of turf. Someone better informed may be able to shed some light.

 

[herdfan429]

We don’t need the money for baseball now so might as well invest in something useful

 

[WV_Celt]

We don’t need the money for baseball now so might as well invest in something useful

Ouch. I can't imagine how pissed off the people that donated money for BASEBALL would be to have it used for soccer.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Ouch. I can't imagine how pissed off the people that donated money for BASEBALL would be to have it used for soccer.

Donated funds to Herd Rises will be used for those purposes. Would be very bad if those funds were appropriated for other uses. Wouldn’t end well.

 

[bbneutralfan]

Thank you twolf for the info. I’m not too much of a soccer fan and had not been inside the complex since it opened. Nevertheless I was surprised that the turf already needed to be replaced. And if it is found out that donations for baseball went to soccer I’m sure some people will be upset.

 

[Pioneer_PA]

They played seven seasons on the turf. That’s about the typical shelf life. Football turf is replaced in similar intervals.

First turf at football stadium was 91-97.
Second turf was 98-04.
Third turf was 05-13 (and looked bad toward the end)
Current turf was put down in 2014, one year after the soccer turf was placed.

This is routine maintenance of getting it replaced at first sign of aging. I suspect football will have new turf in 21 or 22.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

They played seven seasons on the turf. That’s about the typical shelf life. Football turf is replaced in similar intervals.

First turf at football stadium was 91-97.
Second turf was 98-04.
Third turf was 05-13 (and looked bad toward the end)
Current turf was put down in 2014, one year after the soccer turf was placed.

This is routine maintenance of getting it replaced at first sign of aging. I suspect football will have new turf in 21 or 22.

New coach AND new turf in the Joan in 22. How exciting would that be?

 

[19MU88]

Donated funds to Herd Rises will be used for those purposes. Would be very bad if those funds were appropriated for other uses. Wouldn’t end well.

I don't see a problem. 1) there are a small number of big donors as usual so they just need to work with them. 2) the majority of our fan base didn't and won't give squat so we don't have to worry about offending them 3) Herd Rises was always about more than just baseball. So, they should check with any and all that specifically earmarked their donation for baseball and see if they can redirect funds or need to refund if cancelled. I am fine either way as I didn't specify where my funds were directed although I strongly considered earmarking for basketball.

I am fine with a base ball field and the game, but there is no way we will generate sufficient return on our investment. Investing in basketball would be a much better return.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Thank you twolf for the info. I’m not too much of a soccer fan and had not been inside the complex since it opened. Nevertheless I was surprised that the turf already needed to be replaced. And if it is found out that donations for baseball went to soccer I’m sure some people will be upset.

I highly doubt funds for Herd Rises are going towards other facilities/uses. As said, it would be a dumb move.
The fact that turf was being replaced as is, says to me the money was given/raised a while ago.

 

[Herdmeister]

I highly doubt funds for Herd Rises are going towards other facilities/uses. As said, it would be a dumb move.
The fact that turf was being replaced as is, says to me the money was given/raised a while ago.

Agree

 

[Herdmeister]

New coach AND new turf in the Joan in 22. How exciting would that be?

how about a new AD too!

 

[Tonycried2]

how about a new AD too!

I like and support Mike, I know he made a faux pas when he was quoted as essentially saying that if you don't donate to the Big Green your opinions don't matter but he attempted to clarify that mistake. However , we'll all be watching to see what he does with Doc after the 2020 season if we don't really accomplish much on the gridiron this year! I hope we win them all and that's an easy call but that wouldn't be the way I'd bet! Tough decisions on the horizon, IMHO.

 

[bbneutralfan]

Tonycried2 MH does not have a good record of coaching hires. Just ask people at previous stops in his career at UNLV and East Carolina. They are not very thoughtful when asked about Mike. We can only hope that MH’s short list has some young and upcoming candidates with fire and desire to achieve within them and not a holdover from the current staff here at Marshall.

 

[Tonycried2]

Tonycried2 MH does not have a good record of coaching hires. Just ask people at previous stops in his career at UNLV and East Carolina. They are not very thoughtful when asked about Mike. We can only hope that MH’s short list has some young and upcoming candidates with fire and desire to achieve within them and not a holdover from the current staff here at Marshall.

I know he had his troubles in the desert but that Vegas job has been tough for all AD's to navigate.They want to win in hoops at the clip the Shark won at but without the shenanigans but that can't be done. Football out there has been one disaster after another. John Robinson hovered around .500 after he retired from USC but UNLV football has for the most part been bad for 50 years. I have not given up on Doc but recognize this season has to be considered a "shit or get off the pot" year for him! If we go 7-5 and Mike keeps him, I'll give up on Mike as well but right now I'm hoping for the best!

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

I like and support Mike, I know he made a faux pas when he was quoted as essentially saying that if you don't donate to the Big Green your opinions don't matter but he attempted to clarify that mistake. However , we'll all be watching to see what he does with Doc after the 2020 season if we don't really accomplish much on the gridiron this year! I hope we win them all and that's an easy call but that wouldn't be the way I'd bet! Tough decisions on the horizon, IMHO.

Is he wrong? Plenty of big movers and shakers determine how a program acts. Its on every level...the big boosters at Bama have Nick Saban over for yacht races. Its no different on the G5 level.
Bwahaha people acting all offended that (if it even WAS Hamrick) a tweet revealing what everyone constantly posts on here but selectively chooses to accept when they want to complain, that college sports is about NOTHING ELSE except money.

