The Bible of preseason college basketball magazines is giving the Herd some love. Has MU ranked top 25(25th), winning CUSA and Elmore on the cover. Great stuff.
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I have been buying S&S since 1958. As a sports writer in the 70's, we always had a copy of it on the shelf for reference.
That is a quality endorsement of the program... Street and Smith is a fine publication.
I hope the AD picks up on this and includes it on any preseason marketing lit., posters, tix order forms, this is gold for driving tix sales.
That MU would be ranked high in CUSA is not surprising. First is great. Being 25th nationally, WOW.
BTW, all of these mags print a different cover for every town.
BTW, all of these mags print a different cover for every town.
Athlon does a lot of regional marketing as well..
I think winning the game NCAA was huge because our draw in CUSA was not as hard as they come to say the least... but getting a win over a much higher seed, and considering the direction of the program, I am not at all surprised at the recognition.
I think winning the game NCAA was huge because our draw in CUSA was not as hard as they come to say the least... but getting a win over a much higher seed, and considering the direction of the program, I am not at all surprised at the recognition.
That is the one. Look in the upper right corner. It is the Pennsylvania edition. Usually a Spamie makes the cover.
The Kentucky-Tennessee edition has Bearden from WKU in that spot. The eastern Big 10 edition has Jackson from Ohio State.
That is great news. Interestingly, however, if you merely Google preseason basketball polls or rankings, we are nowhere to be found as a top 25 team. Try it and see. If you find us please tell me which poll. Kind of discouraging to be picked by Street and Smith and left out elsewhere.
Preseason mags and other media always go a little off the usual path to bring eyeballs and/or ears their way.
That said this team will have their chances to get in the general convo of weekly rankings.
That said this team will have their chances to get in the general convo of weekly rankings.
Don't believe we've ever been in a pre-season Top 25, even back with Mike D, Russell Lee, Randy Noll & Co. (it was Top 20 back then) Should have been with an under performing team under Stewart Way, that did not achieve greatness until Tacy took over.
If memory serves me right in that 1971-72 season, we beat an 18th-ranked Ohio University here, then had that 110-107, 2 OT win over highly-ranked St. Johns in our MMI Tournament. That vaulted us in, then we quickly went to 8th after playing No. 2 Marquette (Sports Illustrated's No 1 team) to a two-point (stolen) loss in Milwaukee. Finished the season ranked 12th.
Seems like we were briefly ranked the next year. None of Huck's teams were ever in the polls.
Someone please refresh me if I'm wrong.
If memory serves me right in that 1971-72 season, we beat an 18th-ranked Ohio University here, then had that 110-107, 2 OT win over highly-ranked St. Johns in our MMI Tournament. That vaulted us in, then we quickly went to 8th after playing No. 2 Marquette (Sports Illustrated's No 1 team) to a two-point (stolen) loss in Milwaukee. Finished the season ranked 12th.
Seems like we were briefly ranked the next year. None of Huck's teams were ever in the polls.
Someone please refresh me if I'm wrong.
I’m trying to find a copy of the S&S issue that herd2belive saw because Marshall is nowhere to be mentioned in any other pre-season poll - not even honorable mention. Sadly I must say.
here you go
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/marshall/1972-schedule.html
Ohio was briefly in the AP poll for one week. They had beaten Ohio State and Indiana but they lost after that 5 in a row. They were noyt ranked when we played them StJohns and Marquette were both ranked
It seems that we were ranked around #25 for maybe one week during the 83 season in the UPI or now the Coaches poll
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That loss in Milwaukee vs Marquette was a sham. I was there that night. We were definitely robbed. We beat Jim Chones and his Marquette teammates on the floor. I remember the next morning a Milwaukee columnist wrote, "the best team didn't win the Milwaukee Classic last night"
I was in Milwaukee too, Herdmeister, along with Henry Hammond and the late Wayne Windle. The lead in that Sentinel story said: "That roar you heard emminating from the Milwaukee Arena last night was the sound of a 84-game home court winning streak being stretched to the very breaking point. The Warriors won as usual, but the shouldn't have as they were outhustled by a quicker, better Marshall team."
I'm thinking that game was in Athens. I know somewhere around then we played in Athens and I was 4 rows from the top of the Convo. I could have put shingles
TH - if my failing memory isn’t mistaken, the MMI championship win over the Redmen (Not PC!)
was a triple OT affair! Crowd was going nuts - loudest I can recall in MFH...
Yes, the crowd was going nuts in the St. John's game -- literally sent chills up and down your spine. I thought we were going to blow the roof off that place and it was going to land on top of The Choo-Choo, plumb across 5th Avenue! Opposing players literally showed fear in their faces from the crowd noise that year.
The first OU game was here and we won by about 8 or 9 points and they put the word out that they were going to kick our ass up in Athens. Had a big thug named Denny Roush and a good guard named Todd something.
Well, we took about 5,000 people up there and at least 4,000 of us were not feeling any pain (I recall that there were 30-some chartered busses). Took over their arena and town, and had a 25 point lead when Tacy pulled the starters. We put Willie Wilcox in and our fans went crazy. Some Bobcat fan looked over at me and asked, "GD, is he a star too?"
I recall that we came down on a fast break and passed three times behind one another's backs for the lay-in!
The first OU game was here and we won by about 8 or 9 points and they put the word out that they were going to kick our ass up in Athens. Had a big thug named Denny Roush and a good guard named Todd something.
Well, we took about 5,000 people up there and at least 4,000 of us were not feeling any pain (I recall that there were 30-some chartered busses). Took over their arena and town, and had a 25 point lead when Tacy pulled the starters. We put Willie Wilcox in and our fans went crazy. Some Bobcat fan looked over at me and asked, "GD, is he a star too?"
I recall that we came down on a fast break and passed three times behind one another's backs for the lay-in!
Tim Hensley, I, too, was fortunate to have seen both games. St. Johns came into MFH with a great team, believe they were ranked at that time. They had a legit forward, 6'7" or a little bigger, Mel Daniels who was smooth and talented and was on several AA lists. But the Herd got hot, particular Randy Noll who was unconscious from the outside, especially from the corners. Both teams went over the century mark, IIRC, and there was no 3 point shot then.
Then, at OU, I was among many MU students way up in the "nosebleed" section of the Convo. One advantage was that you see the development, progression and completion of the Herd fast break at its FINEST, led by Mike D'Antoni. Ty Collins and an even quicker Bill James consistently beat the Bobcats D down the floor for easy layups!! One of the Huntington papers had a page wide photo of the Herd fast break unfolding that night in the Convo.
Great Memories!!!!
I was a sports writer then working for the Wheeling Intelligencer. I was in the upstairs box for the St. John's game on that Satutrday night and the Maine head coach was there beside me, The Black Bears were undefeated at the time and were to play us 2 nights later. At one point during the game, the coach said to me, "I think we have picked the wrong team to try and extend our streak". That he did.
On Monday night, the score was 24-1 when Maine scored its first field goal. There was one instance that they took the ball out under our basket 8 straight times before getting it over mid court.
On Monday night, the score was 24-1 when Maine scored its first field goal. There was one instance that they took the ball out under our basket 8 straight times before getting it over mid court.
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