Even if it was a momentary lapse of insanity that Hamrick actually DID tweet that, its become evident in whats going on that the NCAA is worried about the mass amounts of money they're standing to lose if they don't play this season.
Thats nothing for them, they exploit the athletes enough as it is, so exposing them to a potentially fatal virus is par for the course.
Hamrick will do what every G5 AD and any FBS AD would do...and follow...at least I think he will.

So, if you don't donate, why should you matter? Honest question...its like those idiots who don't fill out the census then complain about lack of funding for programs or for the state as a whole.
Same with morons who don't vote.
It has been expressed how affordable it is, Hamrick's not difficult to reach, and the BG board are all listed.

How are you going to be able to measure success in this season anyway? Considering the limitations the P5 has been facing, its 100x worse for the G5. We don't know how badly this has affected MU's AD...and MU having limitations and already a lack of resources, we really can't be sure what sort of measurement to use.
Oh wait...a Conference title...yeah, I'll supply you with what the board will say,
"Well, if COVID hadn't hit and weakened everyone else, MU would sooooo have lost like every game!!"

I will say this, for those wanting optimism.
MU has always acted very conservative in terms of funding and spending. Its probably a shame that MU doesn't paint its goal posts every week, but at least Hamrick isn't wrecklessly spending whatever money he gets.

 

[Tonycried2]

Is he wrong? Plenty of big movers and shakers determine how a program acts. Its on every level...the big boosters at Bama have Nick Saban over for yacht races. Its no different on the G5 level.
Bwahaha people acting all offended that (if it even WAS Hamrick) a tweet revealing what everyone constantly posts on here but selectively chooses to accept when they want to complain, that college sports is about NOTHING ELSE except money.

Even if it was a momentary lapse of insanity that Hamrick actually DID tweet that, its become evident in whats going on that the NCAA is worried about the mass amounts of money they're standing to lose if they don't play this season.
Thats nothing for them, they exploit the athletes enough as it is, so exposing them to a potentially fatal virus is par for the course.
Hamrick will do what every G5 AD and any FBS AD would do...and follow...at least I think he will.

So, if you don't donate, why should you matter? Honest question...its like those idiots who don't fill out the census then complain about lack of funding for programs or for the state as a whole.
Same with morons who don't vote.
It has been expressed how affordable it is, Hamrick's not difficult to reach, and the BG board are all listed.

How are you going to be able to measure success in this season anyway? Considering the limitations the P5 has been facing, its 100x worse for the G5. We don't know how badly this has affected MU's AD...and MU having limitations and already a lack of resources, we really can't be sure what sort of measurement to use.
Oh wait...a Conference title...yeah, I'll supply you with what the board will say,
"Well, if COVID hadn't hit and weakened everyone else, MU would sooooo have lost like every game!!"

I will say this, for those wanting optimism.
MU has always acted very conservative in terms of funding and spending. Its probably a shame that MU doesn't paint its goal posts every week, but at least Hamrick isn't wrecklessly spending whatever money he gets.

Yes, it is going to be a bit nebulous on exactly how we measure football success in 2020. I think it's fair to say we have to at least start with being above .500 for the season, which I think is no lock given the OOC slate. We could lose all those games, ECU improved as the season went on last year and they have a legit QB, I've seen excellent MU teams go to Athens and lay an egg, both BSU and Pitt will be bottom top 25 teams when they visit the Joan.

 

[2.0]

Thank you twolf for the info. I’m not too much of a soccer fan and had not been inside the complex since it opened. Nevertheless I was surprised that the turf already needed to be replaced. And if it is found out that donations for baseball went to soccer I’m sure some people will be upset.

If Marshall doesnt have enough money to cover the cost of a new field in 2020, we shouldnt be on this level.

 

[Pioneer_PA]

Chuck McGill lays out exactly what happened here: turns out, the turf was failing under warranty, so AstroTurf is replacing it for free.

https://herdzone.com/news/2020/5/26...t-provides-marshall-soccer-with-new-turf.aspx

 

[herdalicious]

Herd Rises is not a fundraiser for the baseball stadium - its a broad fundraising effort for the university as a whole, using a large donation from Chris Cline as a starting "chunk" to encourage further donation.

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

Herd Rises is not a fundraiser for the baseball stadium - its a broad fundraising effort for the university as a whole, using a large donation from Chris Cline as a starting "chunk" to encourage further donation.

Marshall Rises is for the university as a whole: https://www.marshall.edu/ucomm/2019...ublic-phase-of-historic-150-million-campaign/

Herd Rises is for a new baseball stadium, a reno of Gullickson and a statue of Hal Greer:
https://flipbooks.bulldogcdn.com/marshall-foundation/herd-rising/?page=1

 

[cottrell75]

Soccer turf isn’t costing anyone a dime. https://herdzone.com/news/2020/5/26...t-provides-marshall-soccer-with-new-turf.aspx

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Marshall Rises is for the university as a whole: https://www.marshall.edu/ucomm/2019...ublic-phase-of-historic-150-million-campaign/

Herd Rises is for a new baseball stadium, a reno of Gullickson and a statue of Hal Greer:
https://flipbooks.bulldogcdn.com/marshall-foundation/herd-rising/?page=1

Thanks for posting this. The university really is a shit show on communications. They need to make this known to the masses. Not just tweets and emails to a few.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

….but....but......but: Twolf - whatever would we do if we weren't allowed to speculate about the evils that are the MU AD, and Doc, and baseball getting screwed (again)? This place would dry up like GrandMa's vagina..... Go HERD!!!!

 

[GreenDuke]

….but....but......but: Twolf - whatever would we do if we weren't allowed to speculate about the evils that are the MU AD, and Doc, and baseball getting screwed (again)? This place would dry up like GrandMa's vagina..... Go HERD!!!!

How are you doing, health wise.